Does God love all mankind and does He wish to save everyone
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The Lord would come and dwell in the tabernacle at times. Why would he do that if they had the Holy Spirit? Same with the disciples before Pentecost? Did they not understand anything spiritual before that?
Spiritual milk or elementary principles would be: repentance from dead works and faith toward God, baptisms and the laying on of hands, resurrection from the dead and age-long judgment. We can see unsaved persons being exposed to the bare bones of these six things by the apostles' preaching before their audiences believed in Christ for salvation. Once someone saw healing of him/herself or others by the laying on of a disciples' hands, and had repented and believed God's testimony about Christ, having heard the call to repent and be baptised into Christ and receive the promised Holy Spirit, and having understood the promises of resurrection and God's judgment, they would in obedience immediately get baptised.
In the Acts understanding of all these six issues was offered to unbelievers before they believed then and were saved. A deeper understanding of the implications to those now within the kingdom of these six elementary level aspects was then fleshed out to the new believer as spiritual milk.
Many people including Judas understood the call to be baptised into Jesus' community and were baptised by Jesus' disciples (John 3:22-26) but the later turned away from Jesus when He spoke about them eating HIs flesh and drinking His blood in John 6:53-66. Were thet regenerated to repent and believe and submit to Jesus' baptism? Did people need to be regenerated to receive healing from the laying on of Jesus' hands? Did people need to be regenerated to believe in the resurrection of the dead?
ForestGreenCook ... please read what I wrote. I never stated "the natural man, before he has been born spiritually, can understand the spiritual milk of the word".
What I wrote:
you consider what is written in Romans 1:20-21 concerning the natural, physical realm revealing God's eternal power and Godhead which can be understood and known to natural man
to be
the milk of the word which is spiritual in nature and which the newly born again one can understand.
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the more in-depth spiritual matters Paul discussed with the mature believers in Corinth (1 Cor 2:6-14), which cannot be comprehended by those who are not born again or by those who are babes in Christ(whether newly born again or born again for a while but never matured beyond the basics of Jesus Christ and Him crucified – 1 Cor 2:2).
The point is that what is written in Romans 1:20-21 relates to the natural, physical realm which natural man can understand and can know.
God's Word is comprised of some truths which do not require a person to be born again in order to understand.
A person does not need to be born again in order to understand "thou shalt not steal" ... you are in error when you insist there is absolutely nothing in God's Word that natural man can understand.
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You think unbelievers are not chastened by God? God chastens every single person who has ever been born ... He chastens now ... He will continue to chasten in the future.
Unbelievers probably think the worst thing for them is to listen to believers speaking the truth of God's Word ... but in reality the worst thing for them is when believers do not speak God's Word ...
The worst chastening is to be separated from God.
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The old testament saints were born with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit as new born babes, in the same manner as the new testament saints are. New born babes grow spiritually as they hear and understand spiritual things.
The natural man, as described in 1 Cor 2:14, has not been born again of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and, therefore, cannot understand anything of a spiritual nature, not even shallow things, and thinks them to be foolishness.
The Godhead is made up of three identities, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, which have different functions, likewise, the Holy Spirit also has three different functions; Quickening Spirit, Revelator, and comforter.
So, do you think that Psalms 73 should not be a part of the bible? What do you do with the scripture that says God chastens every son whom he receives. Does he receive those that do not believe in him?
The natural man does not go to the bible to understand "thou shalt not steal". He understands it when he gets arrested for doing it. The natural man understands the law of man. He does not understand the law of a spiritual God.
Your theology gives credit to man, not to God.
"The kingdom of heaven" is one of several names of the church that Jesus set up. The scriptures that govern the discipline of the church will eliminate some disobedient elect from entering the church, however all of God's elect will enter heaven itself.
If doing the will of the Father allows you to enter eternal heaven, then that would be eternal salvation is gained by our works.
Paul left Timothy in Ephesus to charge some that they teach no other doctrine (1 Tim 1:3). The "all men" in 1 Tim 2:1 is in reference to pray for all that have authority over them that they might lead a good and peaceful life.
The "all men" in verse 4 has reference to all of the men who were teaching another doctrine. Saved=delivered, according to Strong's concordance, from their ignorance of the truth.
If we are to understand the doctrine of Christ, all scriptures must harmonize. The natural man, as described in 1 Cor 2:14, cannot repent of breaking one of God's spiritual laws that he cannot understand, and thinks they are foolishness.
Only those that have been born again of the Holy Spirit will repent of breaking a spiritual law, and they are scattered everywhere.
It is about everyone, not just some. He desires being sought, and to those who seek it is promised : He will be revealed. Acts 17...
“The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”
2 Peter 3:9
Gods Will is that man repent , believe the gospel and live in paradise with him forever but …it is an invite he is telling us the truth and inviting us to attend through hearing and believing the gospel of his kingdom
“Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”
Mark 1:14-15 KJV
“The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son, and sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.
But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise: and the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.
But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.
Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.”
Matthew 22:2-10
I’m not sure that parable makes sense but the idea is God has made salvation available to all but many won’t attend they choose other things heres Luke’s version
“Then said he unto him, A certain man made a great supper, and bade many: and sent his servant at supper time to say to them that were bidden, Come; for all things are now ready. And they all with one consent began to make excuse. The first said unto him, I have bought a piece of ground, and I must needs go and see it: I pray thee have me excused. And another said, I have bought five yoke of oxen, and I go to prove them: I pray thee have me excused. And another said, I have married a wife, and therefore I cannot come.
So that servant came, and shewed his Lord these things. Then the master of the house being angry said to his servant, Go out quickly into the streets and lanes of the city, and bring in hither the poor, and the maimed, and the halt, and the blind.
And the servant said, Lord, it is done as thou hast commanded, and yet there is room. And the Lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled.
For I say unto you, That none of those men which were bidden shall taste of my supper.”
Luke 14:16-24 KJV
Just because we are invited doesn’t mean we’re going to choose to attend israel is an example of that we have to accept his offer sometimes people won’t do that part sometimes Christian life would require us to change and we’d rather live like we want to frankly
Paul calls a tenaciously held false idea "a stronghold" for a reason.
2 Cor. 10:4 The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. 5 We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.
God saw (all the inhabitants of the earth) that none would seek him, no, not one. (Psalms 14::1-3) That is why he choose some (Eph 1:4) that he gave to Jesus to redeem them from their sins by his death on the cross.(John 6:37-40).