Yes, they are. The foolish might bury 'know' the master reaps where he does not sow, but he is given at least one measure to do see if he'd do what he should with it.
What Does It Mean That God Desires All People To Be Saved?
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No, it does not say that. It says that those saved are given an ability to measure faith. It is "the measure of faith", not "a measure of faith", being Christ's faith. Observe:
[Rom 12:3 KJV] 3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think [of himself] more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.
For G1063 I say, G3004 through G1223 the grace G5485 given G1325 unto me, G3427 to every man G3956 that is G5607 among G1722 you, G5213 not G3361 to think of himself more G3844 highly G5252 than G3739 he ought G1163 to think; G5426 but G235 to think G5426 soberly, G1519 G4993 according as G5613 God G2316 hath dealt G3307 to every man G1538 the measure G3358 of faith. G4102
metron (Key) (G3358)
measure, an instrument for measuring
ok, should I suppose then that every man doesn't mean every man? It is apparent that G3956 and G1538 makes a distinction between the two occurrences. Which means every man and which means every man that is among you?No, it does not say that. It says that those saved are given an ability to measure faith. It is "the measure of faith", not "a measure of faith", being Christ's faith. Observe:
[Rom 12:3 KJV] 3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think [of himself] more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.
Rom 12:3
For G1063 I say, G3004 through G1223 the grace G5485 given G1325 unto me, G3427 to every man G3956 that is G5607 among G1722 you, G5213 not G3361 to think of himself more G3844 highly G5252 than G3739 he ought G1163 to think; G5426 but G235 to think G5426 soberly, G1519 G4993 according as G5613 God G2316 hath dealt G3307 to every man G1538 the measure G3358 of faith. G4102
metron (Key) (G3358)
measure, an instrument for measuring
You provided the numerical reference for "measure" along with each word within the verse within its context and I noticed that the first occurrence of 'every man' and the second occurrence have differing numerical references.
It says neither can they know, and nothing about any inability to offer faith, even if it acknowledges the withholding of it.
Rom 12:3
For G1063 I say, G3004 through G1223 the grace G5485 given G1325 unto me, G3427 to every man G3956 that is G5607 among G1722 you, G5213 not G3361 to think of himself more G3844 highly G5252 than G3739 he ought G1163 to think; G5426 but G235 to think G5426 soberly, G1519 G4993 according as G5613 God G2316 hath dealt G3307 to every man G1538 the measure G3358 of faith. G4102
metron (Key) (G3358)
measure, an instrument for measuring
to every man G3956 (that is among you) and to every man G1538 (that is dealt a measure of faith). not the same group, even though the former is included in the latter, there is a distinction of meaning.
I'm not to proud to be corrected my mispeaking in regard to the accuracy of 'the' rather than 'a,' assuming that "the" regards 'the only one particular faith that counts is that which is of interest to God what we do with.'
You've concluded that it's only been dealt to the first group, then why... forget it. I've already expressed once my reticence to speaking into the air.
I'm not to proud to be corrected my mispeaking in regard to the accuracy of 'the' rather than 'a,' assuming that "the" regards 'the only one particular faith that counts is that which is of interest to God what we do with.'
No problem at all. We're all here to learn by kicking our ideas back and forth between each other - that's why we post and that's how we learn.
I found a different use within that verse that you've are hesitant to acknowledge. The first speaks to every man within a certain group while the second refers to every man in general, even afar.
No. No faith that is supposedly produced through man's intellect has any merit to it (if I correctly understand your use of the word "merit"). The only faith with merit is Christ's faith, which faith, is imputed to those whom He saves, by which, we come to a belief in Him. It is only by His faith within us, that through Him, we receive merit.
[Gal 2:16 KJV] 16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
[Phl 3:9 KJV] 9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: