TEMPLE......TO BE OR NOT TO BE....THAT IS MY QUESTION!!!!!

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turbosixx

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The daily sacrifice which the Jews (Judaism) will be doing. They have not accepted the gospel salvation.
Since they have not accepted the gospel, what does that make them?
 
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You ain't seen nothing yet little buddy.

All hell's gonna break loose. And your preposterous theory that things are getting better and better and better since 70AD is going to be incinerated by nuclear fire, blasted to smithereens by meteorites, shaked and baked by massive earthquakes and blazing heat, and pummeled to oblivion by 70 pound hailstones.

So good luck buddy you're going to need it.
says big moses. Just curious why tell Cameron he will have it when you won't
 

turbosixx

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The Jews don't believe this. They want their rituals. Heck, we have believers on this very forum who would LOVE to follow this tradition and ritual......It would earn them more points for God.
Then they don't understand. It would not earn them more points with God but anger Him.
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
 

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says big moses. Just curious why tell Cameron he will have it when you won't
Since when was I talking about him in particular? I was talking about his preposterous theory.
 

cv5

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Then they don't understand. It would not earn them more points with God but anger Him.
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Earning points? The old covenant and ritual sacrifices were never about "earning points".

And they will not be in the millennium either. They will serve their originally intended purpose.
 
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Great wisdom so-called is rarer than hens teeth on this thread.
By certain posters anyways.
well then maybe you should lower your staff for a bit 😋 moses

I mean I feel you have a lot to offer but anyhow how can we learn of you when your busy hitting us with lightening
 
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Since when was I talking about him in particular? I was talking about his preposterous theory.
you may have envisioned nuclear war but how do you know whether an ice age won't come first
 

turbosixx

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Earning points? The old covenant and ritual sacrifices were never about "earning points".

And they will not be in the millennium either. They will serve their originally intended purpose.
Not sure where you stand based on your reply but I do have one question. What was their intended purpose?
 

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Futurism and preterism were 2 false doctrines invented by Jesuits because the Protestants had the truth. But today 90 percent of the protestant churches follow these futurism or preterism errors.
No futurist is buying into the false claim that the Jesuits invented futurism. No more than anyone believes that Billy Graham invented the gospel of salvation.

I am assume you are a historist ?
 

turbosixx

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Unbelievers in Christ, unsaved. The Jews (Judaism) are looking for another, who will turn out to be the Antichrist.
Your first point confuses me a little. No one in Christ is unsaved. I agree they are unsaved and therefore outside of Christ. I'm sure we can both agree there is only one way they can be saved.

Since they are out side of Christ and deny Christ, do you believe they are still God's people?
 

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There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
we are one in Christ so Israel is no longer centered in Abraham and his blood line but is centered in Christ. If we are in Christ we are part of Gods family. It is about the heart.
Rom_2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Many Christians misplace the focus from spiritual Israel to the literal Jewish nation, they are also confused on the subject of the temple. Most of the speculation for a rebuilt temple springs from a vague reference in 2 Thessalonians 2 dealing with the Antichrist power: “That day shall not come … [until] that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God” (vs. 3, 4).

Many say that for the Antichrist to sit in the temple, it will obviously have to be rebuilt.

Those who support this belief are known as Christian Zionists, and they include such popular writers as Hal Lindsey, Tim LaHaye, and John Hagee. Their published book sales exceed 70 million copies—including the popular Left Behind series. Their beliefs are endorsed by some of the largest theological colleges and institutions.

But are they correct?
 

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Not sure where you stand based on your reply but I do have one question. What was their intended purpose?
Object lessons, types, shadows, symbols, mnemonics.........about Who Jesus Christ is and what He is doing and what He is going to do.

Same goes for every OTHER thing there is about Isael who they are why they were chosen and what they were doing. Even what they were not doing that they were supposed to do.

Their cleansing rituals, their prescribed diet, the priesthood, the high priest vestments, the exacting instructions regarding the building Temple & the Tabernacle, the Ark, the ephod, the colors of the thread, the Temple furnishings, the wilderness wanderings, the conquest of Canaan.....

On and on ad infinitum. Everything all of it.

Jesus Christ Jesus Christ Jesus Christ Jesus Christ Jesus Christ.........
Jesus Christ Jesus Christ Jesus Christ Jesus Christ Jesus Christ.......
 
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@douggg it's all good bro where all at war it can't be helped.

All's well that end well eh 😊

So Douglas do you believe there's any chance you could be wrong about stuff just curious
 

TMS

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But are they correct?
To begin, let’s go to 1 Chronicles 17:11, 12: “It shall come to pass ... that I will raise up thy seed after thee, which shall be of thy sons; and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build me an house, and I will stablish his throne for ever.” This prophecy given to King David says his offspring will build the temple. Later, in 1 Chronicles 28:6, God reaffirms, “Solomon thy son, he shall build my house and my courts.”

But this text is also one of the clearest examples of a dual prophecy found in Scripture. Dual prophecies have both a physical and spiritual fulfillment. Indeed, Solomon, the son of David, built the physical temple. But this prophecy also applies spiritually to Jesus, the true “Son of David,” who is to build a temple and kingdom that will last forever.

Jesus’ prophecy that the pride of the Jewish nation, the temple, would be destroyed inspired the most intense rejection of His teachings. (See Matthew 24:1, 2.) In John 2:19, Jesus says, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” Of course, Jesus is speaking of rebuilding a temple—not of stone and nails, but of living stones (1 Peter 2:5). Yet many refused to grasp this teaching (John 2:20, 21). They even mocked Jesus on the cross regarding His prophecy (Matthew 27:40).

Yet when Jesus died, the veil in the earthly temple ripped in two from the top to bottom, signifying that the temple no longer held meaning. A temple for sacrifice today would be as useless as it was then, and it would not be the house of God.

The New Testament is replete with the idea that the temple is the body of Jesus. Ephesians 2:19–22 says, “Ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God: And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.” (1 Peter 2:5.)

Even after God provides all this clear evidence that His temple is a spiritual one, many Christians are waiting for the Jews to receive a construction permit to rebuild a physical temple on the site where a Muslim mosque now sits. However, there is no prophecy, promise, or commandment in the Bible that says the physical temple would ever be rebuilt after the Romans razed it nearly 2,000 years ago.