Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,337
6,623
113
I think it would be helpful if you gave us the line that Biden or Hillary would have had to cross that would cause you to not vote for them?
I wonder why ResidentAlien never answered this question?
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,337
6,623
113
Even Joe Biden realizes the impeachment of Trump was a bunch of lies

Biden lashes out over impeachment inquiry allegations: 'A bunch of lies'

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...over-impeachment-inquiry-lies#google_vignette

Oops, as strange as this may seem, he is referring to the impeachment inquiry of himself. So far everything we have seen is facts confirmed by everyone.

Granted when he said that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation, that was a lie.

When he said he had nothing to do with Hunter's business partners, that was a lie.

So I suppose many of the allegations made in the impeachment inquiry is about all the lies he told.

Jeremiah 50:34 Their Redeemer is strong; the Lord of hosts is his name: he shall throughly plead their cause, that he may give rest to the land, and disquiet the inhabitants of Babylon.

35 A sword is upon the Chaldeans, saith the Lord, and upon the inhabitants of Babylon, and upon her princes, and upon her wise men.

36 A sword is upon the liars; and they shall dote: a sword is upon her mighty men; and they shall be dismayed.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,337
6,623
113
Job 19:19 My close friends detest me. Those I loved have turned against me.

Joe Biden Freaks Out When Asked About Payments He Received From Hunter Biden, Shuts Down Presser

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/1...ealings-that-even-cnn-burns-him-down-n2167242

I'm hesitant to say the walls are closing in because Democrats have a political plot armor, but it's undeniable that things are getting bad for Joe Biden. He can't just keep shutting down questions on this without inviting a backlash from even those in the press who are predisposed to defend him. Further complicating his situation is that there are many Democrats who do not want him to be the nominee in 2024. Every piece of bad news provides fodder for those trying to force him out.

I think most Democrats realize that this is only going to get worse as more and more is uncovered. To ride with Biden in 2024 is to invite very bad odds of winning the presidency. I expect the internal drama to get much worse in the near term.
 
Dec 9, 2011
14,105
1,797
113
Looking at the things Joe Biden has said

Joe Biden Used Email Aliases To Correspond With Hunter’s Business Partner 327 Times

https://thefederalist.com/2023/12/0...pond-with-hunters-business-partner-327-times/

Newly unearthed emails obtained by House investigators reveal that Joe Biden used multiple email pseudonyms to communicate with his son’s business associate more than 300 times in the years prior to becoming president. The revelations further disprove Joe’s claims that he had no knowledge of or involvement with his family’s business affairs.

Acquired by the House Ways and Means Committee, the 56 pages of evidence released on Tuesday included 327 emails from 2010-2019 “showing Joe Biden’s correspondence – via email aliases – with a key Hunter Biden business associate,” with a majority of these communications taking place during Biden’s time as vice president. As The Federalist previously reported, the National Archives has identified thousands of records containing the pseudonyms Joe used while serving as President Obama’s second-in-command.

For those who have not been following this story, everyone has confirmed that Hunter Biden was selling access to Joe Biden. That of course is a crime, but is it fraud (was Hunter scamming people) or was it legit. If he was truly selling access to Joe Biden then of course Joe Biden is involved, it is a felony, and might even be treason. Joe Biden's defense has been that "he never had anything to do with Hunter Biden's business affairs", in other words, Hunter Biden is a piece of S**t to be wiped off Joe's shoe, but he is innocent. 327 emails proves it is a lie that Joe had nothing to do with them, and using an alias to communicate indicates intent to commit a crime. There have already been confirmed cases where Hunter's business partners came to the Whitehouse and met Joe, the argument there was Joe simply came in and shook a few hands and left. Meeting a friend of Hunter's is not proof of wrong doing, these emails are proof.

Deuteronomy 33:29 Happy art thou, O Israel: who is like unto thee, O people saved by the Lord, the shield of thy help, and who is the sword of thy excellency! and thine enemies shall be found liars unto thee; and thou shalt tread upon their high places.
Do you think Trump Is GODly or dEvilish?
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,337
6,623
113
Do you think Trump Is GODly or dEvilish?
I am not a judge, I am a witness. I think that Trump and Biden will both have to appear before the judge for the things they have done in this life.

I think the ties between Trump and Freemasons and those that worship Baal are quite evident.

But I also think that those who are the most devilish are vehemently opposed to Trump.

So it is confusing, and therefore I defer to the one before whom our hearts are laid bare to judge.

One thing I am clear on and something that Trump is also clear on, he is not coming back as a savior but as retribution.

One thing I strongly believe is that it is God that raises up kings and kingdoms and God that brings to naught kings and kingdoms. If Trump is used to bring to naught the US swamp, then it will be God who is using him.

Samson used the jawbone of an ass and God used Cyrus.

