TEMPLE......TO BE OR NOT TO BE....THAT IS MY QUESTION!!!!!
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I understand what you say, and gree that resuming the sacrifices would be in vain. But, there are rumours that the Jews know where the ARK is. They are absolutely ready to build the temple, the temple stones are cut and hidden at an undisclosed location, the Levite priests are trained and ready and they have practised sacrifices already. There was a need for the red heifer for the purification rites, now they have this also. the war in Gaza is in my opinion is a prelude for the temple to be rebuilt. Withous the ARK of the covenant, I fail to see how the temple could be desecrated This is just an opinion. it is a really complex issue and the timelines of prophecy in Daniel, Matthew and others must be looked at in detail, I will be looking at this and watching this important thread, Thank you for posting this!
temple institute link; https://templeinstitute.org/
Many blessings.
temple institute link; https://templeinstitute.org/
Many blessings.
His return will end the world
“How do you know something didn't happen like that before the temple was destroyed?”
brother consider
“But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet,
standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judæa flee to the mountains:”
Mark 13:14 KJV
“Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.”
Daniel 9:24 KJV
Nonone ever realizes he was given them a certain measure of time to repent and they never did …..instead
“And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself:
and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary;
and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.”
Daniel 9:26 KJV
Notice the people never did what God said they had seventy weeks to do instead the other happened they rejected the messiah and it lead to the destruction of Jerusalem
These parables are about Israel jerusalem particularly look how they end and notice it’s because they reject and kill the prophets and then they reject and kill their promises messiah
“Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country: and when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it. And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.
Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise.
But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son. But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance. And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.
When the Lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen? They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons. Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, The same is become the head of the corner: This is the Lord's doing, And it is marvellous in our eyes? Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.”
Matthew 21:33-43 KJV
This again is about israels continuos rejection of God and the ot prophets that they persecuted
“The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son, and sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.
But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise: and the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.
But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.
Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.”
Matthew 22:2-10
Jesus and the gospel is how israel can be saved or any gentile because the nation rejected him only a remnant of about 500 believed at first the rest had shouted “ away with him crucify him ! Crucify him ! We have no king but ceasar !”
The brutilization and murder of Gods son was what lead to Israel’s desolation
“How do you know something didn't happen like that before the temple was destroyed?”
brother consider
“But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet,
standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judæa flee to the mountains:”
Mark 13:14 KJV
“Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.”
Daniel 9:24 KJV
Nonone ever realizes he was given them a certain measure of time to repent and they never did …..instead
“And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself:
and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary;
and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.”
Daniel 9:26 KJV
Notice the people never did what God said they had seventy weeks to do instead the other happened they rejected the messiah and it lead to the destruction of Jerusalem
These parables are about Israel jerusalem particularly look how they end and notice it’s because they reject and kill the prophets and then they reject and kill their promises messiah
“Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country: and when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it. And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.
Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise.
But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son. But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance. And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.
When the Lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen? They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons. Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, The same is become the head of the corner: This is the Lord's doing, And it is marvellous in our eyes? Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.”
Matthew 21:33-43 KJV
This again is about israels continuos rejection of God and the ot prophets that they persecuted
“The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son, and sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.
But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise: and the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.
But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.
Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.”
Matthew 22:2-10
Jesus and the gospel is how israel can be saved or any gentile because the nation rejected him only a remnant of about 500 believed at first the rest had shouted “ away with him crucify him ! Crucify him ! We have no king but ceasar !”
The brutilization and murder of Gods son was what lead to Israel’s desolation
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Have you read wars 6 from Josephus? If not go down to "chapter4 s5" I want to ask you something... https://avande1.sites.luc.edu/jerusalem/sources/wars6.htm
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Whose resurrection? Jesus? Certainly.
He's not on a cross,
A tomb's not His thing.
He sits on a throne
Befitting the King.
He's got a new set of keys
Round His neck on a string.
Death lies impotent
Without its power to sting.
The risen Saviour
In glory ablaze
Is the joy of heaven
And the end of all praise.
He's not on a cross,
A tomb's not His thing.
He sits on a throne
Befitting the King.
He's got a new set of keys
Round His neck on a string.
Death lies impotent
Without its power to sting.
The risen Saviour
In glory ablaze
Is the joy of heaven
And the end of all praise.
I can't be sure that Jesus' resurrection would imply an ascension for everyone. 
1&2 Timothy were some of the last letters Paul wrote(late ad 60's right before his death) notice 1 Timothy 1:20 and 2 timothy 2 17-18,,,they were given over to Satan because they were saying the resurrection had already taken place (approx. 30 years after Christ DBR) ...
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_timothy/1.htm
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/2_timothy/2.htm
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It's not clear to me exactly. It could be as you have outlined, and at first that seems to be the case. But then it seems that some Jews were trying to put out the fires that seemed to be started by a Roman soldier through a window after being hoisted up on the shoulders of another soldier. And all this is further confused because it seems the Jews were no longer trying to protect themselves from attack but only concerned to put out the fire.
I guess if I had a better understanding of the temple itself and the size and makeup of the Jews there, and was more familiar with the history recorded by Josephus I could answer better. But I would have to do a great deal of research to answer with any degree of certainty. I'm woefully lacking in this area so I'm not a good choice to ask.
I guess if I had a better understanding of the temple itself and the size and makeup of the Jews there, and was more familiar with the history recorded by Josephus I could answer better. But I would have to do a great deal of research to answer with any degree of certainty. I'm woefully lacking in this area so I'm not a good choice to ask.
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Be at peace my friend I respect what you said about researching it further.. Once upon a time everyone was saying all sorts of things about it and I wasn't sure about what I heard. In those days we were taunted and told that if we had read and studied Josephus's writings we would see all things fulfilled so I did. The thing is though by the time I did I realized that for the most part they had only parroted a few select portions of that history and that instead of Josephus's history making the case for preterism it actually proved to be it's demise. That is if the Jews revolted(1st,2nd,3rd Jewish revolt) then it could not be said that they worshiped Caesar as God(they did the opposite). Nor did they use his money(mark) to buy and sell they minted their own coins that had no pagan images https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Jewish_Revolt_coinage Again they revolted at every attempt made by the Romans to have them sacrifice or erect an pagan image in the Temple of God http://penelope.uchicago.edu/josephus/war-2.html Why is this important? Because in Revelation 13 those who worship the image (do worship) it and (receive it's mark) but the Jews in ad66-70 are doing the direct opposite by revolting,refusing to use their mark/coins ect.... REVOLT does not mean worship Rome/Caesar as God it means "they did not" which means they did not fulfill Revelation 13 in ad 66-70... https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/13.htm
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