The Error of KJV-Onlyism

[Nehemiah6]

Very interesting. And sad. Iv'e asked for doctrines that we miss out on from reading and studying from the NASB. None provided. Not even "small" doctrines. It was even implied that demons are involved in the NASB

"None provided"? That's a lie.

I gave you one clear example from John 6:69 and you simply ignored it. Further down I also posted that Frank Logsdon REPUDIATED the NASB shortly after he helped to create it (since he was on the translation committee). Did you read that post? Logsdon said "I am in trouble with the Lord" and therefore repudiated this bible perversion. Read his testimony and wake up. He also repudiated the critical text.

As to demons being involved read that post again. The WORDS OF DEMONS when addressing Christ were put into the mouth of Peter by the modern versions. There is no way that "thou art that Christ, the Son of the Living God" can be changed to "you are the Holy One of God" (as said by unholy demons).

What is sad is your unwillingness to face the truth.

 

[Bible_Highlighter]

Hilarious. As if God spoke Elizabethan English to the Hebrew/Israeli prophets, and New Testament writers.

1 Corinthians 1:27
"But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;"

 

[Magenta]

1 Corinthians 1:27
"But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God
hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;"

Do you think/believe God spoke Elizabethan English to the OT prophets, and New Testament writers?

Yes or no will do. No long-winded reply full of faulty assumptions and erroneous conclusions required.

 

[Bible_Highlighter]

Do you think/believe God spoke Elizabethan English to the OT prophets, and New Testament writers?

Yes or no will do. No long-winded reply full of faulty assumptions and erroneous conclusions required.

My bad. I misread what you wrote. It is late and I am half falling asleep here. I thought you were attacking how God would never use an Elizabethan English translation as His Pure Word for today. I say this because this point has been mocked by others. I have the quote actually.

 

[Magenta]

My bad. I misread what you wrote. It is late and I am half falling asleep here. I thought you were
attacking how God would never use an Elizabethan English translation as His Pure Word for today.

Is that what was happening over two hours ago as well?

 

[Bible_Highlighter]

Is that what was happening over two hours ago as well?

I don’t’ believe so.
I am confident in the studies I have done over the past decade on this topic.

Anyway, may God’s grace shine upon you, and good evening.

 

[Stan_the_Man]

Most arguments in support of KJVO use circular reasoning.

We really need to watch out for that triangular reasoning too!

 

[Magenta]

I don’t’ believe so.
I am confident in the studies I have done over the past decade on this topic.

Anyway, may God’s grace shine upon you, and good evening.

Oh, so all those lies you told about me get brushed under the proverbial rug
because you have studied something else for years? Wow. Thanks for nothing.

And this is why KJ onlyists are despised by many. May God open your eyes.

 

[Kroogz]

"None provided"? That's a lie.

I gave you one clear example from John 6:69 and you simply ignored it. Further down I also posted that Frank Logsdon REPUDIATED the NASB shortly after he helped to create it (since he was on the translation committee). Did you read that post? Logsdon said "I am in trouble with the Lord" and therefore repudiated this bible perversion. Read his testimony and wake up. He also repudiated the critical text.

As to demons being involved read that post again. The WORDS OF DEMONS when addressing Christ were put into the mouth of Peter by the modern versions. There is no way that "thou art that Christ, the Son of the Living God" can be changed to "you are the Holy One of God" (as said by unholy demons).

What is sad is your unwillingness to face the truth.

Wow. Just wow. Have a great day bud.

 

[Kroogz]

Oh, so all those lies you told about me get brushed under the proverbial rug
because you have studied something else for years? Wow. Thanks for nothing.

And this is why KJ onlyists are despised by many. May God open your eyes.

Otherwise reasonable people turning unreasonable. Over a translation? I have heard of KJV only folks but never looked into it. It's sure an 'I' opener.

 

[GaryA]

#7. In 1 Thessalonians 5:22 - The counterfeit Bibles change "all appearance of evil" to "every form (or kind) of evil."

This verse in the KJB refutes the idea that Christians can celebrate Halloween and or make themselves look like a bad guy (i.e., an evil person) that would scare or alarm the average person on the street. In other words, we should not appear to dress up as if we look evil or endorse those who do.

1 Thessalonians 5:

22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.

This verse is referring to 'all appearance of evil' in the sense of:

"Do not allow yourself to be in any situation whereby it even appears that you are doing something evil."

It is not specifically about your physical appearance having the resemblance of "something evil"; rather, it is about the 'appearance' of you doing something 'evil'.

And, if it is not corrupted, the overall intent of the meaning is:

"Not only should you avoid [actually] doing evil - you should avoid even the 'appearance' of doing anything evil."

 

[Magenta]

Otherwise reasonable people turning unreasonable. Over a translation?
I have heard of KJV only folks but never looked into it. It's sure an 'I' opener.

