Why MAGA is the greatest threat to American Democracy

[ZNP]

TEMPE, Arizona, Sept 28 (Reuters) - President Joe Biden launched a wide-ranging attack on Republican Donald Trump on Thursday, warning that his predecessor is a threat to American democracy and drawing a sharp distinction between himself and his likely 2024 election opponent.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-warn-threat-democracy-trump-honor-mccain-2023-09-28/

Too many for too long have not taken this seriously, but view it as a joke. By now everyone, on both sides of the political divide, should realize they are deadly serious about this. I think if we would carefully and soberly understand why Biden and so many others are so worried about Trump we also would understand what the issue is.

Consider this report from October 2, 2023. "Trump is the greatest threat to democracy" Joe Biden.

https://theindependent.sg/trump-is-greatest-threat-to-democracy-joe-biden/

We had a war going on in Ukraine where threats were flying back and forth of it going nuclear, we were five days from October 7th, we had 100k dying from Fentanyl, we had 8 million illegal aliens enter the country since Biden became president and yet he is telling us that Trump is the greatest threat to Democracy. We had a Mueller investigation, two impeachments, and 91 indictments. My point is this is not simply empty rhetoric, they mean it. So in this thread I want to examine why? Instead of scoffing, mocking and ridicule I would like to examine exactly what is the threat they are worried about. Obviously it has to do with Trump's campaigning, the MAGA movement, and what he might do if he became president.

There are many valid concerns, if you were involved with Epstein you would have a valid concern. But it is hard to believe the entire Democratic party and the RINO's could be motivated by that. So I can see that as a factor, but not the whole answer. Likewise I could see a few impeachments removing some people from office would certainly be a concern to a few people, but again, I can't see how that could be the whole answer. To me the answer cannot simply be be that they are all either rabid pro abortion, pedophiles or corrupt bureaucrats. For those that would be directly impacted in those areas I can see what is motivating them, but what about the tens of millions of Democrats? So this is what I want to look at, the whole picture, what has everyone so united against him that they are willing to throw out the constitution to gag him and get him off the ballot for President. A big part of this picture is what is it about Biden that they like? It is not simply that they are united against Trump they are also united behind the Biden administration (they may not like Joe Biden personally, but they are definitely united behind his administration).

 

[ZNP]

Joe Biden is all about peace and security.

I realize that statement is very hard to swallow for the majority of Americans, but we are not talking about the opinion of MAGA, we are talking about the opinion of those who are strongly united behind the Biden Administration. We will dig down on this outrageous statement, but first we need a little background on the globalists.

1. This week we saw 400 of our biggest corporate overlords giving Xi a standing ovation in San Francisco. Coca cola gets 34% of their revenue from sales in the US, McDonalds gets 39% of their revenue from sales in the US. The point is if the world goes to a one world government all of these multinational corporations stand to profit. It will cut the red tape and all the various regulations and taxes they get hit with in various countries. Even if it costs them a little business in the US they can weather that. So don't be naive to think these people are "Americans", they aren't, they are globalists. They worship money and power, and a one world government will give them more of both.

2. So how can you say Biden stands for peace, all we have seen since he got into office is the US heading straight into World War 3. Well, first of all, we have not had any war in the US and second, it isn't the children of those living in the suburbs that send their kids to foreign wars. So for the Biden supporters it is peace. They are not "Americans" they are globalists. If some deplorable's kid goes off to war and dies or gets crippled that is no skin off their back. I'm not making this up. Every time you have a war they give you nasty references to the people you are at war with so you can feel OK about killing them. We did this to the Germans, to the Japanese, to the Italians, etc. They are calling the supporters of Trump "Deplorable", "irredeemable" and "domestic terrorists". They now say they are the "biggest threat to democracy". These are terms we used on Germany, Japan and the Russians.

