One World religion

[Magenta]

I believe as you do. But he was summoned. And OT. Mary would be present with the Lord at
her passing. Why wouldn't God just send an angel as he has done in every other instance?

Respectfully... don't forget that the RCC does not believe that Mary died at all. In fact, there are only two
ex cathedra dogmas (both of which are mandatory for Catholics to believe) and they concern Mary. One is
what they call her assumption. I suppose it is inexorably tied to the other, which is her supposed immaculate
conception, for they believe Mary was born without sin, so that Jesus could be sinless (as if the Son of God
needed her help in this!). Think about it: she was sinless (so they claim) and so did not have to suffer the
wages of sin, which is death. And because she did not die (so they say), but was bodily assumed to Heaven,
there she remains alive and well, ready to receive the prayers of the deceived. Yeah. They call her the queen
of heaven, the second Eve, and the mother of us all, and also, quite clearly contrary to what Scripture actually
teaches on the matter, she intercedes on behalf of the deceived. Mohammed was illiterate and somewhat
ignorant of what was written in the Bible, just as Catholics largely were for centuries.

 

[Obedience]

Can anything draw the two giants of religion together and form a one-world religion?

Catholic Catechism pages 242-243, we read, “Mary the model of the Church: There is a close relationship between Mary’s spiritual motherhood and the motherhood of the Church. She is the pattern for all whose task in the Church is to assist in Jesus saving work. Every Pope, bishop, priest, deacon, religious, and lay person can look to Mary as the exemplar of fidelity to his or her special vocation of mediating salvation.”

Mohammad had a daughter whose name was Fatima. Muslims consider her to be a counterpart to Mary. Mary is Islam’s most revered woman, and Fatima is a close second. Fatima had been raised a Muslim but converted to Christianity. The Vatican claimed this was a sign, a miracle from God directed toward Christians worldwide.

Fatima means ‘The Shining One.’ In Portugal, a town named after her is dubbed as such for the namesake of Fatima Zahra.

On three separate occasions, three young children, Lucia Santos, and her two cousins, reported having seen an angel’s apparitions in the Ourem region of Portugal. These sightings continued until May 13, 1917. They claim to have witnessed the apparition of the Virgin Mary. Roman Catholics worldwide began praying their devotion to the town of Fatima. This apparition of the Virgin Mary was a significant public relations event between the Vatican and Mecca.

E-lo-him is how the Hebrews pronounce God’s name. Some believe the root word has been lost in Hebrew and currently exists only in Arabic as A-la-ha. Two of the oldest versions of the Bible, the Samaritan and Chaldean versions, retain the noun in its original form, A-la-him. The closeness of names alone could bring Islam and the Catholic Church to some mutual agreement.

Another possible connection is that Abraham plays a prominent role in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Muslims believe Abraham fulfilled all the commandments and trials and that Allah nurtured him throughout his lifetime. All three religions understand Abraham to be the father of both the Jews and the Arab nations. Jews by way of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the Arabs, by way of Abraham, Ishmael, and Esau.”

The third reason is that Isa is the Arabic name for Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus is considered a prophet in Islam but is not thought to be God. The Antichrist and Isa play essential roles in end-time prophecy. Islam’s Jesus is to usher in Islam as the world’s religion, and Islam’s Madi is to appear before Jesus.

Mahdi is the divinely guided One who is to establish the ideal Islamic state and fulfill the divine law. Then, Isa or their Jesus will come, and the last judgments will follow him. Islam is expecting their Mahdi soon, the twelfth Imam.

Will the Vatican and Islam come to some compromise? All they need is a trigger.

The rise of Islam is only because God wants to help Jews know Jesus Christ.Read the Koran carefully and you will find the problem.But scripture is scripture, and blind is blind.Just like Jews, they read scripture, but they don't know who the Messiah really is.Muslims don't know what their responsibilities are when they read scripture.

 

[Obedience]

Things are too complicated,People don't necessarily believe my word.I advise you to put aside all your views and read and study carefully to see the truth.Otherwise, the devil took advantage of it and counted money for him.Don't be used by the devil.I'm curious, if God doesn't ask Mohammed to help the Jews, how long will it take the Jews to know the Messiah?I am even more curious, even if God found Mohammed to persuade the Jews.How long will it take the Jews to change their minds?I am even more surprised at what a state it would be without Muslims now.

