Israel Declares War

[shittim]

The Ezekiel 38 war just started on Oct. 7. the satan worshippers are looking for the "Mahdi" to return , in order for him to return there must be worldwide wide war with great bloodshed, that is what islame teaches, all over the world the cult leaders called Imam's have gotten their satanic cult members up to protest the victim of the satanic terror attack.

 

[shittim]

Hamas has no where to send rockets from except for on top of their own population because it is so dense.

Satan worshipers are required to lie to further islame, killing their own with a missile and blaming Israel is entirely within their realm.

 

[HeIsHere]

The Ezekiel 38 war just started on Oct. 7. the satan worshippers are looking for the "Mahdi" to return , in order for him to return there must be worldwide wide war with great bloodshed, that is what islame teaches, all over the world the cult leaders called Imam's have gotten their satanic cult members up to protest the victim of the satanic terror attack.

I am going to have add you to my ignore list.

This mentality is the reason this world is a mess.

Jesus called the Jews synagogue of Satan, did you forget that?
Give me all the red x's you want ... your passive-aggressiveness is tiresome.

 

[NightTwister]

the main issue is that the western media paints Israel in a victim mold and never mentions anything they do that is not good.

the number of " Christians" ( not on this site, but in general) that correctly state that what hamas is doing is wrong, but then cheer for Israel going into gaza and killing folks there who have never attacked anyone is scary...

I don't see anyone here cheering Israel going into Gaza. I certainly don't see anyone cheering "killing folks who have never attacked anyone", nor do I think that's what Israel is doing.

What to do with a country that attacks you without provocation? They fire rockets at your cities from mosques, schools and hospitals. They store munitions below the same. They use their own women and children as human shields.

War is messy. There is no "clean" way to fight these people, but it's clear now that Israel must after the latest horrific escalation.

Q. 136. What are the sins forbidden in the sixth commandment?
A. The sins forbidden in the sixth commandment are, all taking away the life of ourselves, or of others, except in case of public justice, lawful war, or necessary defense; the neglecting or withdrawing the lawful and necessary means of preservation of life; --Westminster Larger Catechism

 

[ZNP]

Gaza (Hamas) has no where to send rockets from except for on top of their own population because it is so dense.

Terrorists have used human shields for decades because if they don't they will be obliterated instantly.

You cannot blame Israel for fighting against people shooting missiles at them and having collateral damage while giving Hamas a pass for shooting missiles from densely populated regions. They knew this would cause collateral damage.

Both Israel and Palestine chose this path of terrorism and they are reaping what they have sowed.

Israel realized they were getting much more immigration than the Palestinians and so they used every incident of terrorism to seize more land and expand. They also blow up the homes of terrorists and give them to Israel. It was a slow, squeeze Palestinians out, the way a python would kill you.

 

[notmyown]

please if you would, say a prayer for Gracie. she's the daughter of friends of ours, and is a missionary in Lebanon.

thank you very much.

 

[PennEd]

please if you would, say a prayer for Gracie. she's the daughter of friends of ours, and is a missionary in Lebanon.

thank you very much.

We certainly will.
Unfortunately, an uncomfortably high percentage of Muslims actually think like THIS guy:

https://x.com/atensnut/status/1712544054213488780?s=20

 

[HeIsHere]

Terrorists have used human shields for decades because if they don't they will be obliterated instantly.

So if there is evidence that the Jews did this as well can we consider them as terrorists?

 

[PennEd]

So if there is evidence that the Jews did this as well can we consider them as terrorists?

If this was an intentional strike by Israel it would certainly qualify as a war crime.

I think it is highly unlikely it was an intentional act by Israel.

Having said that, horrible things happen in war. And the evil Muslims do not care about their own people.

They are cowards that hide behind women and children. And it is absolutely not beneath them to massacre their own, to garner sympathy and support from the world.

 

[HeIsHere]

If this was an intentional strike by Israel it would certainly qualify as a war crime.

I think it is highly unlikely it was an intentional act by Israel.

Having said that, horrible things happen in war. And the evil Muslims do not care about their own people.

They are cowards that hide behind women and children. And it is absolutely not beneath them to massacre their own, to garner sympathy and support from the world.

I was referring to Israelis using Palestinians as human shields which has been documented by Amnesty International during the bombing campaign on the Gaza Strip codenamed Operation “Cast Lead” in 2009.

Just wondering if this also means they are terrorists as well for using human shields even though it is not their own people?

 

[ZNP]

So if there is evidence that the Jews did this as well can we consider them as terrorists?

If the US did this to the Native Americans can we consider ourselves as terrorists?

If New Zealand did this to the native population can they consider themselves as terrorists?

If Australia did this to the aborigines can they consider themselves as terrorists?

