The Glasgow razor boy and eternal security
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absolutely ... and it is written especially to the "angel" that is the minister. churches and denominations grow lukewarm and cold ... they wither and die.
So let me get this straight.
God chose to have me born in a small town in the central United States. Where I have christian parents, was raised up in Gods word. The town is a christian town. Everyone goes to church and knows each other. But since God did not chose me to spiritual life. I will never come to him, even if I wanted to
And another person is born in the inner city where my family and friends are unbelievers, where the churches have been burnt to the ground, There are no christians and he has no access to the word. But since God chose him he will somehow be enlightened and be saved..
I have GOOD NEWS for you Oy
YOU will not stand for judgement at the Great White Throne. Jesus has already been judged, found guilty [on our behalf] sentenced and executed [on our behalf]
We are passed over from judgement to life.
I am sure we have our own judgement from the Lord which will determine rewards or losses.
Same here.
I also do not believe a person who was rescued from a raging ocean where they had no hope. And could not save themselves. But they chose to allow someone else to save them
would want to go back to that raging ocean where they were dead.
Jesus said in John 4 why they left
they did not believe (all of them) and one of them was the devil
They did nto lose salvation, they never had it
Amen,
Like when God vomited Israel out under Babylon. Many were still saved, Daniel was a great man od God enslaved.
He took the nations of Israel not the induviduals salvation
The local churches are part of the body of Christ
when a local church rebels as a church, God will take his lamp stand from them, and they will become powerless
all false doctrines correspond to idolatry.
Remember Naaman the leper how he was wroth and rid away in a rage when the Prophet said wash in Jordan [the river of God]
he said "are not Pharpar and Abana [which mean Human skill and human ability] better than all the dirty waters of Israel?"
... folks get angry when you speak against their idols.
Again
Can you show me where free will is an idol
Just calling it a false doctrine does not prove it is false doctrine
That is a very good illustration, that fella in the raging ocean is plumb out of everything, his strength is gone, his will to resist, he has to entirely entrust himself to another if he is to be saved.
I don't know what other say to the Lord when they pray for salvation but I know I said "God I can't do this, You will have to do it all"
To receive Jesus as LORD is to SUBMIT. God has conquered us with love.
no no no false doctrine is an idol.
And if somebody is saying their will [+ God of course, He plays some part] but it was their will then that is to make their will an idol.
Sadly, many chose, like the children of Israel when God had moses lift a serpent on the pole, to continue to think they were ok, they did not need saved or they could save themselves. And rejected the one sent to save them
You still can not show me
I can will to recieve the gift of God and be saved
or i can will to reject the gift of God and stay unsaved.
That is not an idol.. this makes no sense whatseoever
You can will? that's what I say is an idol.
It is the trick the devil played in Eden "you'll be like God, he said, knowing good and evil" he said In other words you can choose.
But Jesus said "no man can come to Me unless the Father draw him"
Who could look? could the Egyptians? the Amelikites? the Anakin? could the English look and be healed?
Yes,’
in the same conversation, he said that whoever sees and believes will be saved.
We will not believe unless God draws us I agree. He must take us to our knees or we will never believe
but we still must chose to say yes lord, I want your salvation. Or no lord. I do not want it.
Who could look?
Anyone who was there. Did they all look?
Why did the ones who did look look? What caused the ones who did not look to not look?
Jesus used that when he spoke to nicodemus, and he said as moses raised the serpent, so too must the son of man be raised. Why?
Because Egyptians Romans, Americans, Muslims, Jews, Men, women, are as good as dead with no hope. So God lifted his son, that whoever “looks” to the cross will be saved.
Just like the children of Israel had to look at the serpent. We must look to the cross.
We look for the same reason they did. And we do not look for the same reason they did not look
Belief or unbelief.
Those who believe (looked) are not condemned, those who do not believe (do not look) are condemned (dead) already.
we must chose to believe and look, or to reject and not look.
This is the great flaw of Arminian theology that makes it millions of times worse than Calvin. Calvin's solution is Limited Atonement which is pretty abhorrent but at least it would depend upon God's judgement. Arminius makes it depend upon human will. Not only the human will of the one who hears the gospel but ...
... but the will of those who are tasked with preaching the good news to the whole world. Will they go or will they stay at home? whole nations of souls depend upon it BILLIONS of souls.
That's if you believe Arminius. You can only choose if you are given a choice.
"anyone who was there" you say, that's right, the Jews, they were there. They were the chosen people. Elect, chosen.
I constantly hear folks say in the last judgement is unto damnation, after all the church is in the first resurrection right? so according to any theology all else have been passed over and must be damned ... right?
That is not what the bible says. The bible says that when God comes to judge the earth He will judge with equity, that is with perfect fairness.