The 10 Commandments and the Law of Moses

[FollowerofShiloh]

One set is a moral law and the others are how to maintain relationship to God.

 

[Aaron56]

That actually works too: "But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ."

 

[Nehemiah6]

where in scripture is it written the sabbath day changed?

Paul made it quite clear that the Sabbath was a shadow. the reality is Christ who gives us perfect rest. And yes the Lord's Day is the Christian Sabbath. The apostolic churches met on the first day of the week to worship (and rest).

 

[jamessb]

Not only for the house of Israrel;
Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, evenunto the end of the world. Amen.

"Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you" does not mean the Old Covenant. Jesus died to institute a new covenant, making the old covenant obsolete.

 

[jamessb]

SOME DISPENSATIONAL QUESTIONS


We might ask many questions of men of God who have apparently made little or no
effort to give any Scriptural explanations as to the seeming contradictions and discrepancies in
the Bible. In the interpretations and applications of the New testament Scriptures by
denominational church-leaders, the Bible is left with many seeming contradictions and
discrepancies.
We trust these questions will provoke our readers to something more than a passing
thought.


1. Why did Christ instruct His apostles in Matthew 16:20, not to testify to Israel that He
was Christ, or their Messiah, and afterward rescind that order? Acts 2:36. Acts 9:13.
Acts 17:3 and Acts 18:5.


2. Why did Christ denounce His people Israel as “serpents” and “vipers” in Matthew
23:33 to 39, and then, after His death, have Peter address them so tenderly in Acts


3:17 and 18 and 25? Open your Bible and compare these two portions of the Word of
God. Note Matthew 23:33—”ye serpents . . ye generation of vipers” and then note
Acts 3:25: “Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made
with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the
earth be blessed.”


3. Why did the Lord permit Israel to remain protected and preserved by His Covenant,
protected by Rome, receiving the favour of Rome all through the thirty years covered
by the Book of Acts? During those years Israel had access to the Temple and
Jerusalem. Their high-priest and priests continued in charge. This was after Christ
pronounced His awful judgment upon them.


4. What is the meaning of God’s message in Acts 3:19 to 21, inviting Israel to repent so
that they might enjoy the kingdom and the kingdom blessings promised to Israel by
the Old Testament prophets? Surely Peter was not here telling individual Israelites to
be saved by grace and become members of the Body of Christ?


5. Why did Peter declare, in Acts 5:29 to 31, that Jesus Christ had been raised from the
dead to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins? Where did the Gentiles
come in? Does this not prove that the “far off” of Acts 2:37 are the “far off” Israelites
of Daniel 9:7?


6. Why was Paul chosen to be the Apostle to the Gentiles and sent out after Peter
preached to one company of Gentiles, the household of Cornelius? And why did
Christ give Paul’s gospel to him by special revelation and send him to Gentiles to
provoke Israel to jealousy? In other words; why Paul? Acts 13:46. Romans 11:11 and
13. Galatians 1:11 to 18. We repeat: “why Paul; if Paul was chosen to carry on with
Peter’s gospel and the same program?”


7. Is it not a fact, that because of the prayer on the cross for Israel, “Father forgive them,
for they know not what they do,” God gave Israel the opportunity to commit the
UNPARDONABLE sin against the holy Spirit, in the Book of Acts period as they
had committed the PARDONABLE sin against the Son of man when they had Him
crucified? Matthew 12:31 to 33.


8. Why did the Lord tell the Twelve Apostles to remain in Jerusalem and the Apostle
Paul to get out of Jerusalem? Acts 8:1 and Acts 22:17, 18 and 21.


9. Why was it, that some years after Christ told the Twelve to disciple all nations and
preach the gospel to every creature, they accepted Paul’s instructions to limit their
preaching to the circumcision? Matthew 28:19 and 20. Mark 16:14 to 16. Galatians
2:9. Who went into all the world to preach to the nations? Colossians 1:6. I Timothy
2:5 to 7. II Timothy 4:17.


10. In the light of these questions and the Scriptural answers, is it not a fact that the
Christian preacher, who preaches that the Nation Israel was set aside before Peter,
with the Eleven, preached on the day of Pentecost, doth greatly err, not knowing the
Scriptures? Why Acts 13:40 and 41, “Beware”, if it had already happened?


11. Why, after the words of Christ, in John 12:37 to 42, does God grant to Israel the
privilege of repenting for same time after the day of Pentecost, and for seven or eight
years restrain His apostles from preaching to Gentiles? Note the similarity of
judgment in John 12:37 to 42 and Acts 28:25 to 28, and the delay in execution until
after the “Acts” period had passed.


