Up Up and away

[Shilohsfoal]

1260 days of the two witnesses, prophets. Concurrent with 1260 days of Revelation 12:6
then
the 42 months rule of the beast. Concurrent with the time, times, half time that Satan will have left.
then
Jesus's return to this earth

False.The beast does not reign during Christs reign.

The beast rules while the two witnesses occupy Jerusalem.
Christ reigns after the two witnesses are resurected and ascend into heaven in a cloud.


11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

1260 days of the two witnesses, prophets. Concurrent with 1260 days of Revelation 12:6
then
the 42 months rule of the beast. Concurrent with the time, times, half time that Satan will have left.
then
Jesus's return to this earth

It doesn't matter how many years you want to make Jesus wait for his kingdom.You could say 3.5 years,7 years,300 years.It doesn't matter how many years you want to add.
The word of God says the kingdom of this world becomes Christs at the time the two witnesses ascend into heaven.There is nothing you can do or say that can change the word of God.
The kingdom belongs to Christ ,not the beast.


15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

 

[douggg]

False.The beast does not reign during Christs reign.

The beast rules while the two witnesses occupy Jerusalem.
Christ reigns after the two witnesses are resurected and ascend into heaven in a cloud.


11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Shilohsfoal, you make no room in your scenario for the third woe to the inhabiters of the earth - Satan's time, times, half time.

if you say that the woe to the inhabiters of the earth in Revelation 12:12 is not the third woe to the inhabiters of the earth - then what woe is it ?

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Shilohsfoal, you make no room in your scenario for the third woe to the inhabiters of the earth - Satan's time, times, half time.

if you say that the woe to the inhabiters of the earth in Revelation 12:12 is not the third woe to the inhabiters of the earth - then what woe is it ?

The third woe is the destruction of them who destroy the earth.Ive quoted the third woe for you but you have rejected the third woe for a different woe from another chapter.The inhabitants of the earth are destroyed by God in the third woe.It does not take God a time,times and a half to destroy those inhabitants.

Here is the third woe again,but you will reject the word of God again.

Revelation 11
14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,

17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.

18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.






That is the third woe as described by the word of God.It is entirely up to you to believe God or not.If you want to believe God can't kill the beast and that it will continue to reign while Christ is reigning that is up to you but that is not what the word of God says.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Shilohsfoal, you make no room in your scenario for the third woe to the inhabiters of the earth - Satan's time, times, half time.

if you say that the woe to the inhabiters of the earth in Revelation 12:12 is not the third woe to the inhabiters of the earth - then what woe is it ?

12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.




This time ,times and a half take place while the two witnesses occupy Jerusalem.The woman flees into the wilderness for 1260 days while two witnesses are deceiving the people of Israel to receive the mark of the beast for 1260 days.

The remnant of her seed who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ are persecuted during that time ,times and a half.The remnant go throughout Israel preaching the gospel for 3.5 years as Christ did and they are persecuted and killed as Christ was.

Jesus gives them instruction throughout the gospel and other books of the bible.

 

[douggg]

The third woe is the destruction of them who destroy the earth.Ive quoted the third woe for you but you have rejected the third woe for a different woe from another chapter.

The text does not say "woe to the inhabiters of the earth" anywhere in Revelation 11. It does in Revelation 12:12.

You did not respond what number woe - the "woe to the inhabiters to the earth" in Revelation 12:12 is ?

This time ,times and a half take place while the two witnesses occupy Jerusalem.The woman flees into the wilderness for 1260 days while two witnesses are deceiving the people of Israel to receive the mark of the beast for 1260 days.

From what you have said, this is your order of the time frames...

1260 days of the two witnesses, prophets. Concurrent with the time, times, half time that Satan will have left. Concurrent with
the 42 months rule of the beast.
then
Jesus's return to this earth

So everything in your order is packed into half of 7 years. No 7 year 70th week of Daniel 9:27 in your scenario?

---------------------------------------------------------------

Your scenario and order is wrong. Revelation 12 is what Israel goes through during the 7 years - not half of it.

How to know...

In the study of the heads and horns - kings - the crowns are different when comparing Revelation 12 vs Revelation 13 (the 42 months of the beast rule).

