Should artificial intelligence be allowed to evolve
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Scary, recursive self improvement is how AlphaGo became better than all the other Go masters. This is how AI can rapidly improve. Alpha Go taught itself to be the best Go player worldwide in a matter of months.
The first step is you have to become as good as human Go players, and then you play yourself again and again and again to improve.
Already they are estimating on certain tasks like programming it is better than 85% of programmers. So it is now possible for it to train itself by recursive self improvement and what better than to work on the programming for the AI.
What are you talking about, of course there is.
Matthew 13:44 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.
The kingdom of heaven for those alive is an earthly kingdom. And since you insist, your original insinuation was fraught with unwarranted innuendo and judgment. Since when did homeownership become synonymous with not listening to the Lord? Owning a home allows financial freedom to free up resources to promote the kingdom of God.
But since you believe there is a moving company that can move my present abode to heaven, can you kindly send me the number for 2 angels and a truck?
There was no unneundo or judgment. Simply stating a fact. We live in a world full of thieves and robbers. If you own the home it can be stolen, that is a fact. If you have given the home to the Lord then whatever happens is part of His purpose and plan. The Lord is well able to protect it, guard it, and do whatever is necessary. That is what the verse says, sell all that you have. It doesn't mean that you become homeless and live on the street, it means that everything belongs to the Lord, nothing belongs to you and therefore nothing can be stolen from you.
DECEMBER 29, 2023
Editors' notes
AI reliably detects emotions based on facial expressions in psychotherapeutic situations
The face reflects a person's emotional state. The interpretation of facial expressions as part of psychotherapy or psychotherapeutic research, for example, is an effective way of characterizing how a person is feeling in that particular moment. In the 1970s, psychologist Paul Ekmann developed a standardized coding system to assign basic emotions such as happiness, disgust or sadness to a facial expression in an image or video sequence.
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-12-ai-reliably-emotions-based-facial.html
Ekman and others who can do this reliably command top dollar consulting fees. However, AI has several key advantages. First it can be much faster than most people who need to take a video and then go through the video slowly, repeatedly.
Secondly, the AI might identify three thirty second clips in a 30 minute video where it wants a second opinion. So instead of hiring Ekman and his team to do everything you simply pay them to consult on three thirty second clips, something they could do in 30 minutes.
Now imagine you focus this on the jury in a trial. If it is hard to go through a thirty minute interview with one person, imagine going through 8 hours a day of a trial trying to evaluate 12 jurors and three alternates. This is one type of lawyer, a guy who specializes in evaluating a jury. One skill is reading the jury which AI would be able to do as well if not better, but certainly much faster and cheaper than the best teams out there.
A second skill is jury selection. AI is studying Facebook and social platforms to understand the psychology of people and predict their political ideology. This can be very useful in picking a jury. Also, while questioning a potential juror there are very clever psychological tricks that can be used to determine their biases by reading micro expressions.
My point is this, if AI can perform better than a legal consultant whose team can make over a million dollars on a big trial, then why isn't that considered "intelligence"? This is where AI is today, with recursive self improvement AI can study the results of a trial. If it had predicted a juror would vote a certain way and got it wrong it can go back and analyze. Perhaps it was right that the juror was leaning one way, but now needs to pick up on the psychology that this person is a follower and will acquiesce to the more dominant members of the jury. But since AI is already at the level where it can be very good, the recursive training could make it spectacularly good in a matter of a few months.
Editors' notes
AI reliably detects emotions based on facial expressions in psychotherapeutic situations
The face reflects a person's emotional state. The interpretation of facial expressions as part of psychotherapy or psychotherapeutic research, for example, is an effective way of characterizing how a person is feeling in that particular moment. In the 1970s, psychologist Paul Ekmann developed a standardized coding system to assign basic emotions such as happiness, disgust or sadness to a facial expression in an image or video sequence.
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-12-ai-reliably-emotions-based-facial.html
Ekman and others who can do this reliably command top dollar consulting fees. However, AI has several key advantages. First it can be much faster than most people who need to take a video and then go through the video slowly, repeatedly.
Secondly, the AI might identify three thirty second clips in a 30 minute video where it wants a second opinion. So instead of hiring Ekman and his team to do everything you simply pay them to consult on three thirty second clips, something they could do in 30 minutes.
Now imagine you focus this on the jury in a trial. If it is hard to go through a thirty minute interview with one person, imagine going through 8 hours a day of a trial trying to evaluate 12 jurors and three alternates. This is one type of lawyer, a guy who specializes in evaluating a jury. One skill is reading the jury which AI would be able to do as well if not better, but certainly much faster and cheaper than the best teams out there.
A second skill is jury selection. AI is studying Facebook and social platforms to understand the psychology of people and predict their political ideology. This can be very useful in picking a jury. Also, while questioning a potential juror there are very clever psychological tricks that can be used to determine their biases by reading micro expressions.
My point is this, if AI can perform better than a legal consultant whose team can make over a million dollars on a big trial, then why isn't that considered "intelligence"? This is where AI is today, with recursive self improvement AI can study the results of a trial. If it had predicted a juror would vote a certain way and got it wrong it can go back and analyze. Perhaps it was right that the juror was leaning one way, but now needs to pick up on the psychology that this person is a follower and will acquiesce to the more dominant members of the jury. But since AI is already at the level where it can be very good, the recursive training could make it spectacularly good in a matter of a few months.