12. Why was there, during the “Acts” period, one order for the Jews that believed and
another order for the Gentiles that believed? Acts 21:18 to 20. Acts 21:24 and 25.
Acts 15:19 to 25. And why, during that period, did Paul become as one under the law
to them who were under the law, and as one not under the law to Gentiles? I
Corinthians 9:20. Read Matthew 23:33 to 39 and then answer, “why was God’s order
‘to the Jews first”’ during Acts?


13. Why is it that so many church-leaders have been so influenced by denominational
creeds and so blinded by tradition that they have neither taught nor believed Romans
11:25? “that blindness in part is happened to Israel until the fulness of the Gentiles be
come in?” And then what? Israel saved. This truth is called a “mystery” or a “secret”.
But it has not been a secret since the truth of Romans 11 was preached.


14. Why is it that men of God, considered able Bible-expositors, have not seen the
significance of God’s judgment upon Israel recorded in Acts 28:25 to 28 about 63
A.D., about thirty years after most Bible teachers have dated the fall of Israel? And
why does the “Acts” period close before the acts of Paul have ended?


15. Why is it that very, very few church-leaders, pastors or teachers, have made any
effort to obey Ephesians 3:9: “and to make all men see what is the fellowship of the
mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, Who created
all things by Jesus Christ?” And why were about half of Paul’s Epistles written before
the “Acts” ended and about half thereafter?
16. What intelligent Bible exegesis can Christian preachers give to proves that the
Pentecostalists are Scripturally right or wrong in their endeavor to recover for the
members of Christ’s Body the tongues, healings, signs, miracles, and visions of the
Book of Acts? Is there no Scriptural antidote for their fanaticism? Is there no cure for
their religious disease? Is, or is not, the message and spiritual program of Peter, in
Acts, for the Church today? Surely it must be admitted by every thinking person, if
there was no change in God’s Divine program after the “Acts” period closed, the
Pentecostalists are the only Christians who are making any effort to carry out the
commission and program of Mark 16:15 to 18 and to perpetuate the message and acts
of the apostles and Christians of the “Acts” period.

Granted-

Dispensationalism is the only cure for the doctrinal blunders of the Church. Some
“dispensationalists” have gone to such extremes that their remedy is worse than the disease. This
remedy, sometimes called “Bullingerism” or “Hyperdispensationalism,” leaves the student with
just as many blunders.

J.

Matthew 16:20, "Then he ordered his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Messiah." "Anyone means just that i.e., not just the Jews.

Matthew 23:29, "“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!" His comments were directed at those people, not all Jews. (Remember, Jesus Himself was a Jew.)

 

[vassal]

"Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you" does not mean the Old Covenant. Jesus died to institute a new covenant, making the old covenant obsolete.

Do a bible search about the new covenant and see that you find, there are very few verses on it. I think I will start a new thread on it to see what people think, we can discuss later. I need to research this further before i post probably in a few days.

peace.

 

[jamessb]

SOME DISPENSATIONAL QUESTIONS


We might ask many questions of men of God who have apparently made little or no
effort to give any Scriptural explanations as to the seeming contradictions and discrepancies in
the Bible. In the interpretations and applications of the New testament Scriptures by
denominational church-leaders, the Bible is left with many seeming contradictions and
discrepancies.
We trust these questions will provoke our readers to something more than a passing
thought.


1. Why did Christ instruct His apostles in Matthew 16:20, not to testify to Israel that He
was Christ, or their Messiah, and afterward rescind that order? Acts 2:36. Acts 9:13.
Acts 17:3 and Acts 18:5.


2. Why did Christ denounce His people Israel as “serpents” and “vipers” in Matthew
23:33 to 39, and then, after His death, have Peter address them so tenderly in Acts


3:17 and 18 and 25? Open your Bible and compare these two portions of the Word of
God. Note Matthew 23:33—”ye serpents . . ye generation of vipers” and then note
Acts 3:25: “Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made
with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the
earth be blessed.”


3. Why did the Lord permit Israel to remain protected and preserved by His Covenant,
protected by Rome, receiving the favour of Rome all through the thirty years covered
by the Book of Acts? During those years Israel had access to the Temple and
Jerusalem. Their high-priest and priests continued in charge. This was after Christ
pronounced His awful judgment upon them.