So when I listen to Trump I don't know, but when I listen to MSNBC my spirit is screaming "Witchcraft, liars, hypocrites"

I heard one guy on MSNBC talking about how Christians should be holy, people who are spending their time in the Bible, and in prayer and not being involved in politics. The question I had was why was he being paid by MSNBC to be a talking head concerning politics if he felt this way? The hypocrisy of this guy condemning others for speaking out on political issues was off the charts.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,337
6,623
113
There is absolutely no line for the Democrats. Are you surprised?
So let me get this straight, a democrat would support a president even if he was flying to Epstein island? OK, bad example, even if he let men into the girl's bathroom? Oops, sorry, bad example. Even if he were cutting deals with Ukraine to protect human traffickers, taking payments from the mayor of Moscow, equipping the Taliban military, and snorting cocaine in the Whitehouse? Wow, you are right, there is no line for Democrats.
 

Cameron143

Well-known member
Mar 1, 2022
18,895
6,489
113
62
So let me get this straight, a democrat would support a president even if he was flying to Epstein island? OK, bad example, even if he let men into the girl's bathroom? Oops, sorry, bad example. Even if he were cutting deals with Ukraine to protect human traffickers, taking payments from the mayor of Moscow, equipping the Taliban military, and snorting cocaine in the Whitehouse? Wow, you are right, there is no line for Democrats.
White lines.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,337
6,623
113
Trump says he thinks 150 million Americans would support strong borders, low interest rates, low inflation, good economy, and freedom of speech. But as MSNBC says, this is because they love this country too much. In the last election we had 156 million people vote, so if 150 million vote for Trump that would mean that Biden only gets 6 million? I suppose.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jcXzGdGK4gc
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,337
6,623
113
Nah, the democrats are totally stoopid... they'll make it look like he had a heart attack which the CIA has actually done with political leaders in other countries they they did not want to come to power.

There will be no way to prove he was whacked and even if there was the repubs ain't gonna do nuthin... it's just means we will have a much more qualified nominee for the GOP which will be Desantis.

Trump had his opportunity and he got whipped by the liberals... they made a monkee out of him!

View attachment 258465
Latest poll concerning the Republican Primary -- Trump 74%, Desantis 14%. Any decent candidate would drop out of the race if they were 60 percentage points behind the leader.
 
Dec 9, 2011
14,105
1,797
113
Latest poll concerning the Republican Primary -- Trump 74%, Desantis 14%. Any decent candidate would drop out of the race if they were 60 percentage points behind the leader.
Looks like Trump all the way.Looks like they would just dropout If they’re going to keep running like that. People don’t respect candidates like that.A candidate that Is afraid to go after the leader? IMO they are waiting to see If they can get Trump supporter Favor If Trump decides not to run but IMO that Is WEAK and not the way a leader should be.They better start Listening to Chris Christie.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,337
6,623
113
Looks like Trump all the way.Looks like they would just dropout If they’re going to keep running like that. People don’t respect candidates like that.A candidate that Is afraid to go after the leader? IMO they are waiting to see If they can get Trump supporter Favor If Trump decides not to run but IMO that Is WEAK and not the way a leader should be.They better start Listening to Chris Christie.
I think the powers that be are looking for two different options. Is there a 3rd party candidate that would take enough votes from Trump so that he would lose? Does not appear to be, on the contrary it seems Kennedy will take votes from Biden.

Option 2, can they force Trump to take Desantis or Haley as Vice president? That also seems to be a no go.
 

Mem

Senior Member
Sep 23, 2014
7,125
2,156
113
I wonder whom Trump might cho0se as his running mate.
The debates might, indeed, actually be a review panel of his options.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,337
6,623
113
I wonder whom Trump might cho0se as his running mate.
The debates might, indeed, actually be a review panel of his options.
Tucker Carlson is immensely popular and knows how to deal with the press. Tucker can speak to Californians and liberals.

Nikki Haley and Candace Owens will almost certainly get key jobs in the administration and will also be campaigning for Trump.
 

gb9

Senior Member
Jan 18, 2011
12,284
6,656
113
Looks like Trump all the way.Looks like they would just dropout If they’re going to keep running like that. People don’t respect candidates like that.A candidate that Is afraid to go after the leader? IMO they are waiting to see If they can get Trump supporter Favor If Trump decides not to run but IMO that Is WEAK and not the way a leader should be.They better start Listening to Chris Christie.
and thus is the reason that we are in the shape we are in- disliking trump so much that one is willing to support far worse policies.

policies over personality.

all the neocons want war. trump wants peace.

all the neocons don't care about the open border. trump built a wall.

and don't even bother them with the gay/trans agenda being pushed on kids, most of them don't even acknowledge that it exists.
 

Mem

Senior Member
Sep 23, 2014
7,125
2,156
113
Tucker Carlson is immensely popular and knows how to deal with the press. Tucker can speak to Californians and liberals.

Nikki Haley and Candace Owens will almost certainly get key jobs in the administration and will also be campaigning for Trump.
A peculiarity in the Trump game is that one could easily win a trick with what appears to be a low card.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,337
6,623
113
A peculiarity in the Trump game is that one could easily win a trick with what appears to be a low card.
That is because trump card trumps what appear to be high cards.
 
Dec 9, 2011
14,105
1,797
113
Tucker Carlson is immensely popular and knows how to deal with the press. Tucker can speak to Californians and liberals.

Nikki Haley and Candace Owens will almost certainly get key jobs in the administration and will also be campaigning for Trump.
Candace Owen’s,Why?