 

[Gideon300]

The rise of Islam is only because God wants to help Jews know Jesus Christ.Read the Koran carefully and you will find the problem.But scripture is scripture, and blind is blind.Just like Jews, they read scripture, but they don't know who the Messiah really is.Muslims don't know what their responsibilities are when they read scripture.

Meanwhile Islam spreads into Europe like a disease, worse than any virus ever that ever afflicted the human race. Europe is slowly waking up to this fact as Muslim aggression ramps up. It is not by chance that Muslim illegals head for Western countries. They are missionaries for Islam, intent on doing by stealth what the Muslim armies could not do by force. They do not head for other Muslim countries. Muslims generally do not read the Bible, by the way.

The rise of Islam parallels the decline of Christianity in the West. It is not a coincidence.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Does Mary have powers to show herself? Independently of God? Don't angels serve this function?

Someone posing as Mary showed herself. Her messages were contrary to what God has said:

SHE WANTED THE CHILDREN TO ATONE FOR SINS
“Will you offer yourselves to God and bear all the sufferings he sends you? In atonement for all the sins that offend him? And for the conversion of sinners? [The children said, “We will.”] Then you will have a great deal to suffer, but the grace of God will be with you and will strengthen you.”

SHE WANTED THEM TO SAY THE ROSARY DAILY
“Say the Rosary every day, to bring peace to the world and an end to the war.”

SHE WANTED HER "IMMACULATE HEART" TO BE FOR DEVOTION
“I shall take Jacinta and Francisco [to heaven] soon, but you [Lucia] will remain a little longer, since Jesus wishes you to make me known and loved on earth. He wishes also for you to establish devotion in the world to my Immaculate Heart. … My child … you must not be sad. I will be with you always, and my Immaculate Heart will be your comfort and the way which will lead you to God.”

SHE WANTED THEM TO MAKE SACRFICES FOR SINNERS
“Make sacrifices for sinners, and say often, especially while making a sacrifice: ‘O Jesus, this is for love of thee, for the conversion of sinners, and in reparation for offenses committed against the Immaculate Heart of Mary.’”

SHE OFFERED SALVATION THROUGH HER "IMMACULATE HEART"
After showing the children a vision of hell]: “You have seen hell, where the souls of poor sinners go. It is to save them that God wants to establish in the world devotion to my Immaculate Heart. If you do what I tell you, many souls will be saved, and there will be peace.”

SHE WANTED RUSSIA TO BE CONSECRATED TO HER "IMMACULATE HEART"
“To prevent this, I shall come to the world to ask that Russia be consecrated to my Immaculate Heart, and I shall ask that on the First Saturday of every month Communions of reparation be made in atonement for the sins of the world.

SHE WANTED STATUES (IDOLS) MADE AND CARRIED BY THE CHILDREN
“I want you [Lucia] to have two ardors [to carry statues] made, for the feast of Our Lady of the Rosary. I want you and Jacinta to carry one of them with two other girls. You will both dress in white. And then I want Francisco, with three boys helping him, to carry the other one. The boys, too, will be dressed in white.

SHE WANTED A CHAPEL BUILT IN HER HONOR
“I want a chapel built here in my honor. I want you to continue saying the Rosary every day. The war will end soon, and the soldiers will return to their homes.”

There is not one word here about the Lord Jesus Christ and His finished work of redemption.

 

[Obedience]

Meanwhile Islam spreads into Europe like a disease, worse than any virus ever that ever afflicted the human race. Europe is slowly waking up to this fact as Muslim aggression ramps up. It is not by chance that Muslim illegals head for Western countries. They are missionaries for Islam, intent on doing by stealth what the Muslim armies could not do by force. They do not head for other Muslim countries. Muslims generally do not read the Bible, by the way.

The rise of Islam parallels the decline of Christianity in the West. It is not a coincidence.

I mean the beginning of Islam.Just because God wants to find a third party to persuade the Jews.God didn't look for a Christian or a Jew, because God is just.As for why they became Muslims now.I don't know or understand.