4. What is the meaning of God’s message in Acts 3:19 to 21, inviting Israel to repent so
that they might enjoy the kingdom and the kingdom blessings promised to Israel by
the Old Testament prophets? Surely Peter was not here telling individual Israelites to
be saved by grace and become members of the Body of Christ?


5. Why did Peter declare, in Acts 5:29 to 31, that Jesus Christ had been raised from the
dead to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins? Where did the Gentiles
come in? Does this not prove that the “far off” of Acts 2:37 are the “far off” Israelites
of Daniel 9:7?


6. Why was Paul chosen to be the Apostle to the Gentiles and sent out after Peter
preached to one company of Gentiles, the household of Cornelius? And why did
Christ give Paul’s gospel to him by special revelation and send him to Gentiles to
provoke Israel to jealousy? In other words; why Paul? Acts 13:46. Romans 11:11 and
13. Galatians 1:11 to 18. We repeat: “why Paul; if Paul was chosen to carry on with
Peter’s gospel and the same program?”


7. Is it not a fact, that because of the prayer on the cross for Israel, “Father forgive them,
for they know not what they do,” God gave Israel the opportunity to commit the
UNPARDONABLE sin against the holy Spirit, in the Book of Acts period as they
had committed the PARDONABLE sin against the Son of man when they had Him
crucified? Matthew 12:31 to 33.


8. Why did the Lord tell the Twelve Apostles to remain in Jerusalem and the Apostle
Paul to get out of Jerusalem? Acts 8:1 and Acts 22:17, 18 and 21.


9. Why was it, that some years after Christ told the Twelve to disciple all nations and
preach the gospel to every creature, they accepted Paul’s instructions to limit their
preaching to the circumcision? Matthew 28:19 and 20. Mark 16:14 to 16. Galatians
2:9. Who went into all the world to preach to the nations? Colossians 1:6. I Timothy
2:5 to 7. II Timothy 4:17.


10. In the light of these questions and the Scriptural answers, is it not a fact that the
Christian preacher, who preaches that the Nation Israel was set aside before Peter,
with the Eleven, preached on the day of Pentecost, doth greatly err, not knowing the
Scriptures? Why Acts 13:40 and 41, “Beware”, if it had already happened?


11. Why, after the words of Christ, in John 12:37 to 42, does God grant to Israel the
privilege of repenting for same time after the day of Pentecost, and for seven or eight
years restrain His apostles from preaching to Gentiles? Note the similarity of
judgment in John 12:37 to 42 and Acts 28:25 to 28, and the delay in execution until
after the “Acts” period had passed.


12. Why was there, during the “Acts” period, one order for the Jews that believed and
another order for the Gentiles that believed? Acts 21:18 to 20. Acts 21:24 and 25.
Acts 15:19 to 25. And why, during that period, did Paul become as one under the law
to them who were under the law, and as one not under the law to Gentiles? I
Corinthians 9:20. Read Matthew 23:33 to 39 and then answer, “why was God’s order
‘to the Jews first”’ during Acts?


13. Why is it that so many church-leaders have been so influenced by denominational
creeds and so blinded by tradition that they have neither taught nor believed Romans
11:25? “that blindness in part is happened to Israel until the fulness of the Gentiles be
come in?” And then what? Israel saved. This truth is called a “mystery” or a “secret”.
But it has not been a secret since the truth of Romans 11 was preached.


14. Why is it that men of God, considered able Bible-expositors, have not seen the
significance of God’s judgment upon Israel recorded in Acts 28:25 to 28 about 63
A.D., about thirty years after most Bible teachers have dated the fall of Israel? And
why does the “Acts” period close before the acts of Paul have ended?


15. Why is it that very, very few church-leaders, pastors or teachers, have made any
effort to obey Ephesians 3:9: “and to make all men see what is the fellowship of the
mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, Who created
all things by Jesus Christ?” And why were about half of Paul’s Epistles written before
the “Acts” ended and about half thereafter?
16. What intelligent Bible exegesis can Christian preachers give to proves that the
Pentecostalists are Scripturally right or wrong in their endeavor to recover for the
members of Christ’s Body the tongues, healings, signs, miracles, and visions of the
Book of Acts? Is there no Scriptural antidote for their fanaticism? Is there no cure for
their religious disease? Is, or is not, the message and spiritual program of Peter, in
Acts, for the Church today? Surely it must be admitted by every thinking person, if
there was no change in God’s Divine program after the “Acts” period closed, the
Pentecostalists are the only Christians who are making any effort to carry out the
commission and program of Mark 16:15 to 18 and to perpetuate the message and acts
of the apostles and Christians of the “Acts” period.

