Why would I say that? I do many things commanded by Him. Those "works" just don't participate in my salvation, rather, they're a result of it.
Is Baptism in water a work or a command? Is it necessary for salvation?
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because you said obeying a Command is works.
it's not WORKS you are doing, it's WORKS God is doing but using you to do them.
so, why not Obey All His Commands, when it is not you doing the works EVER?
it's Obeying the WILL of the Father!
No, it is not!
it's NOT YOUR WORKS, so you are not doing a work at all.
you're just being a Vessel God uses to DO HIS WORKS, never yours!!
how can someone say, God did ALL the WORKS for my Salvation and then think Obeying God is now you doing the works?
You are destroying your prior Doctrine.
You are destroying your prior Doctrine.
Hi I’m new here and have been following this thread. i want to relay something that occurred between our local churches, we have been having a “Prayer and Praise” once a month including all of our local churches. Most of the Pastors did some talking, along with our worship teams with music. We had planned in Communion together that evening. One of the pastors (not mine) stood up and admonished that anyone participating in communion should be baptized before partaking in communion. There were many attending this event, that were afraid to partake in communion because of this admonishment, even as they were looking forward to participating. it did Not feel right or correct to me. I would like to hear opinions on this.
thanx for letting me join this Christian forum. God Bless You all.
thanx for letting me join this Christian forum. God Bless You all.
this is why Calvin was not Inspired by God.
he truly was a Legalist!
it's like saying, God, the Creator of ALL things...needs me to do this....
He can make a Donkey speak, but, you think He needs you hahahahahahahahahaha
that is as butt-backwards as it gets.,.,
You're the one who thinks He needs you. God can't get you there without your help. Keep trying though... maybe you'll eventually get there.
you cannot love God genuinely for what He's done for you.
but you can only do it in the form of a Works?
then, you are NOT Saved!
but you can only do it in the form of a Works?
then, you are NOT Saved!
I love God genuinely BECAUSE OF what He's done for me. If you're relying on loving God genuinely before you are saved, you'll never get there because it'll never be genuine enough. Only the God working in you can do that.
Here comes the bearing false witness part. It was just a matter of time.
i am not talking before Salvation, and never eluded to that.
that is you moving the goalpost like you do whenever you know you are wrong.
This is not me moving the goal post. I'm not wrong, you just keep misrepresenting me. If you're talking after salvation, then yes, I can love God genuinely because he is doing that work in me. No works (including following commands) can save me or keep me saved. God does that.
Since I was Born again in 1963, and received the Holy Spirit (as all Born again Christians do), as the result of Southern Baptist outreach, on a Wednesday night in my Bedroom, the following Sunday in the Evening service, I was Baptised by immersion in the three titles.
I wasn't any MORE "saved", and nothing changed, except that I was wetter, and had to change clothes. But I felt that I had been obedient to the Bible indication that a Saved person SHOULD BE baptized. So I was.
Simple as that.
A local Assembly of God Church in Red OAk, TX held a "SPLASH PARTY" a month ago, and baptized about 150 people on profession of faith, in two tanks during morning service.