3. OK, but why attack these people since they are going over and fighting the battles that these "elites" would never fight. The only way they can keep this industrial military complex running is with these people. Well this is why they have brought in 8 million illegals. If you complain they can replace you. Also, with drones and robots and AI they are planning on replacing quite a few. If you accept neuralink you can still be a valuable warrior, but if you won't no big deal, their are 8 million new immigrants who will. The problem with the deplorables is they don't know their place, they don't view their betters as their betters. So they will negotiate from strength, it will be a "take it or leave it" offer.

4. So how does Biden stand for security, by every metric the economy is horrible. You only say that because you are paying for it. The US economy is the greatest place in the world for the elites, they can make billions and then all the saps, the taxpayers underwrite it. Show me another country that can contemplate a $1-2 trillion dollar deficit each year? OK, but why attack MAGA if they are underwriting the debt? As long as you pay without question you are useful, but the minute you want to audit things like FTX, the $140 billion sent to Ukraine, and the US election, then you are no longer useful. This $33 trillion debt is your debt, not theirs. Look, in the 2008 mortgage meltdown the banks wrote illegal mortgages that violated the fiduciary responsibility. Thousands, maybe even tens of thousands of Americans involved in that crisis should have gone to jail and received felonies on their record. Yet they did not prosecute a single person. Millions of Americans lost their homes to these crooks and then they took your tax dollars to bail them out which they then gave to themselves in big bonuses. Get real, they will take everything you have and then kick you to the curb, that is obvious.

Peace and Security refers to those who are getting rich off of Biden's policies. War is profitable. Cheap labor is profitable. They are not paying the price tag, you are.

Now they will fight to the death to keep that going because the minute it gets cut off will be the minute the US becomes France during the French Revolution. They understand what is at stake.

This is why Trump is the greatest risk to them. They aren't worried about terrorists, your kids will keep them safe. They aren't worried about the US dollar collapsing, they have real assets. What they are worried about is being held accountable for the crimes they committed.

 

[Gojira]

TEMPE, Arizona, Sept 28 (Reuters) - President Joe Biden launched a wide-ranging attack on Republican Donald Trump on Thursday, warning that his predecessor is a threat to American democracy and drawing a sharp distinction between himself and his likely 2024 election opponent.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-warn-threat-democracy-trump-honor-mccain-2023-09-28/

Too many for too long have not taken this seriously, but view it as a joke. By now everyone, on both sides of the political divide, should realize they are deadly serious about this. I think if we would carefully and soberly understand why Biden and so many others are so worried about Trump we also would understand what the issue is.

Consider this report from October 2, 2023. "Trump is the greatest threat to democracy" Joe Biden.

https://theindependent.sg/trump-is-greatest-threat-to-democracy-joe-biden/

We had a war going on in Ukraine where threats were flying back and forth of it going nuclear, we were five days from October 7th, we had 100k dying from Fentanyl, we had 8 million illegal aliens enter the country since Biden became president and yet he is telling us that Trump is the greatest threat to Democracy. We had a Mueller investigation, two impeachments, and 91 indictments. My point is this is not simply empty rhetoric, they mean it. So in this thread I want to examine why? Instead of scoffing, mocking and ridicule I would like to examine exactly what is the threat they are worried about. Obviously it has to do with Trump's campaigning, the MAGA movement, and what he might do if he became president.

There are many valid concerns, if you were involved with Epstein you would have a valid concern. But it is hard to believe the entire Democratic party and the RINO's could be motivated by that. So I can see that as a factor, but not the whole answer. Likewise I could see a few impeachments removing some people from office would certainly be a concern to a few people, but again, I can't see how that could be the whole answer. To me the answer cannot simply be be that they are all either rabid pro abortion, pedophiles or corrupt bureaucrats. For those that would be directly impacted in those areas I can see what is motivating them, but what about the tens of millions of Democrats? So this is what I want to look at, the whole picture, what has everyone so united against him that they are willing to throw out the constitution to gag him and get him off the ballot for President. A big part of this picture is what is it about Biden that they like? It is not simply that they are united against Trump they are also united behind the Biden administration (they may not like Joe Biden personally, but they are definitely united behind his administration).