Granted-

Dispensationalism is the only cure for the doctrinal blunders of the Church. Some
“dispensationalists” have gone to such extremes that their remedy is worse than the disease. This
remedy, sometimes called “Bullingerism” or “Hyperdispensationalism,” leaves the student with
just as many blunders.

J.

Matthew 16:20, "Then he ordered his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Messiah." "Anyone means just that i.e., not just the Jews.

Matthew 23:29, "“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!" His comments were directed at those people, not all Jews. (Remember, Jesus Himself was a Jew.)

I hit <enter> before I had finished my reply to the lengthy post. All one has to do is read Romans 9 fand 11 or an answer to the question about God's relation to the Jews.

 

[vassal]

Paul made it quite clear that the Sabbath was a shadow. the reality is Christ who gives us perfect rest. And yes the Lord's Day is the Christian Sabbath. The apostolic churches met on the first day of the week to worship (and rest).

Hello Nehemiah, you did not provide any verses, ill look into this and get back to you but as a general principle God is unchanging so are the commandments, I see no reason for the sabbath day to have been changed.

Peace

 

[Cameron143]

Hello Nehemiah, you did not provide any verses, ill look into this and get back to you but as a general principle God is unchanging so are the commandments, I see no reason for the sabbath day to have been changed.

Peace

Everything changed at the cross. Changing methods is much different than changing immutable attributes.

 

[Johann]

Matthew 16:20, "Then he ordered his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Messiah." "Anyone means just that i.e., not just the Jews.

Matthew 23:29, "“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!" His comments were directed at those people, not all Jews. (Remember, Jesus Himself was a Jew.)

Mat 16:20 Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.

2) "That they should tell no man," (hina medeni eiposin) "in order that they might tell no one at all," lest the enthusiasm of the Galileean's should demand that He be made king, and incite an insurrection, as also related, Mat_8:4; Mat_9:30; Mar_8:30; Luk_9:21.

Notice most don't want to go into the Pauline epistles.
J.

 

[Johann]

Matthew 16:20, "Then he ordered his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Messiah." "Anyone means just that i.e., not just the Jews.

Matthew 23:29, "“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!" His comments were directed at those people, not all Jews. (Remember, Jesus Himself was a Jew.)

I hit <enter> before I had finished my reply to the lengthy post. All one has to do is read Romans 9 fand 11 or an answer to the question about God's relation to the Jews.

You familiar with prophecy and mystery?
J.

 

[Gideon300]

Arguments arise about the relevance of the 10 Commandments and the Law of Moses. I would like to explain here the differences between the two based on scripture (KJV).

The Ten Commandments​

First, the 10 Commandments that were given by GOD, were written by the finger of GOD himself on tables of stone;

Deu 10:1 At that time the LORD said unto me, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first, and come up unto me into the mount, and make thee an ark of wood.
Deu 10:2 And I will write on the tables the words that were in the first tables which thou brakest, and thou shalt put them in the ark.
Deu 10:3 And I made an ark of shittim wood, and hewed two tables of stone like unto the first, and went up into the mount, having the two tables in mine hand.
Deu 10:4 And he wrote on the tables, according to the first writing, the ten commandments, which the LORD spake unto you in the mount out of the midst of the fire in the day of the assembly: and the LORD gave them unto me.
Deu 10:5 And I turned myself and came down from the mount, and put the tables in the ark which I had made; and there they be, as the LORD commanded me.

Note that the tablets were placed INSIDE the Ark of the Covenant under the Mercy seat. The 10 commandments are on a permanent medium, STONE, they are a permanent record. the 10 Commandments are referred to in the biblical texts as My Commandments or His Commandments. The 10 Commandments are the Moral law left to humanity, Jews and Gentiles alike.

The Law of Moses
​

Moses wrote a separate set of Laws that contained ordinances precepts, and statutes. They contained many things that were important for the Israelites of that time such as food laws, purity laws, social laws, sacrifice and offerings, instructions for the tabernacle, the priesthood, the sacrifices the feasts and more. Moses also copied to text what was on the tables of stone, the commandments but it does not mean the 10 commandments given by GOD are from Moses, The 10 Commandments have a HOLY status and are forever and are Distinct and separate from the Law of Moses. The law of Moses written on parchment or other similar medium was TEMPORARY by nature and was put OUTSIDE the ark of the covenant as it is written;

Deu 31:24 And it came to pass, when Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book, until they were finished,
Deu 31:25 That Moses commanded the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, saying,
Deu 31:26 Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.
Deu 31:27 For I know thy rebellion, and thy stiff neck: behold, while I am yet alive with you this day, ye have been rebellious against the LORD; and how much more after my death?

