Who has the right to give moral discipline

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Eating, specifically, is not the problem. Casting a stumbling block is the problem.

If you're all like "Hey, muslim guy- here's some meat dedicated to your totally legitimate religion" then, yeah... that's a problem.
and what if your delivering halal meat to them in your delivery truck what then
 

Dino246

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can a Christian serve halal meat to a muslim ? If the Christian is not eating it

What's your views on this
I wouldn't, because I wouldn't purchase Halal meat... period. If I were to invite a Moslem to my home for a meal, I'd offer something that didn't involve meat.
 
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I wouldn't, because I wouldn't purchase Halal meat... period. If I were to invite a Moslem to my home for a meal, I'd offer something that didn't involve meat.
Ok what about if you had to deliver halal meat for the truck company, the truck company you worked for.

Say like your boss said we have got an order in, go to such and such a place snd pick up ten tons of halal meat, would you do it.
 

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Ok what about if you had to deliver halal meat for the truck company, the truck company you worked for.

Say like your boss said we have got an order in, go to such and such a place snd pick up ten tons of halal meat, would you do it.
You either do your job, trusting in God's grace, or you find a different job.
 
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Sorry @Dino246 this works better

What do you think of this video

And are the Arabs worshiping the same God as us and blessing halal meat to the same God ?

 
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No, Moslems are not worshipping the same god. Definitely not. “Allah” does not have a son; our Father in heaven does.
I think there may be confusion here.

Where talking about Arabs.

Muslim is a religion that is divided by different Sects.

So if a section of the Arab world believe Jesus is the Messiah in there interpretation of the Qur'an.

Then Allah is just a name from the middle east like John or Elijah or Jehovah or Yahweh or Jesus.

Or Imanuel.

Theese kind of Arabs reading the Quran are saying Jesus is the Messiah, and don't reject Jesus.

The Jews cant even call God, God and pronounce God G_d.

It's pathetic to say the least, that we favour the Jewish G_d over the Arab God

The Arab God is the same God of Abraham

As is our God.

So they must be blessing halal meat to the right God just like the Jews bless kosher meat
 

Dino246

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I think there may be confusion here.

Where talking about Arabs.

Muslim is a religion that is divided by different Sects.

So if a section of the Arab world believe Jesus is the Messiah in there interpretation of the Qur'an.

Then Allah is just a name from the middle east like John or Elijah or Jehovah or Yahweh or Jesus.

Or Imanuel.

Theese kind of Arabs reading the Quran are saying Jesus is the Messiah, and don't reject Jesus.

The Jews cant even call God, God and pronounce God G_d.

It's pathetic to say the least, that we favour the Jewish G_d over the Arab God

The Arab God is the same God of Abraham

As is our God.

So they must be blessing halal meat to the right God just like the Jews bless kosher meat
Don’t confuse the generic Arabic word ‘allah’ with the Moslem ‘Allah’. The Moslem ‘god’ is definitely not the one true God Whom Christians worship.
 
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Don’t confuse the generic Arabic word ‘allah’ with the Moslem ‘Allah’. The Moslem ‘god’ is definitely not the one true God Whom Christians worship.
sorry I dont get you, .

What is a moslem ?
 

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sorry I dont get you, .

What is a moslem ?
A Moslem is a follower of the religion of Islam. It’s the same as Muslim.

It’s not the same as Arab. Again, Arab is an ethnicity, Moslem denotes religion.
 

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and what if your delivering halal meat to them in your delivery truck what then
If you work for a 'trucking company' then your product is trucking (logistics/transportation). The sun shines on the just and the unjust alike. Doing business with somebody doesn't necessarily mean you endorse their products.

If you're direct selling the product to consumers from a truck that might be different. I don't know enough about Halal meat- but a brief research of the term reveals that it isn't even consistent across Islam as to what Halal even is... apparently KOSHER is also Halal? I guess that makes sense since Islam claims to be consistent with Judaism... but Jews don't accept Halal as Kosher- and that indicates to me that "Halal" is specifically Islamic rather than simply "Arab".

Theese kind of Arabs reading the Quran are saying Jesus is the Messiah, and don't reject Jesus.
If by "Arabs reading the Quaran" you mean Muslims; Yes, they do reject Jesus; they accept a false version of him as a prophet; They reject him as LORD, when he is LORD, YHVH, Jehova, El Elyon, the Almighty God.
 
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A Moslem is a follower of the religion of Islam. It’s the same as Muslim.

It’s not the same as Arab. Again, Arab is an ethnicity, Moslem denotes religion.
If you work for a 'trucking company' then your product is trucking (logistics/transportation). The sun shines on the just and the unjust alike. Doing business with somebody doesn't necessarily mean you endorse their products.

If you're direct selling the product to consumers from a truck that might be different. I don't know enough about Halal meat- but a brief research of the term reveals that it isn't even consistent across Islam as to what Halal even is... apparently KOSHER is also Halal? I guess that makes sense since Islam claims to be consistent with Judaism... but Jews don't accept Halal as Kosher- and that indicates to me that "Halal" is specifically Islamic rather than simply "Arab".


If by "Arabs reading the Quaran" you mean Muslims; Yes, they do reject Jesus; they accept a false version of him as a prophet; They reject him as LORD, when he is LORD, YHVH, Jehova, El Elyon, the Almighty God.
yeah I don't know about Arabs lol or muslims, but I just saw one video showing they share the same belief as pre trib Christians lol.

It seems they believe Jesus never died at the cross to and went to preach in India.

I don't think I will be reporting on them much longer 😊

But anyhow lol I'm still waiting too hear how people have had similar issues within there Jobs.
 

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But anyhow lol I'm still waiting too hear how people have had similar issues within there Jobs.
About 20 years ago, I worked at a media retailer that sold a variety of media- including a very small section of pornography. It didn't bother me until I actually had to ring it up (which took a very long time, people rarely actually bought it)... then I was like "yeah, I have to quit this job": and I did- with an offer for promotion on the table.
 
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About 20 years ago, I worked at a media retailer that sold a variety of media- including a very small section of pornography. It didn't bother me until I actually had to ring it up (which took a very long time, people rarely actually bought it)... then I was like "yeah, I have to quit this job": and I did- with an offer for promotion on the table.
Money is such a tempter for people to make a choice, it's easier for one person to make a decision with money than another's person, you raise a good point.

Some.people may have there house in order like a nest egg of savings, and theese people can look to find a job else where.

But that may only come after they have worked in a job a while, in a job they don't like,

Because why,. because they fear starting a new Job is daunting, will your new boss like you, will you get on with the staff.

Then we have people who are in Jobs that they don't pay as well as other Jobs.

This is unreasonable.for one person to say something bad about another Job, like I won't do that job. But yet if they lost there nest egg, and the only job available was a low payed Job, God could send people who think of themself to highly a trial,

Like making you clean out trash

But then should you not clean out the trash anyway

Who Has the right to give moral lesson about what Job you do 😊