I begin to question if they are otherwise reasonable. One of our KJ onlyist refuses to acknowledge that alcohol has any good use, and is actually recommended under certain circumstances in Scripture. No matter how many times he is shown the verses, he is like, nuh uh. Even when those verses are from the KJV! Another admits that the KJV has errors but will still act as if it is perfect. He is a piece of work, repeatedly exaggerating well beyond the point of telling the truth in other matters, and falsely accusing, being found in error himself on numerous Scriptural issues and refusing to acknowledge, admit, apologize, or correct himself. He prefers to lord it over others than have any humility. I know we all have our faults and shortcomings, but over the years I have been here and the number of times these things have transpired between us, you would think he would know better by now. But no, he actually acted as if I believed the Bible was written in Elizabethan English because he read a number of posts wrong. When the original post was brought up for him to see what had actually been said, his predictable behavior surfaced: silence. It may have been right here in this thread, that's how recent that exchange was. He just goes on like he made no mistake and refuses to address to correct his deplorable behavior. Then what happened today. I have nothing against the KJV, generally speaking. I made this clear in talking with someone, and then they make a post to me claiming I believe all kinds of nonsense about other translations when I never said any such thing, nor even hinted at the things he said. Does he apologize when this rather salient fact is pointed out to him? No, not at all. Just carries on like nothing happened.

 

[Magenta]

Otherwise reasonable people turning unreasonable. Over a translation?
I have heard of KJV only folks but never looked into it. It's sure an 'I' opener.

And then along comes another and claims non-KJ onlyists do not believe the Bible. It really gets ridiculous.

While they make more assertions, none of which they have any way of knowing the truth of.

 

[GaryA]

I believe you have this somewhat 'backward' - it is those who are against the KJV that react, get angry, etc. at the mere mention that the KJV is the best English bible version available for the past 400 years.

The "KJV-only proponents" are trying to get others to understand just how much of a "treasure chest" of truth and value it really is!

And, you mock...

Remember what I said about Satan and his cattle prod? Believe-it-or-not, that is the reality.

Otherwise, the Holy Spirit is trying to get your attention - but, you resist...

Satan does not want you to understand what you are losing when you disregard the significance and importance of the KJV. And, he would "dearly love" to see it go out of existance - and, you are helping him to discredit it - which he also loves.

It is not just any-ole-version - it is a special version - and, history has shown that God's hand has been on it since it was translated.

All of the outlandish 'rebellion' against it is actual proof of what I said about Satan and his cattle prod.

Consider the utter arrogance of that statement. You ain't the Holy Spirit. When He wants my attention, He speaks to me.

My statement has nothing whatsoever to do with the idea of me being the Holy Spirit.

You misunderstood.

What I am saying is that [the] "angry" reactions result from being "poked" by the cattle prod. Otherwise, what-you-are-experiencing is the Holy Spirit trying to get your attention.

The whole point of that statement is - the Holy Spirit is trying to get your attention - He is speaking to you - but you are not listening.

 

[Magenta]

he actually acted as if I believed the Bible was written in Elizabethan English

Should have said, he actually acted as if I believed the Bible was originally written in Elizabethan English...

 

[GaryA]

A link to a book is NOT evidence.

The evidence is in the book.

 

[GaryA]

Let me ask you this, what Bible would you suggest?

Who are you asking - the OP?

 

[GaryA]

Why, then, did they not write in Hebrew?

Because, in human history, there was a 'great expansion' of the Greek language and a 'great expansion' of the English language - each occuring 'worldwide' and at its own "right time" in history. God knew in advance and utilized it for maximum spread of the gospel. It was the "ideal path" (through history) for the gentile world to hear the gospel.

Jews ---> Hebrew
Gentiles ---> Greek; English; [other languages also]

See the pattern?

There is a reason for how all of this transpired. God knew what He was doing.

 

[Kroogz]

And then along comes another and claims non-KJ onlyists do not believe the Bible. It really gets ridiculous.

While they make more assertions, none of which they have any way of knowing the truth of.

Well, you know how it is. Now I have to start researching this movement a bit. Looks like you are familiar with this KJV only stuff!

An article I found:

It is perhaps ironic that the KJV 1611 translators themselves, if they were alive today, would not survive for long in the "KJV-Only" camp. They spoke out about the folly of relying on only one reading of the biblical text to the exclusion of other possible renderings. In fact, they criticized Pope Sixtus V (1585-1590) because he didn't allow variant readings in the margins of his version of the Latin Vulgate. They wrote, "They that are wise had rather have their judgments at liberty in differences of readings, than to be captivated to one, when it might be the other."

The KJV 1611 translators also encouraged the use of a "variety of translations" in order to ascertain the meaning of Scripture. Here's what they said: "Therefore as S. Augustine saith, that variety of Translations is profitable for the finding out of the sense of the Scriptures: so diversity of signification and sense in the margin, where the text is not so clear, must needs do good, yea, is necessary, as we are persuaded." It is clear that the KJV-Only advocates make claims about the KJV that even the translators themselves did not make.
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[GaryA]

#4. In Genesis 3:16, the ESV (Which is one of the most popular Modern Translations) Doctrinally Changes the Nature of the Truth in the KJV by Saying that Eve's (the wife's) Desire is Contrary To Her Husband's.

A "totally messed up" translation of that verse...