As for them not reading the Bible, I can't understand that the Koran doesn't deny the Bible, and the Koran doesn't deny Christians.In my opinion, Muslims or Islam cannot represent the Koran.

 

[Gideon300]

Things are too complicated,People don't necessarily believe my word.I advise you to put aside all your views and read and study carefully to see the truth.Otherwise, the devil took advantage of it and counted money for him.Don't be used by the devil.I'm curious, if God doesn't ask Mohammed to help the Jews, how long will it take the Jews to know the Messiah?I am even more curious, even if God found Mohammed to persuade the Jews.How long will it take the Jews to change their minds?I am even more surprised at what a state it would be without Muslims now.

Mohamed was a mass murdering paedophile, a liar and deceiver, worse than Adolf Hitler. Mohamed is dead, rotting in hell. God is quite able to deal with the Jews without Mohamed. If you are studying the Qur'an, you are looking in entirely the wrong place. It's a book of lies set out to deceive. It is the spirit of Antichrist (1 John 2:22).

Jews will be saved by the same way as everyone else: believe and receive Lord Jesus as Saviour and Lord. Be not ashamed of the gospel.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

Can anything draw the two giants of religion together and form a one-world religion?

Catholic Catechism pages 242-243, we read, “Mary the model of the Church: There is a close relationship between Mary’s spiritual motherhood and the motherhood of the Church. She is the pattern for all whose task in the Church is to assist in Jesus saving work. Every Pope, bishop, priest, deacon, religious, and lay person can look to Mary as the exemplar of fidelity to his or her special vocation of mediating salvation.”

Mohammad had a daughter whose name was Fatima. Muslims consider her to be a counterpart to Mary. Mary is Islam’s most revered woman, and Fatima is a close second. Fatima had been raised a Muslim but converted to Christianity. The Vatican claimed this was a sign, a miracle from God directed toward Christians worldwide.

Fatima means ‘The Shining One.’ In Portugal, a town named after her is dubbed as such for the namesake of Fatima Zahra.

On three separate occasions, three young children, Lucia Santos, and her two cousins, reported having seen an angel’s apparitions in the Ourem region of Portugal. These sightings continued until May 13, 1917. They claim to have witnessed the apparition of the Virgin Mary. Roman Catholics worldwide began praying their devotion to the town of Fatima. This apparition of the Virgin Mary was a significant public relations event between the Vatican and Mecca.

E-lo-him is how the Hebrews pronounce God’s name. Some believe the root word has been lost in Hebrew and currently exists only in Arabic as A-la-ha. Two of the oldest versions of the Bible, the Samaritan and Chaldean versions, retain the noun in its original form, A-la-him. The closeness of names alone could bring Islam and the Catholic Church to some mutual agreement.

Another possible connection is that Abraham plays a prominent role in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Muslims believe Abraham fulfilled all the commandments and trials and that Allah nurtured him throughout his lifetime. All three religions understand Abraham to be the father of both the Jews and the Arab nations. Jews by way of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the Arabs, by way of Abraham, Ishmael, and Esau.”

The third reason is that Isa is the Arabic name for Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus is considered a prophet in Islam but is not thought to be God. The Antichrist and Isa play essential roles in end-time prophecy. Islam’s Jesus is to usher in Islam as the world’s religion, and Islam’s Madi is to appear before Jesus.

Mahdi is the divinely guided One who is to establish the ideal Islamic state and fulfill the divine law. Then, Isa or their Jesus will come, and the last judgments will follow him. Islam is expecting their Mahdi soon, the twelfth Imam.

Will the Vatican and Islam come to some compromise? All they need is a trigger.

It's already done:

Abrahamic Family House

Article:​

Abrahamic Family House ‘changes all the rules’ of interfaith understanding


🍉

 

[Gideon300]

I mean the beginning of Islam.Just because God wants to find a third party to persuade the Jews.God didn't look for a Christian or a Jew, because God is just.As for why they became Muslims now.I don't know or understand.

As for them not reading the Bible, I can't understand that the Koran doesn't deny the Bible, and the Koran doesn't deny Christians.In my opinion, Muslims or Islam cannot represent the Koran.