Revelation 12 (7 years in the chapter)
7 heads - crowns
10 horns - no crowns

Revelation 13 (42 months in the chapter)
7 heads - no crowns
10 horns - crowns

 

[Shilohsfoal]

The text does not say "woe to the inhabiters of the earth" anywhere in Revelation 11. It does in Revelation 12:12.

You did not respond what number woe - the "woe to the inhabiters to the earth" in Revelation 12:12 is ?


From what you have said, this is your order of the time frames...

1260 days of the two witnesses, prophets. Concurrent with the time, times, half time that Satan will have left. Concurrent with
the 42 months rule of the beast.
then
Jesus's return to this earth

So everything in your order is packed into half of 7 years. No 7 year 70th week of Daniel 9:27 in your scenario?

---------------------------------------------------------------

Your scenario and order is wrong. Revelation 12 is what Israel goes through during the 7 years - not half of it.

How to know...

In the study of the heads and horns - kings - the crowns are different when comparing Revelation 12 vs Revelation 13 (the 42 months of the beast rule).

Revelation 12 (7 years in the chapter)
7 heads - crowns
10 horns - no crowns

Revelation 13 (42 months in the chapter)
7 heads - no crowns
10 horns - crowns

False false false

You believe the inhabitants of the earth suffering the wrath of God and being destroyed is not a woe .
How woefully wrong you are.

 

[SabbathBlessing]

No,the two witnesses are only men who can be killed and their dead corpses litter the street.

I have scripture for that without jumping all over the bible.Its all.in the context.

Revelation 11

7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.

10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.




Don't worship them and make them more than they are.

The Two Witness are the Word of God- Old and New Testament
It can't be any human because no human can live that long, and it can't be Moses or Elijiah because Rev 11:7 says they die and both are in heaven so they can't die. So it has to be symbolic.
Lets put the whole chapter here and go through it...

Revelation 11 Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. [a]And the angel stood, saying, “Rise and measure the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there. 2 But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. And they will tread the holy city underfoot for forty-two months. 3 And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth.”

4 These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands standing before the [b]God of the earth. 5 And if anyone wants to harm them, fire proceeds from their mouth and devours their enemies. And if anyone wants to harm them, he must be killed in this manner. 6 These have power to shut heaven, so that no rain falls in the days of their prophecy; and they have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to strike the earth with all plagues, as often as they desire.

The Witnesses Killed
7 When they finish their testimony, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit will make war against them, overcome them, and kill them. 8 And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also [c]our Lord was crucified. 9 Then those from the peoples, tribes, tongues, and nations [d]will see their dead bodies three-and-a-half days, and not allow their dead bodies to be put into graves. 10 And those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them, make merry, and send gifts to one another, because these two prophets tormented those who dwell on the earth.

The Witnesses Resurrected
11 Now after the three-and-a-half days the breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them. 12 And [e]they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they ascended to heaven in a cloud, and their enemies saw them. 13 In the same hour there was a great earthquake, and a tenth of the city fell. In the earthquake seven thousand people were killed, and the rest were afraid and gave glory to the God of heaven.



The time period is the same time period in Daniel 42 months or 1260 days and a day equals a year bible prophecy so 2300 years and this is the timeline of the dark ages 538 to 1798 AD

Sackcloth represents mourning. Genesis 37:34 2 Samuel 3:31 Ester 4:3
So during this time it is a period of mourning.

These are God's Witness- God gives power to them and what to witnesses do? They testify.

John 5:39 You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.

The Two Olive Trees- which takes us to Zacharia 4 and the oil is symbolic for the Holy Spirit. Zac 4:6
The candlestick represent the Chruch/Witness Matthew 5:14-16 which are supported by these two olive trees- the Holy Spirit and the Word of God Psalms 119:105

If anyone harms His Two Witlessness v5 - the same will happen to him Rev 22:18-19

Beast represents a kingdom Dan 7:23

Two Witnesses Killed- spiritual Sodom represents lawlessness Genesis 18:20 spiritual Egypt represents Atheism (denies existences of God) Exo 5:2

This represents France and the French Revolution where they rejected the bible and burned their bibles on the Street. v8 It lasted 3 1/2 days which in Prophecy is 3 1/2 years. There was a ban on the bible in France during the French Revolution that lasted 3.5 years.