The Mercy Seat
​

The mercy seat covering the Ark of the Covenant puts the emphasis on the Holiness of the Ark of the Covenant and it's contents, the Ten Commandments written on tables of stone;

Exo 25:17 And thou shalt make a mercy seat of pure gold: two cubits and a half shall be the length thereof, and a cubit and a half the breadth thereof.
Exo 25:18 And thou shalt make two cherubims of gold, of beaten work shalt thou make them, in the two ends of the mercy seat.
Exo 25:19 And make one cherub on the one end, and the other cherub on the other end: even of the mercy seat shall ye make the cherubims on the two ends thereof.
Exo 25:20 And the cherubims shall stretch forth their wings on high, covering the mercy seat with their wings, and their faces shall look one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubims be.
Exo 25:21 And thou shalt put the mercy seat above upon the ark; and in the ark thou shalt put the testimony that I shall give thee.
Exo 25:22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which are upon the ark of the testimony, of all things which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.

The mercy seat was the cover of the ark of the covenant where the Lord would meet with Moses over the 2 cherubim. The ark is HOLY and the contents, the 10 commandments are HOLY being written by GOD himself on a permanent medium ( stone )
Once per year on the day of Atonement, the High priest had to sprinkle blood on the mercy seat covering the ark containing the 10 commandments from a sacrifice for forgiveness of sin. Sin being defined as breaking the 10 commandments, the moral law written on the tablets of stone INSIDE THE ARK.

Yeshua, the messiah, the son of GOD, was the ultimate sacrifice, He paid the price for our sins with his blood unto death. Since the Final sacrifice for sin was fulfilled By Christ, The Law of Moses was therefore no longer applicable, it was a temporary Law contrary to the 10 Commandments that will not pass away. The two set of laws were, kept separately, given differently and written differently.

Jesus said we must keep the Ten Commandments to be saved, (Mat. 19:16-19). We are not saved by our obedience to God's law, but by grace thru faith. We must repent of our sins having transgressed the commandments. Repentance changes us from disobedience to willing obedience. Those who are willing to obey the Ten Commandments shall enter thru the gates into the HOLY City;

Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

His Commandments are sure and are Love and stand for ever and ever.

Deu 5:29 O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear me, and keep all my commandments always, that it might be well with them, and with their children for ever!

Peace

Not only did Israel break the commandments, the commandments, in a sense, broke them. And the 10 commandments were not given to the Gentiles, only to Israel. The purpose of the Law was to expose the unwillingness of people to obey the Law of God. (Galatians 3:23).

The letter (of the law) kills, the Spirit gives life. This life is eternal. If the 10 commandments were so important, how come the stone tablets have disappeared? The physical temple is destroyed. The Law is the shadow (Hebrews 10:1 etc.). Some of us prefer to live in the light.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

The 10 commandments and the law were for the house of Israel.
27 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Write down these words, for in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel.” 28 So he was there with the Lord for forty days and forty nights; he did not eat bread or drink water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.

True Jesus said keep the commandments before His death because it's His death that would establish a new covenant.
After Jesus's sacrifice, no NT writer tells us to keep the 10 commandments. We are to worship in spirit, not in letter.
But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter.

Think about what they are saying “don’t worship other gods “ “ don’t kill each other “ don’t steal from each other “ don’t commit adultery “ ect what they say are proof of who they are for

“knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, for whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭1:9-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

those folks never had the lord living inside them that’s why th ey needed to observe outward commandments telling them what they better not do or else because they weren’t born again they didn’t receive the holy spirit thier sins were never remitted you don’t be born again then run back to a law made for people who aren’t born again and have no spirit of God in them and have all their sins still hanging in them

The law is for those who had no remission no new birth no atonement no Holy Spirit in them it’s the same reason they needed a man made temple that was only a pattern the gospel we’re meant to hear and believe is what’s meant to be written on our heart

not “ eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth “ like Moses wrote but turn the other cheek like Jesus said that’s his law

 

[turbosixx]

Not only for the house of Israrel;
Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, evenunto the end of the world. Amen.

Do you see this as the 10 commandments as well?

 

[Nehemiah6]

Hello Nehemiah, you did not provide any verses, ill look into this and get back to you but as a general principle God is unchanging so are the commandments, I see no reason for the sabbath day to have been changed.