Do you know what the Qur'an says? Do you know what an infidel is? I've attached just a snippet of what the Qur'an has to say about those who reject Islam.

 

[Cameron143]

Respectfully... don't forget that the RCC does not believe that Mary died at all. In fact, there are only two
ex cathedra dogmas (both of which are mandatory for Catholics to believe) and they concern Mary. One is
what they call her assumption. I suppose it is inexorably tied to the other, which is her supposed immaculate
conception, for they believe Mary was born without sin, so that Jesus could be sinless (as if the Son of God
needed her help in this!). Think about it: she was sinless (so they claim) and so did not have to suffer the
wages of sin, which is death. And because she did not die (so they say), but was bodily assumed to Heaven,
there she remains alive and well, ready to receive the prayers of the deceived. Yeah. They call her the queen
of heaven, the second Eve, and the mother of us all, and also, quite clearly contrary to what Scripture actually
teaches on the matter, she intercedes on behalf of the deceived. Mohammed was illiterate and somewhat
ignorant of what was written in the Bible, just as Catholics largely were for centuries.

I was raised in the RCC. When I was saved, it was in a Catholic church. Once my eyes were opened, it didn't take long to learn there were serious doctrinal issues. If Mary was sinless, wouldn't her mother also have to be sinless, etc.
I was agreeing with the part about Samuel and something else I don't recall. But I was questioning why the poster thought God would employ Mary. God does things for His own glory.

 

[Obedience]

Do you know what the Qur'an says? Do you know what an infidel is? I've attached just a snippet of what the Qur'an has to say about those who reject Islam.

Have you read the whole book carefully?
Without context, any discourse can be distorted.
Scripture is scripture.The blind are blind.

 

[Cameron143]

Someone posing as Mary showed herself. Her messages were contrary to what God has said:

SHE WANTED THE CHILDREN TO ATONE FOR SINS
“Will you offer yourselves to God and bear all the sufferings he sends you? In atonement for all the sins that offend him? And for the conversion of sinners? [The children said, “We will.”] Then you will have a great deal to suffer, but the grace of God will be with you and will strengthen you.”

SHE WANTED THEM TO SAY THE ROSARY DAILY
“Say the Rosary every day, to bring peace to the world and an end to the war.”

SHE WANTED HER "IMMACULATE HEART" TO BE FOR DEVOTION
“I shall take Jacinta and Francisco [to heaven] soon, but you [Lucia] will remain a little longer, since Jesus wishes you to make me known and loved on earth. He wishes also for you to establish devotion in the world to my Immaculate Heart. … My child … you must not be sad. I will be with you always, and my Immaculate Heart will be your comfort and the way which will lead you to God.”

SHE WANTED THEM TO MAKE SACRFICES FOR SINNERS
“Make sacrifices for sinners, and say often, especially while making a sacrifice: ‘O Jesus, this is for love of thee, for the conversion of sinners, and in reparation for offenses committed against the Immaculate Heart of Mary.’”

SHE OFFERED SALVATION THROUGH HER "IMMACULATE HEART"
After showing the children a vision of hell]: “You have seen hell, where the souls of poor sinners go. It is to save them that God wants to establish in the world devotion to my Immaculate Heart. If you do what I tell you, many souls will be saved, and there will be peace.”

SHE WANTED RUSSIA TO BE CONSECRATED TO HER "IMMACULATE HEART"
“To prevent this, I shall come to the world to ask that Russia be consecrated to my Immaculate Heart, and I shall ask that on the First Saturday of every month Communions of reparation be made in atonement for the sins of the world.

SHE WANTED STATUES (IDOLS) MADE AND CARRIED BY THE CHILDREN
“I want you [Lucia] to have two ardors [to carry statues] made, for the feast of Our Lady of the Rosary. I want you and Jacinta to carry one of them with two other girls. You will both dress in white. And then I want Francisco, with three boys helping him, to carry the other one. The boys, too, will be dressed in white.

SHE WANTED A CHAPEL BUILT IN HER HONOR
“I want a chapel built here in my honor. I want you to continue saying the Rosary every day. The war will end soon, and the soldiers will return to their homes.”

There is not one word here about the Lord Jesus Christ and His finished work of redemption.