After the French Revolution the bible was translated into hundreds of languages and was resurrected.

The Two Witnesses= the Word of God.

 

[achduke7]

Revelation 11

12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven

Revelation 14
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

This is the harpazo

 

[achduke7]

No,the two witnesses are only men who can be killed and their dead corpses litter the street.

I have scripture for that without jumping all over the bible.Its all.in the context.

Revelation 11

7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.

10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.




Don't worship them and make them more than they are.

Where does it say they are only two men and not two groups of people?

 

[achduke7]

God does not say he sent the two prophets in revelation.
Yes they are raised to life and go into that great lake of fire in the sky.

They enjoyed tormenting other people ,now they will be tormented.

They are God's witnessess.

Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Where does it say they are only two men and not two groups of people?

10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

 

[douggg]

False false false

You believe the inhabitants of the earth suffering the wrath of God and being destroyed is not a woe .
How woefully wrong you are.

What number woe to the inhabiters of the earth is the "woe to the inhabiters to the earth" in Revelation 12:12?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From what you have said, this is your order of the time frames...

1260 days of the two witnesses, prophets. Concurrent with the time, times, half time that Satan will have left. Concurrent with
the 42 months rule of the beast.
then
Jesus's return to this earth

So everything in your order is packed into half of 7 years. No 7 year 70th week of Daniel 9:27 in your scenario?

---------------------------------------------------------------

Your scenario and order is wrong. Revelation 12 is what Israel goes through during the 7 years - not half of it.

How to know...

In the study of the heads and horns - kings - the crowns are different when comparing Revelation 12 vs Revelation 13 (the 42 months of the beast rule).

Revelation 12 (7 years in the chapter)
7 heads - crowns
10 horns - no crowns

Revelation 13 (42 months in the chapter)
7 heads - no crowns
10 horns - crowns

 

[Shilohsfoal]

They are God's witnessess.

Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

They are Jesus's witnesses.Their Lord was crucified.

Revelation 11:8
Their bodies will lie in the public square of the great city—which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt—where also their Lord was crucified.


These two prophets call Jesus their Lord but they don't do what he commands in the gospel.They do the opposite of what Jesus commands in the gospel.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

False.The beast does not reign during Christs reign.

The beast rules while the two witnesses occupy Jerusalem.
Christ reigns after the two witnesses are resurected and ascend into heaven in a cloud.


11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

“False.The beast does not reign during Christs reign.”

tou aren’t allowing for Christ reigning in heaven

while the beast is reigning and destroying on earth

“In the beginning God created

the heaven

and the earth.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“The LORD is in his holy temple, The LORD's throne is in heaven:

His eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭11:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD's:

But the earth hath he given to the children of men.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭115:

“The LORD hath prepared his throne in the heavens; And his kingdom ruleth over all.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭103:19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭110:1‬ ‭

“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28:18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:19‬ ‭

Now look at revelation 12 after the son of man is taken up to Gods throne to rule all nations

something is happening in heaven and something else is happening on earth

“And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them.

Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:9-12, 17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Since the beginning God has told us about heaven and earth revelation is showing how creation is interacting heaven and earth

We see a war in heaven Satan loses and is banned and barred

He then in his rage goes to war with those on earth who believe the gospel and follow Jesus the king who is on the throne of heaven already

throughout the book it bounces from what’s happening in heaven and what’s happening on earth as a result of what’s happening in heaven and leads to a unified creation that is cleansed of sin and death where God walks among us and heaven and earth aren’t at odds anymore

 

[Shilohsfoal]

What number woe to the inhabiters of the earth is the "woe to the inhabiters to the earth" in Revelation 12:12?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From what you have said, this is your order of the time frames...

1260 days of the two witnesses, prophets. Concurrent with the time, times, half time that Satan will have left. Concurrent with
the 42 months rule of the beast.
then
Jesus's return to this earth

So everything in your order is packed into half of 7 years. No 7 year 70th week of Daniel 9:27 in your scenario?

---------------------------------------------------------------

Your scenario and order is wrong. Revelation 12 is what Israel goes through during the 7 years - not half of it.

How to know...

