What if you die before water baptism?
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It's interesting how vehemently people dispute/oppose the need to use the actual name of Jesus in baptism. Yet, have no problem verbalizing His name as commanded in connection with prayer, casting out demons, etc.
Could be that many are not familiar with the scripture: "And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him." Col 3:17
Could be that many are not familiar with the scripture: "And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him." Col 3:17
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I think often it’s just scripture confusing people
In the name of
The father that is a title the name hasn’t been spoken
the son is a title the name still isn’t spoken
the Holy Ghost is a title the name hasn’t been spoken yet
and the lord reveals things to those who are seeking him it begins to become evident that Jesusbis indeed the true God manifest in the flesh and his name is the name above all names and he iis one
soften weve hesrd things for so long in life in chi rich or our circles that when we start really digging into the Bible ourselves we find out some things we’d heard aren’t actually correct and there’s things we could learn that seems to be a point some stop hearing the gospel when it starts to change thier minds about God not just his name but what he taught people
i think of the lawyers and Pharisees always attempting to trap Jesus and accuse him by thier law it seems as if it was because of his doctrine and how it was so different from what they had always been taught it left them in a bit of a pickle but some converted afterwards also sometimes what we’ve learned works against what we are learning from scripture is my point
In the name of
The father that is a title the name hasn’t been spoken
the son is a title the name still isn’t spoken
the Holy Ghost is a title the name hasn’t been spoken yet
and the lord reveals things to those who are seeking him it begins to become evident that Jesusbis indeed the true God manifest in the flesh and his name is the name above all names and he iis one
soften weve hesrd things for so long in life in chi rich or our circles that when we start really digging into the Bible ourselves we find out some things we’d heard aren’t actually correct and there’s things we could learn that seems to be a point some stop hearing the gospel when it starts to change thier minds about God not just his name but what he taught people
i think of the lawyers and Pharisees always attempting to trap Jesus and accuse him by thier law it seems as if it was because of his doctrine and how it was so different from what they had always been taught it left them in a bit of a pickle but some converted afterwards also sometimes what we’ve learned works against what we are learning from scripture is my point
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All scriptures are correct.
Matthew 28:19 KJV
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Acts 2:38 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 8:16 KJV
(For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
Acts 10:48 KJV
And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
Acts 19:5 KJV
When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Matthew 28:19 KJV
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Acts 2:38 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 8:16 KJV
(For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
Acts 10:48 KJV
And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
Acts 19:5 KJV
When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
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I would say legalism against water baptizing water baptism is happening.
But I'm not sure what your implying
John
After this, Jesus and his disciples went out into the Judean countryside, where he spent some time with them, and baptized. 23 Now John also was baptizing at Aenon near Salim, because there was plenty of water, and people were coming and being baptized. 24 (This was before John was put in prison.) 25 An argument developed between some of John’s disciples and a certain Jew over the matter of ceremonial washing. 26 They came to John and said to him, “Rabbi, that man who was with you on the other side of the Jordan—the one you testified about—look, he is baptizing, and everyone is going to him.
So I don't understand at all where your coming from.😊
But I'm not sure what your implying
John
After this, Jesus and his disciples went out into the Judean countryside, where he spent some time with them, and baptized. 23 Now John also was baptizing at Aenon near Salim, because there was plenty of water, and people were coming and being baptized. 24 (This was before John was put in prison.) 25 An argument developed between some of John’s disciples and a certain Jew over the matter of ceremonial washing. 26 They came to John and said to him, “Rabbi, that man who was with you on the other side of the Jordan—the one you testified about—look, he is baptizing, and everyone is going to him.
So I don't understand at all where your coming from.😊
QWhen here those ask, "What's the name ?"
They do not consider what the term means in English " in the name. "
In the name of actual means, BY what authority do you do this.
Coming in the name of one who has authority. Baptizing in the Name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit testifies to the authority of each collectively. Unless one thinks The Father has no authority?
The reason why Peter was Baptized in Jesus' name was an act of Protest because Peter and the Apostles were commanded not to teach in the Authority of Jesus, whom they believed was the Messiah. Not only did they teach, they healed in that name and were baptized in that name or by the authority they believed given to them BY the Lord Jesus himself.
They do not consider what the term means in English " in the name. "
In the name of actual means, BY what authority do you do this.
Coming in the name of one who has authority. Baptizing in the Name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit testifies to the authority of each collectively. Unless one thinks The Father has no authority?
The reason why Peter was Baptized in Jesus' name was an act of Protest because Peter and the Apostles were commanded not to teach in the Authority of Jesus, whom they believed was the Messiah. Not only did they teach, they healed in that name and were baptized in that name or by the authority they believed given to them BY the Lord Jesus himself.