Of course God is unchanging. However He gave the 7th day Sabbath specifically to Israel, but there is no such command to the Church. Instead Christ said that He is Lord of the Sabbath, which also means that He has the right and the authority to change THE DAY of the week -- not the purpose of the Sabbath.

Now if you wish to see how Christ established the first day of the week, kindly go to John 20 and read about Jesus coming to meet Thomas on the eighth day after His resurrection, not the next day. Why did Christ wait until the following eighth day? Because He knew that Thomas would worship Him on that day. Also the day of Pentecost would be on the first day of the week.

And the apostolic churches made it a practice to worship on the first day of the week. And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread, and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days. And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight. (Acts 20:6,7) Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come. (1 Cor 16:2) Thus this became "the Lord's Day" (in honor of His resurrection): I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, (Rev 1:10). John called that day "the Lord's Day" by divine inspiration. Had it been the Sabbath, he would have said so.

 

[vassal]

Do you see this as the 10 commandments as well?

No , I see this as instructions for the disciples after Jesus's ascension. The 10 commandments are just that the 10 commandments.

 

[vassal]

Of course God is unchanging. However He gave the 7th day Sabbath specifically to Israel, but there is no such command to the Church. Instead Christ said that He is Lord of the Sabbath, which also means that He has the right and the authority to change THE DAY of the week -- not the purpose of the Sabbath.

Now if you wish to see how Christ established the first day of the week, kindly go to John 20 and read about Jesus coming to meet Thomas on the eighth day after His resurrection, not the next day. Why did Christ wait until the following eighth day? Because He knew that Thomas would worship Him on that day. Also the day of Pentecost would be on the first day of the week.

And the apostolic churches made it a practice to worship on the first day of the week. And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread, and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days. And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight. (Acts 20:6,7) Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come. (1 Cor 16:2) Thus this became "the Lord's Day" (in honor of His resurrection): I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, (Rev 1:10). John called that day "the Lord's Day" by divine inspiration. Had it been the Sabbath, he would have said so.

I have question for you then, in Jesus times how did they, Jesus, Paul, the disciples keep the sabbath, what did they do exactly?

 

[vassal]

Not only did Israel break the commandments, the commandments, in a sense, broke them. And the 10 commandments were not given to the Gentiles, only to Israel. The purpose of the Law was to expose the unwillingness of people to obey the Law of God. (Galatians 3:23).

The letter (of the law) kills, the Spirit gives life. This life is eternal. If the 10 commandments were so important, how come the stone tablets have disappeared? The physical temple is destroyed. The Law is the shadow (Hebrews 10:1 etc.). Some of us prefer to live in the light.

What you wrote is about the law of Moses that can no Longer be followed, the 10 commandments written by the hand of GOD on permanent STONE still in the ark of the covenant still stand today. God said it, Jesus said it, the prophets upheld and revered the commandments what about the psalms about the commandments? it is all over the bible. this is all explained in the O.P. and scripture to back it up, here is one more;

Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. ( jesus speaks here of the Law of Moses that he fulfilled, refereed to as "the law and the prophets" )
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. ( jesus speaks here of the 10 Commandments )

it is abundantly clear!

 

[Aaron56]

Hello Nehemiah, you did not provide any verses, ill look into this and get back to you but as a general principle God is unchanging so are the commandments, I see no reason for the sabbath day to have been changed.

Peace

Ironic since the law was added because of transgressions. He literally changed direction and added the 10 Commandments and the Law because of transgressions.

God is certainly unchanging but what is revealed in time and space is changing all the time.

 

[Magenta]

I have question for you then, in Jesus times how did they, Jesus, Paul, the disciples keep the sabbath, what did they do exactly?

MATTHEW 4:23
And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel
of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people.

MATTHEW 9:35
Jesus went through all the towns and villages, teaching in their synagogues,
preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every disease and sickness.

MARK 6:2a
When the Sabbath came, He began to teach in the synagogue, and many who heard Him were astonished.

LUKE 4:16
Then Jesus came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up. As was His custom,
He entered the synagogue on the Sabbath. And when He stood up to read,

LUKE 4:31
Then He went down to Capernaum, a town in Galilee, and on the Sabbath He began to teach the people.

LUKE 6:6
On another Sabbath Jesus entered the synagogue and was teaching, and a man was there whose right hand was withered.

LUKE 13:10
One Sabbath Jesus was teaching in one of the synagogues,