Your exact words were...No. You are paying the price for not listening to the Lord...
I'm no expert, but that sounds like a statement of fact. A statement which you have no way of knowing is true. You can say it was of the Lord. But to presume His purposes in it is indeed judgment.
Two things can be true at the same time. I can believe what has occurred to me is an injustice perpetrated by unjust individuals, and that the Lord allowed it to happen and has purpose in it. When Peter preached the day of Pentecost, he said the following...Acts 2:23...Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain...Both the actions of man and fulfillment of God's purposes.
You have a free will, it is up to you, are you living for yourself or God. Have you legally, and officially given everything to Him in a legally binding contract or not? This was something I did very early in my Christian life, within the first two years. You sit down, write out a legally binding document where you consecrate everything you have to God and sign it.
Let me give you an example. I was a young man, with an entry level position at an oil company. I lived a few blocks from work, but a coworker who was a Christian was selling his car so he could get a mini van because he needed that for his family. So I bought his car. A brother at church was just getting started with a business painting cars and he had just gotten married. He needed some work done on the building but didn't have money. So I did the work for him in exchange he painted my car. Another brother got sick with Amoeba Dysentary, and so he couldn't work but his family needed money. So I paid him to reupholster my car (which is what he does), I gave him the money up front and when he felt better he could do the work.
Then I had to drive to DFW airport to catch an early morning flight to go to a funeral. I left at midnight, it was a four or five hour drive. On the way I fell asleep while driving 65 mph down the freeway, the car turned around and I'm going backwards down the freeway at 65 mph trying to wake up. The car goes flying off the freeway about 200 yards. It was a miracle that it didn't roll over and it was a miracle I didn't hit any other cars. The car would not start. At that moment it seemed certain to me that I would not make my flight, but then I noticed on the other side of the freeway was a 24 hour mechanic and there just happened to be a bridge right there. So I walk over the bridge. This guy immediately gets into the tow truck, drives over, and tows my car back. There was another guy there with a Cadillac but he ignored him and talked about how much I appreciated cars (I just kept my mouth shut). Next door was a diner so I went and ate breakfast and when I was finished my car was also fixed. I was broke at the time and had no idea how I would pay for this. But he charged me $5. I made my flight. For a long time I could not understand that experience until I finally realized that was an angel and he was fixing the car because it didn't belong to me, it belonged to God. That is what he meant when he said I appreciated cars, I understood how I could help others with that car.
just generalizing really about conscience, we talk about morals of knowing right from wrong is conscience.
And we talk about being subjective as in you telling your wife her looks nice but it doesn't really. Why can't a robot be like that really
The context was "your house was stolen". Yes, if "your house is stolen" then "you" are paying the price for not listening to God. You were told not to store up treasure on earth where thieves can steal. That house should have been given to God. I learned this lesson the hard way and if you want to hear that story let me know.
Because it's as foreign as an alien species like i said.
It may do nice things, or it can turn on us.
that's exactly what I'm saying really, people have conscience but they still turn on you, because of a lack of conscience and a lack of rationality , but with a robot able to know what response would lead to hostility and then not choose that option who has the better conscience.
No, your change of mind is in this post of yours:
I thought you were all for AI earlier.
Now you are pointing out the unavoidable flaws in that tech.
I have not changed my mind, you thought one thing about my mind, and now you think something else.
So again, why have you changed your mind concerning my stance? Why did you think I was all for it before? What changed your mind?
I have said repeatedly that I view AI as "the tree of the knowledge of good and evil". I don't see how that can be misinterpreted. I also pointed out that Israel fought with AI when they entered the good land after defeating Jericho which I think is a reference to MSM and their censorship.
That's not the same thing at all because we know human nature and all its evils. We don't know the nature of a foreign entity which would be the equivalent of an alien species.
It's not biological. It has a completely different way of thinking and it may see us as a threat.
That's why it's the equivalent of the atomic bomb. The implications are huge.
This is why how we call things is important. What we have right now is not AI, it's automation, just like any point in the past 100 years.
We just automate things.
Why should we be any more afraid of it tho is the question at hand
On the bases people are more likely to turn on you because of wires going loose in there brain.
At least with robots there loose wires can be fixed.
As for nuclear threats we live under those threats everyday.
As for not knowing the robot who and makes decisions by it's self is not to be trusted, wouldn't that just be case of maybe one or two going haywire from time to time,
I'm sure security issues could be ironed out.
With robots that could fix any aspect of your health both physically and mentally, wouldn't it be beneficial.
Because it would be a conscious entity which moves itself from server to server and it would also manifest itself via a metal weapon (robot) which it would control via satellite from its location to harm us. That's one scenario, so we would be at a huge disadvantage because we are biological beings fighting metals.
Pretty much any sci-fi movie that you've seen it would be a reality if AI becomes self-aware. This is why Musk is against it. He knows the implications.
Fixing wires or a defect would be outside of what we are allowed to do with that 'thing' if it becomes autonomous. It would be outside of our control. Right now, all programs are under our control and perform automated tasks.
your talking about a future movie of some nightmare that goes wrong.
I think people are scared of it because of the unknown aspect.
But it could be a case of something so safe that all those movie nightmare have no chance of happening.
Maybe we could have wages for robots, like a law introduced that robots would be a digital image of you lol.
Who knows what could be introduced.
I'm sure an employer wouldn't mind if you sent your robot to work who turned up each day on time and got the job done
