Predestination is misunderstood...
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Indeed, and even if for that reason, in answer his prayer, "help me with my unbelief". That is, the man offered a mustard seed, acknowledging how little it was, and Jesus watered it. Certainly, it then grew!
Even so, I posit that the man did not walk away thinking he had been made perfect in faith already, but that, in faith he would continue in the process of growing into the image of Christ.
Even so, I posit that the man did not walk away thinking he had been made perfect in faith already, but that, in faith he would continue in the process of growing into the image of Christ.
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Yes its normally the case that everyone is wrong and there right around here.
The word of God is not wrong, concerning water baptism,
Believe (receive) (be saved by faith have your free gift of faith refined).
be baptised in Jesus Christ name (in water) ( with the Holy spirit )
Be saved (receive salvation) soon after
This is not blasphemous.
You don't like it becauae you believe you receive Salvation on the moment of belief, correct.
No through scripture salvation comes after being saved by faith has been refined.
The word of God is not wrong, concerning water baptism,
Believe (receive) (be saved by faith have your free gift of faith refined).
be baptised in Jesus Christ name (in water) ( with the Holy spirit )
Be saved (receive salvation) soon after
This is not blasphemous.
You don't like it becauae you believe you receive Salvation on the moment of belief, correct.
No through scripture salvation comes after being saved by faith has been refined.
John 1: 12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: 13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
John 3:
16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
36 He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”
John 4:
10 Jesus answered and said to her, “If you knew the gift of God, and who it is who says to you, ‘Give Me a drink,’ you would have asked Him, and He would have given you living water.”
11 The woman said to Him, “Sir, You have nothing to draw with, and the well is deep. Where then do You get that living water? 12 Are You greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well, and drank from it himself, as well as his sons and his livestock?”
13 Jesus answered and said to her, “Whoever drinks of this water will thirst again, 14 but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst. But the water that I shall give him will become in him a fountain of water springing up into everlasting life.”
John 5:
24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life
John 6:
35 And Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst.
40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”
47 Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life. 48 I am the bread of life. 49 Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and are dead. 50 This is the bread which comes down from heaven, that one may eat of it and not die. 51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world.”
John 7
37 On the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, “If anyone thirsts, let him come to Me and drink. 38 He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.”
Please show me where we are told to be baptized in any of these passage where Jesus told us how to be saved.. Just one time
John 3:
16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
36 He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”
John 4:
10 Jesus answered and said to her, “If you knew the gift of God, and who it is who says to you, ‘Give Me a drink,’ you would have asked Him, and He would have given you living water.”
11 The woman said to Him, “Sir, You have nothing to draw with, and the well is deep. Where then do You get that living water? 12 Are You greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well, and drank from it himself, as well as his sons and his livestock?”
13 Jesus answered and said to her, “Whoever drinks of this water will thirst again, 14 but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst. But the water that I shall give him will become in him a fountain of water springing up into everlasting life.”
John 5:
24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life
John 6:
35 And Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst.
40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”
47 Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life. 48 I am the bread of life. 49 Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and are dead. 50 This is the bread which comes down from heaven, that one may eat of it and not die. 51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world.”
John 7
37 On the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, “If anyone thirsts, let him come to Me and drink. 38 He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.”
Please show me where we are told to be baptized in any of these passage where Jesus told us how to be saved.. Just one time
Yes, the elect's salvation was accomplished by Christ's death resurrection. But it needs to be applied in space in time -- which by the way will because God has so decreed it.
Isa 48:3
3 I foretold the former things long ago,
my mouth announced them and I made them known;
then suddenly I acted, and they came to pass.
NIV
This passage is one the reasons I'm a supralapsarian.
Isa 48:3
3 I foretold the former things long ago,
my mouth announced them and I made them known;
then suddenly I acted, and they came to pass.
NIV
This passage is one the reasons I'm a supralapsarian.
Yes, the elect's salvation was accomplished by Christ's death resurrection. But it needs to be applied in space in time -- which by the way will because God has so decreed it.
Isa 48:3
3 I foretold the former things long ago,
my mouth announced them and I made them known;
then suddenly I acted, and they came to pass.
NIV
This passage is one the reasons I'm a supralapsarian.
Isa 48:3
3 I foretold the former things long ago,
my mouth announced them and I made them known;
then suddenly I acted, and they came to pass.
NIV
This passage is one the reasons I'm a supralapsarian.
no hebrews 6 starts of by saying the jews where going back to useless rituals.
The hebrews, (saved people of God not Jews) where preaching against the Jews.
The hebrews where discussing how they could bring them to true repentance.
Hebrews 6 is pacifically for the Jews.
As Christians do not practice useless rituals, like animal sacrifice.
The hebrews, (saved people of God not Jews) where preaching against the Jews.
The hebrews where discussing how they could bring them to true repentance.
Hebrews 6 is pacifically for the Jews.
As Christians do not practice useless rituals, like animal sacrifice.
How so? Just because you get an unanswered prayer doesn't diminish the will to still want what you did not get. I would love to win a million dollars. God will most likely never let that happen. But I "still" want a million dollars. My will to have a million dollars has never changed nor diminished.
correct those who receive him are saved by faith, but then they must be saved by salvation by being resurrected in Christ.
If you don't get resurrected in Christ before you die, then you can be resurrected in Christ after you die.
But seeing as the word is for the living, I would say it's best to tell people what the bible says.
Which is be resurrected in Christ. 😊
Before you die.
You may as well be telling people not to get baptised with what you've said.
If you don't get resurrected in Christ before you die, then you can be resurrected in Christ after you die.
But seeing as the word is for the living, I would say it's best to tell people what the bible says.
Which is be resurrected in Christ. 😊
Before you die.
You may as well be telling people not to get baptised with what you've said.
I was ressurected by Christ the day I was saved. As for all of the people who were in the passages I posted.
Your not ressurected when your immersed in water.. Thats nonsense. You might as well tell everything they must earn salvation by doing their works.. God gave many commands, we better obey all of them, not just one of them,.
Your not ressurected when your immersed in water.. Thats nonsense. You might as well tell everything they must earn salvation by doing their works.. God gave many commands, we better obey all of them, not just one of them,.