Hey brother. I guess I'm never bothered personally by the way someone behaves towards me, and particularly so by the world. But it is counterintuitive to me as a Christian to treat unbelievers poorly, regardless of their demeanor.I agree, she would benefit as would we, but she is just here to answer a few general questions, a conversation to get understanding goes both ways, unless i missed a few posts, I do not recall aviva asking any questions about our faith.
What shocks me is her arrogance towards many if not all here, people ask nicely and she makes fun of people, plenty of examples above in this thread I wish she would ask us a few questions but she voiced that she has no interest ,It is a shame as we want to prove to her Jesus IS the Messiah but she does not seem to want to listen.
If she would in sincerity ask pertinent question about our faith I would gladly agree to answer, I could prove to her Christ is the Messiah with the old testament alone but will aviva ask in this thread so we can have a real conversation both ways?.
She is the only one who knows.
Blessings Cameron
I agree, is there any post of mine that you would say treated her poorly?Hey brother. I guess I'm never bothered personally by the way someone behaves towards me, and particularly so by the world. But it is counterintuitive to me as a Christian to treat unbelievers poorly, regardless of their demeanor.
Suppose she came to your church. Wouldn't you bend over backwards to manifest God's love to her? If she behaved as you have said there, wouldn't that just reinforce all the more the need to act lovingly?
I don't mean to come off holier-than-thou. I'm often very unloving. But why she believes she came to the site and why she's actually here may be very different from God's perspective.
Multiplied grace.
I think Aviva is doing great so far.
Aviva, let's switch gears a bit and tell us about how you met your Christian husband. I like to hear love stories and i watch a lot of Hallmark movies.
I am curious about something....
What do you think about Yeshua ? Not the obvious stuff like was he the Messiah, but a little deeper. I assume you would deny his resurrection? How would you account for his teachings, were they inspired? What about his claim to be the son of God, was he delusional or absolutely crazy? We know from history many people were inspired to greatness by his teachings, how would you account for this? His impact on western civilization would appear to greatly surpass that of any other person from his time forward, is this just happenstance?
Sorry my question is rambling. Feel free to answer with as little or as much as you choose.
When I was little my parents moved from Israel to Ireland. We met when we were 11 in the same class and got married when we were 18 to the dismay of out families. Unfortunately he died in an accident when his job overworked him and he fell asleep at the wheel on the way home.
It doesn't matter what I believe, but I do believe she thought so. I'm for covering people's sins. I don't always do it, but I always wish I had.I agree, is there any post of mine that you would say treated her poorly?
When I disagree with someone I like to seek out an unbiased observer. That is what Matthew 18 teaches.It doesn't matter what I believe, but I do believe she thought so. I'm for covering people's sins. I don't always do it, but I always wish I had.
That certainly does not come as a surprise... Considering Christians aren't supposed to marry outside the faith; and a Jewish woman giving herself to a man who is a "blasphemous idolater" (like myself)!? SACRILIGE!When I was little my parents moved from Israel to Ireland. We met when we were 11 in the same class and got married when we were 18 to the dismay of out families.
That certainly does not come as a surprise... Considering Christians aren't supposed to marry outside the faith; and a Jewish woman giving herself to a man who is a "blasphemous idolater" (like myself)!? SACRILIGE!
Seriously, though... doesn't this show that you guys are putting yourselves before God? I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything.... but... your families kind of have a point, you know? Don't you care if your sons turn out to be "idolaters" like me?
A good policy. In that case, I believe there was a better way to make your point.When I disagree with someone I like to seek out an unbiased observer. That is what Matthew 18 teaches.
This is what I doing Cameron, bending backwards, sometimes you have say hard truths for people to listen, this is what I am doing here. I do want for everyone to know the one truth, Jesus is our Messiah and Savior, I want also for her to know Christ and be saved, not for me but for her.Hey brother. I guess I'm never bothered personally by the way someone behaves towards me, and particularly so by the world. But it is counterintuitive to me as a Christian to treat unbelievers poorly, regardless of their demeanor.
Suppose she came to your church. Wouldn't you bend over backwards to manifest God's love to her? If she behaved as you have said there, wouldn't that just reinforce all the more the need to act lovingly?
I don't mean to come off holier-than-thou. I'm often very unloving. But why she believes she came to the site and why she's actually here may be very different from God's perspective.
Multiplied grace.
I get that. But she, in her mind, didn't come to seek salvation. So those who have no interest in Christ outwardly often respond over time to the Christ in you without knowing why. A long time ago a man said to me...always be preaching the gospel...use words if you need to.This is what I doing Cameron, bending backwards, sometimes you have say hard truths for people to listen, this is what I am doing here. I do want for everyone to know the one truth, Jesus is our Messiah and Savior, I want also for her to know Christ and be saved, not for me but for her.
Blessings Cameron
I'm not interested in listening to the Jewish teachings formulated by hypocritical writers and Pharisees.
I can see the argument for both really. There are numerous examples of sins being references as "greater" for sure. However, when we analyze what sin actually is and does, we see that all sin separates us from God. Because no unclean thing can enter the Kingdom of God, God sent His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ, to atone for the sins of mankind. This means that if I committed even the smallest of sins (lets say I drove faster than the speed limit), I would be just as unclean and worthy to enter God's Kingdom as someone who committed genocide on a group of people without the Savior's ultimate sacrifice.
I know you aren't a Christian and do not accept Jesus Christ as your Savior but I just wanted to explain the other side of the argument from a Christian perspective. What appears to be in contradiction on the surface, isn't so for me.
I personally lump sin into two categories:
1.) Forgivable sin
2.) Unforgiveable sin
God’s Laws are concrete and unforgiving outside of His Son’s Sacrifice.I answered here because I didn't want to derail the Trump worship/Biden slander thread.
Nowhere in the Tanakh does G-D make such a decree that all sins are equal or speeding is the same as genocide. G-D specified differing degrees and punishments from mild to severe. He also never said that even the mildest sin was unforgivable and one can't go to "heaven". Show me in the Torah where he ever said anything like this please.
Hashem has said he will show mercy to the merciful and will forgive those who sincerely ask.
God’s Laws are concrete and unforgiving outside of His Son’s Sacrifice.
Only the Levites were allowed to touch the Ark.
The sin of disobeying God’s Word resulted in DEATH for this guy. He didn’t kill anybody or commit adultery, and even his motive for disobeying God was by human standards noble.
Accept Jesus and live! There is no sacrifice YOU can make or good deed you can do to save yourself.
1 Chronicles 13:9-10
New King James Version
9 And when they came to Chidon’s threshing floor, Uzza put out his hand to hold the ark, for the oxen stumbled. 10 Then the anger of the Lordwas aroused against Uzza, and He struck him because he put his hand to the ark; and he died there before God.
I answered here because I didn't want to derail the Trump worship/Biden slander thread.
Nowhere in the Tanakh does G-D make such a decree that all sins are equal or speeding is the same as genocide. G-D specified differing degrees and punishments from mild to severe. He also never said that even the mildest sin was unforgivable and one can't go to "heaven". Show me in the Torah where he ever said anything like this please.
Hashem has said he will show mercy to the merciful and will forgive those who sincerely ask.