I did not (can not) read your entire thread, but I'll post a few cents and you can take them for what they're worth.

Trump represents the constitution, and is also against global "governance". The Left is the opposite. Trump -- and those who vote for him -- generally speaking, oppose the pagan fascism the "progressive" wants to usher in. That's why he's a "threat". He is actually a warrior for liberty -- as the founders defined it, not using the lascivious definition the Left prefers.

I'm sure your point goes deeper than that, but that's my quick take.

Of course this has a deeper spiritual origin, and I think we need to focus our prayers on that origin.

 

[ZNP]

I did not (can not) read your entire thread, but I'll post a few cents and you can take them for what they're worth.

Trump represents the constitution, and is also against global "governance". The Left is the opposite. Trump -- and those who vote for him -- generally speaking, oppose the pagan fascism the "progressive" wants to usher in. That's why he's a "threat". He is actually a warrior for liberty -- as the founders defined it, not using the lascivious definition the Left prefers.

I'm sure your point goes deeper than that, but that's my quick take.

Of course this has a deeper spiritual origin, and I think we need to focus our prayers on that origin.

Let's see if this is more than an exercise

⚡️ALERT: WASHINGTON, DC - Exercise Alert: “Please Do Not Be ALARMED If You See Emergency Vehicles”

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Would you be ok with Donald Trump becoming our president with an unlimited time limit to serve as president In office with Some changes to the constitution and maybe even becoming a dictator and would you rather this than the system we have now?


This would be a good poll question.

 

[ZNP]

Would you be ok with Donald Trump becoming our president with an unlimited time limit to serve as president In office with Some changes to the constitution and maybe even becoming a dictator and would you rather this than the system we have now?


This would be a good poll question.

Or are you ok with Obama acting as president from the basement of the Whitehouse and even becoming a dictator, weaponizing the DOJ against the American people, designating 75 million Americans domestic terrorists, throwing open our borders, while bankrupting our country?

 

[ZNP]

I have been reliving the horror of the January 6th insurrection now that the footage is released. Terrified cops opening doors, holding them open, shaking hands and directing the protestors to wherever they were going. Adam Kinzinger blubbering, AOC who was only a half mile away cowering in the bathroom stall, and Nancy Pelosi's daughter who was fortuitously doing a documentary film of the capital that day walking through the halls as Nancy and Chuck Schumer consult with the capital police (oops, apparently Nancy said she never talked with them).

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Or are you ok with Obama acting as president from the basement of the Whitehouse and even becoming a dictator, weaponizing the DOJ against the American people, designating 75 million Americans domestic terrorists, throwing open our borders, while bankrupting our country?

Obama?Did you mean to say Biden?

 

[ZNP]

Obama?Did you mean to say Biden?

Nope

 

[gb9]

Nope

just go with o'biden, covers both bases...

 

[7thMoon]

Would you be ok with Donald Trump becoming our president with an unlimited time limit to serve as president In office with Some changes to the constitution and maybe even becoming a dictator and would you rather this than the system we have now?


This would be a good poll question.

Trump has not said he will change the constitution. He isn't a savior, but a figurehead. The Democrats started going after his business; running for office was his response.

I don't believe anyone wants Trump to change the constitution.

 

[gb9]

Would you be ok with Donald Trump becoming our president with an unlimited time limit to serve as president In office with Some changes to the constitution and maybe even becoming a dictator and would you rather this than the system we have now?


This would be a good poll question.

so, tell me again how you do not watch or listen to mainstream media..

because what you just posted about trump being a dictator for life is 100% a c n n, m s n b c talking point.

 

[Gojira]

Trump has defended the constitution in particular, western civilization in general. The American Left is on a rampage against both, and it's well past time that the Body of Christ in the west woke up to that fact.