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What’s the name though ? There’s an actual name of our Lord whomis the authority over all things …..he has a name
“Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead ( father son holy ghost ) bodily. And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:”
Colossians 2:8-10 KJV
what is the name of “ him “ who is the power and authority over all creation the king of kings Lord of lords ? He has a name in his name is all that authority his name is his name his name is Jesus that’s his identity his body his blood his spirit his name
“Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead ( father son holy ghost ) bodily. And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:”
Colossians 2:8-10 KJV
what is the name of “ him “ who is the power and authority over all creation the king of kings Lord of lords ? He has a name in his name is all that authority his name is his name his name is Jesus that’s his identity his body his blood his spirit his name
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Totally agree; and it's turning into quite a comprehensive list, as turbo6x says:
"Satan is doing his very best to confuse us"; the more we argue/divide, the "more
he is laughing at us," eh?:
1) How Exactly is "immersion" in it be a beautiful testimony "to
the world" { modern day via internet? }, when it is only done in a
local congregation?
(2) Furthermore problem with this 'beautiful testimony ': How is immersing
young/middle-aged women Any Different than the wet t-shirt contests at
UNgodly liquor establishments? I believe God Said:
(3) immersion with a symbolic interpretation?
(4) immersion ONCE in the "name of Jesus?
(5) immersion THRICE in the "name of the Triune Godhead?
(6) immersion {whether once or thrice} for "membership" in
their traditional assembly?
(7) sprinkling water on babies inducting them into religion
washing away their original sin?
(8) sprinkling water on babies inducting them into some covenant?
(9) sprinkling water on babies inducting them into their parent's custody
that they promise to raise them right? {into Mass Confusion?}
(10) sprinkling water on babies, admitting that their ritual is
UNscriptural, but "we do it anyway, because it is our tradition!"?
(11) pouring water onto babies or adults for Whatever
traditional reason religion "can come up with"?
We could pray about all the Confusion, and then obey God In 2 Timothy 2:15
and solve all the Confusion with [ instead of 11 Satanic winners ],
prayerfully and Carefully studying Only:
ONE { Scriptural } Baptism!
eh? Amen.
"Satan is doing his very best to confuse us"; the more we argue/divide, the "more
he is laughing at us," eh?:
1) How Exactly is "immersion" in it be a beautiful testimony "to
the world" { modern day via internet? }, when it is only done in a
local congregation?
(2) Furthermore problem with this 'beautiful testimony ': How is immersing
young/middle-aged women Any Different than the wet t-shirt contests at
UNgodly liquor establishments? I believe God Said:
"...Be NOT conformed to this world!..." (Romans 12:1-2), no?
(3) immersion with a symbolic interpretation?
(4) immersion ONCE in the "name of Jesus?
(5) immersion THRICE in the "name of the Triune Godhead?
(6) immersion {whether once or thrice} for "membership" in
their traditional assembly?
(7) sprinkling water on babies inducting them into religion
washing away their original sin?
(8) sprinkling water on babies inducting them into some covenant?
(9) sprinkling water on babies inducting them into their parent's custody
that they promise to raise them right? {into Mass Confusion?}
(10) sprinkling water on babies, admitting that their ritual is
UNscriptural, but "we do it anyway, because it is our tradition!"?
(11) pouring water onto babies or adults for Whatever
traditional reason religion "can come up with"?
We could pray about all the Confusion, and then obey God In 2 Timothy 2:15
and solve all the Confusion with [ instead of 11 Satanic winners ],
prayerfully and Carefully studying Only:
ONE { Scriptural } Baptism!
eh? Amen.
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well what about this truth
John
After this, Jesus and his disciples went out into the Judean countryside, where he spent some time with them, and baptized. 23 Now John also was baptizing at Aenon near Salim, because there was plenty of water, and people were coming and being baptized. 24 (This was before John was put in prison.) 25 An argument developed between some of John’s disciples and a certain Jew over the matter of ceremonial washing. 26 They came to John and said to him, “Rabbi, that man who was with you on the other side of the Jordan—the one you testified about—look, he is baptizing, and everyone is going to him
John
After this, Jesus and his disciples went out into the Judean countryside, where he spent some time with them, and baptized. 23 Now John also was baptizing at Aenon near Salim, because there was plenty of water, and people were coming and being baptized. 24 (This was before John was put in prison.) 25 An argument developed between some of John’s disciples and a certain Jew over the matter of ceremonial washing. 26 They came to John and said to him, “Rabbi, that man who was with you on the other side of the Jordan—the one you testified about—look, he is baptizing, and everyone is going to him