I appreciate you taking the time to lay all this out. It was the point I was making. What you shared will help alot of people.

 

[Obedience]

It's already done:

Abrahamic Family House

Article:​

Abrahamic Family House ‘changes all the rules’ of interfaith understanding


🍉

Interesting.

 

[Obedience]

Mohamed was a mass murdering paedophile, a liar and deceiver, worse than Adolf Hitler. Mohamed is dead, rotting in hell. God is quite able to deal with the Jews without Mohamed. If you are studying the Qur'an, you are looking in entirely the wrong place. It's a book of lies set out to deceive. It is the spirit of Antichrist (1 John 2:22).

Jews will be saved by the same way as everyone else: believe and receive Lord Jesus as Saviour and Lord. Be not ashamed of the gospel.

I don't know anything about Mohamed, I only know what the Koran says.
I studied and learned what this book is about by myself.
I found that God has always loved Israel In the book of Koran.
That's all I got.

 

[Gideon300]

Have you read the whole book carefully?
Without context, any discourse can be distorted.
Scripture is scripture.The blind are blind.

The Qur'an is not scripture. No, I have not read all of it. I've read enough to make me believe that World War 1 was in fact World War 2. The first world war is still going and it is Islam against the non Muslim world.

Jesus said that His Kingdom is not of this world. Mohamed employed every worldly method to achieve his aims, which were, and still are, a world wide caliphate. Mohamed is dead and that's the end of him as an individual. Jesus is alive and He will return. Jesus warned His people against false prophets. There have been many, but Mohamed was the most influential. The Qur'an is antichrist and so are those who follow it. Now tell me which part of:

Koran 2:191 "slay the unbelievers wherever you find them"
Koran 3:21 "Muslims must not take the infidels as friends"
Koran 5:33 "Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam"
Koran 8:12 "Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the
Koran

Etc. etc.

I misunderstand.

 

[Gideon300]

I don't know anything about Mohamed, I only know what the Koran says.
I studied and learned what this book is about by myself.
I found that God has always loved Israel In the book of Koran.
That's all I got.

Tell that to Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, and every other Muslim country. I'm sure they will realise their error and repent. Or they might get mad and kill you. That's rather more likely. If you read it carefully, you will find that Israel is only favoured if they accept Islam. Of course they do not. So they are the enemies of Islam. Do a bit of historical research into the early centuries of Islam. It will help you understand.

 

[Obedience]

The Qur'an is not scripture. No, I have not read all of it. I've read enough to make me believe that World War 1 was in fact World War 2. The first world war is still going and it is Islam against the non Muslim world.

Jesus said that His Kingdom is not of this world. Mohamed employed every worldly method to achieve his aims, which were, and still are, a world wide caliphate. Mohamed is dead and that's the end of him as an individual. Jesus is alive and He will return. Jesus warned His people against false prophets. There have been many, but Mohamed was the most influential. The Qur'an is antichrist and so are those who follow it. Now tell me which part of:

Koran 2:191 "slay the unbelievers wherever you find them"
Koran 3:21 "Muslims must not take the infidels as friends"
Koran 5:33 "Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam"
Koran 8:12 "Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the
Koran

Etc. etc.

I misunderstand.

Would you believe me if I told you that I had read the English version and I found that it had been deliberately edited?

 

[Obedience]

Tell that to Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, and every other Muslim country. I'm sure they will realise their error and repent. Or they might get mad and kill you. That's rather more likely.

I have no ability to make a blind man see.Just as I can't convince Jews that Jesus Christ is the Messiah.

 

[Gideon300]

Would you believe me if I told you that I had read the English version and I found that it had been deliberately edited?

What if i told you that Islam mandates lying in order to deceive infidels and to promote Islam? What if I told you that what Imams preach in Arabic in the Mosque is not what they say in public? That's why places like the UK are scared to upset Muslims. London is already a Muslim hellhole. If Muslims rise up in Jihad, the UK will long for the good old days of World War 2.

 

[Gideon300]

I have no ability to make a blind man see.Just as I can't convince Jews that Jesus Christ is the Messiah.

You are the blind one. Get yourself sorted then you might be a witness to the Jews.