 

[ZNP]

How did the institutions of power turn against the American people?

I believe out of 12 people you can get a traitor like Judas, but they obviously have much more than 1/12th of the American people backing them. That is what I want to know, how?

I was watching Mika on Morning Joe cry about how terrible these Nazi sympathizers were (MAGA). It was clear to me she can see the end of the US and instead of ascribing the worst motives to her I want to look at this as though she knows what she is talking about.

I think it is like playing chess. You make a bad move, but at the time it doesn't look like a bad move, but after that you only have bad choices and keep making moves that lead to a total loss because you have no other choice.

Ultimately I think the bad move was to support globalism.

1. There is an economic motivation, I imagine all multinational corporations support globalism. It is very easy to try and justify this choice if it comes with a hefty payday. So a lot of politicians probably said "these are Americans too, they employ hundreds of thousands, etc., etc". NAFTA was a very clear step towards globalism. Keeping China as a MFN is a clear step towards globalism.

2. Then there are the pro abortionists. Clearly a globalist government will embrace abortion.

3. Then there are these climate change cult members who would support a globalist government over the US.

I think others like Mika and some of these politicians were sold on the fact that this is a done deal. The US represents 5% of the world's population, MAGA represents 2.5% of the world's population. So they see this as inevitable, there are only two ways this goes down, the cows walk into the slaughterhouse without any issue or else they get gunned down in the pen. Why else would they call MAGA the biggest threat to "American democracy". They know if you don't go along and pretend we have a democracy that the other option is a war that destroys the US. I think they have already been given the ultimatum, Xi, Putin and the rest of the world is not going to wait for Trump to be reelected.

Now once you have gone down that road, and taken bribes, and been enriched by these traitors you can't change your mind. It is like being in the Mafia. You can't get squeamish because someone gets whacked. Also, those who do express even a little bit of squeamishness they whack you as a warning to everyone else.

It is the only way I can explain Biden not being impeached already, or Trump being impeached twice, with a three year Mueller investigation and 91 indictments. How is Hunter Biden not in jail, this is the only explanation I can come up with. How do they not investigate the cocaine in the Whitehouse? No other explanation. How are they using SWAT teams to go smash down the doors of pastors? This is all I can come up with. The die is cast, no turning back.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Nope

I can’t understand what you are saying.

 

[ZNP]

I can’t understand what you are saying.

You can posit a hypothetical situation in which Trump becomes a dictator but not one in which Obama does?

 

[seed_time_harvest]

so, tell me again how you do not watch or listen to mainstream media..

because what you just posted about trump being a dictator for life is 100% a c n n, m s n b c talking point.

It was a valid question would you or not be ok with him staying In power beyond the norm If a vote were to be taken that asked “shall Donald Trump remain President until death?

I’m just curious because people love him So much!

 

[seed_time_harvest]

You can posit a hypothetical situation in which Trump becomes a dictator but not one in which Obama does?

I know how you feel about because you are honest,I was wondering how you feel about Donald Trump when It comes to that question,would you choose Donald Trump over the now constitution.

Whether It be Joe Biden Donald Trump or anyone I think the constitution that we Now have should rule.

 

[ZNP]

It was a valid question would you or not be ok with him staying In power beyond the norm If a vote were to be taken that asked “shall Donald Trump remain President until death?

I’m just curious because people love him So much!

It was a valid question would you or not be ok with Obama staying In power beyond the norm If a vote were to be taken that asked “shall Obama remain President until death?

I’m just curious because people love him So much!

 

[ZNP]

I know how you feel about because you are honest,I was wondering how you feel about Donald Trump when It comes to that question,would you choose Donald Trump over the now constitution.

Whether It be Joe Biden Donald Trump or anyone I think the constitution that we Now have should rule.

Yes, I support the constitution. If you want to change the constitution it requires a 2/3 vote.