In the study of the heads and horns - kings - the crowns are different when comparing Revelation 12 vs Revelation 13 (the 42 months of the beast rule).

Revelation 12 (7 years in the chapter)
7 heads - crowns
10 horns - no crowns

Revelation 13 (42 months in the chapter)
7 heads - no crowns
10 horns - crowns

There is no number woe.Just a woe.


12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.


Notice it just says woe.There is no one two or three.Its just a woe.


The three woes of the last three trumpets are recorded as three numbers.The third woe is at the sound of the seventh and final trumpet.The last Trump and is the final judgement upon the inhabitants of earth.Gods wrath,as I have quoted for you time and time again.

14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,

17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.

18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.



And no.Gods wrath is not the beginning of another 42 months of Satan reign.The beast is destroyed in God's wrath.God is pouring out his wrath upon everyone who has persecuted and killed his saints .God is pouring out his wrath upon everyone who worshiped the beast and it's image and received its mark.

The reign of the beast was before the seventh Trump,not after.


Revelation 16:2
The first angel went and poured out his bowl on the land, and ugly, festering sores broke out on the people who had the mark of the beast and worshiped its image.


The first bowl of God's wrath which is poured out long before the seventh trump,is upon the people who received the mark of the beast.
The beast is destroyed at the time of the seventh Trump.Its over at the seventh Trump.The persecution of the saints has ended at the sound of the last Trump.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

“False.The beast does not reign during Christs reign.”

tou aren’t allowing for Christ reigning in heaven

while the beast is reigning and destroying on earth

“In the beginning God created

the heaven

and the earth.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“The LORD is in his holy temple, The LORD's throne is in heaven:

His eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭11:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD's:

But the earth hath he given to the children of men.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭115:

“The LORD hath prepared his throne in the heavens; And his kingdom ruleth over all.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭103:19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭110:1‬ ‭

“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28:18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:19‬ ‭

Now look at revelation 12 after the son of man is taken up to Gods throne to rule all nations

something is happening in heaven and something else is happening on earth

“And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them.

Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:9-12, 17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Since the beginning God has told us about heaven and earth revelation is showing how creation is interacting heaven and earth

We see a war in heaven Satan loses and is banned and barred

He then in his rage goes to war with those on earth who believe the gospel and follow Jesus the king who is on the throne of heaven already

throughout the book it bounces from what’s happening in heaven and what’s happening on earth as a result of what’s happening in heaven and leads to a unified creation that is cleansed of sin and death where God walks among us and heaven and earth aren’t at odds anymore

Satan does not reign upon earth and the kingdom of this earth is given to Christ.Chtist reigns upon the earth.


15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.


You planning on having Satan reign through the entire millinium or just the first few years of the millinium after Christ has recieved his kingdom upon earth?


Will the saints reign 1000 years in the millinial kingdom or do you want to give Satan half of those?

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Satan does not reign upon earth and the kingdom of this earth is given to Christ.Chtist reigns upon the earth.


15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.


You planning on having Satan reign through the entire millinium or just the first few years of the millinium after Christ has recieved his kingdom upon earth?


Will the saints reign 1000 years in the millinial kingdom or do you want to give Satan half of those?

Circle circle circle

“Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.”
‭‭John‬ ‭18:36‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭6:11-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: in whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭4:3-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them.

Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

….And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:12, 17‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. If any man have an ear, let him hear.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭13:4, 6-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain, and blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭16:10-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

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They are Jesus's witnesses.Their Lord was crucified.

Revelation 11:8
Their bodies will lie in the public square of the great city—which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt—where also their Lord was crucified.


These two prophets call Jesus their Lord but they don't do what he commands in the gospel.They do the opposite of what Jesus commands in the gospel.

Where do you see they are not following Christ?

 

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“Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.”
‭‭John‬ ‭18:36‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭6:11-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: in whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭4:3-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them.

Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

….And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:12, 17‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. If any man have an ear, let him hear.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭13:4, 6-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain, and blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭16:10-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Well,at least you admit God's wrath befalls the seat of the beast before the kingdom of this world is given to Christ at the sound of the seventh Trump.


“And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain, and blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.”


The fifth angel pours out his bowl upon the seat of the beast before the seventh Trump is sounded


15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.