If Britain did this in India can they consider themselves as terrorists?

If every empire did this can they consider themselves as terrorists?

If other people are as guilty as I am does that mean I am no longer guilty?

 

[PennEd]

I was referring to Israelis using Palestinians as human shields which has been documented by Amnesty International during the bombing campaign on the Gaza Strip codenamed Operation “Cast Lead” in 2009.

Just wondering if this also means they are terrorists as well for using human shields even though it is not their own people?

If that happened, by a legitimate country, it would definitely be terrorism.

But I don’t trust a single thing I see, especially from a leftist group like Amnesty International.

So even if there were video of such a thing happening I wouldn’t trust it on the face of it. That doesn’t necessarily mean it didn’t happen, only, the source is so suspect I wouldn’t believe THEM. They HATE Israel.

 

[HeIsHere]

If the US did this to the Native Americans can we consider ourselves as terrorists?

If New Zealand did this to the native population can they consider themselves as terrorists?

If Australia did this to the aborigines can they consider themselves as terrorists?

If Britain did this in India can they consider themselves as terrorists?

If every empire did this can they consider themselves as terrorists?

If other people are as guilty as I am does that mean I am no longer guilty?

Yes that is always the argument isn't it.

But it is not an apples to apples comparison.

My statement was about using other humans as shields not colonialism.

 

[HeIsHere]

If that happened, by a legitimate country, it would definitely be terrorism.

But I don’t trust a single thing I see, especially from a leftist group like Amnesty International.

So even if there were video of such a thing happening I wouldn’t trust it on the face of it. That doesn’t necessarily mean it didn’t happen, only, the source is so suspect I wouldn’t believe THEM. They HATE Israel.

Right.

This is the problem in the end. 2009 was before AI generated images I believe.

Sometimes the left is far more honest than the right, Cheney and Rumsfield come to mind.
We really cannot accept that the Jews acted in direct violation of International Law as they are doing right now even in the face of evidence.

 

[ZNP]

Yes that is always the argument isn't it.

But it is not an apples to apples comparison.

My statement was about using other humans as shields not colonialism.

My argument was that we have been given the green light to judge ourselves but have been warned that with what judgement we judge others we shall be judged.

Israel is not saved, they are not redeemed, they have rejected the blood of Jesus. Therefore they are the same lump of cheese as the rest of the sinful world.

Perhaps the sins appear more egregious but they are put in a much more difficult position than most other people.

Personally I am very happy that I am not a judge, to me that seems like the hardest job, you have to know the full situation and context and precisely what happened.

I am repulsed by all these people who are like dogs panting, can't wait to proclaim that one side or the other is evil so they can justify themselves in killing them. It seems to me there is no fear of God, no fear of having to appear before God.

I have said this before and will say it again, I am not a judge, I am a witness. Everyone will have to appear before the judge for the things they have done. I try to shine a light on evil and wicked acts so that people can repent.

It doesn't help me if I am "less" guilty than someone else, being "guilty" is the problem. I don't want to appear at my judgement being guilty, I want to appear covered in the blood of Jesus.

 

[cv5]

Definitely a Hamas missile and NOT an Israeli JDAM.
A JDAM or guided bomb would have left clearly defined evidence and massive crater etc.
Tragic that a Hamas missile failure caused these casualties. The evidence is conclusive.
Hopefully the unrest will abate.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1714587746612740278

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1714571559954731398

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/with_replies

 

[HeIsHere]

My argument was that we have been given the green light to judge ourselves but have been warned that with what judgement we judge others we shall be judged.

Israel is not saved, they are not redeemed, they have rejected the blood of Jesus. Therefore they are the same lump of cheese as the rest of the sinful world.

Perhaps the sins appear more egregious but they are put in a much more difficult position than most other people.

Personally I am very happy that I am not a judge, to me that seems like the hardest job, you have to know the full situation and context and precisely what happened.

I am repulsed by all these people who are like dogs panting, can't wait to proclaim that one side or the other is evil so they can justify themselves in killing them. It seems to me there is no fear of God, no fear of having to appear before God.

I have said this before and will say it again, I am not a judge, I am a witness. Everyone will have to appear before the judge for the things they have done. I try to shine a light on evil and wicked acts so that people can repent.

Yes I agree, since this is NOT the end times, we must live out the duties (be salt and light) which were given to us by God and we are failing big time because we looking for some bogeyman antichrist and rapture.

Salt and light means not covering up the truth because of some misplaced allegiance. Our allegiance to Christ alone, the NT is clear on this.

This notion that God's chosen people are more noble and righteous by some on this thread is so outside of scripture even if you do think this is the end times.

 

[Ted01]

Attacking civilians is not acceptable, and the response can not be also attacking civilians.

While I don't disagree with this... in fact support it, I do get mixed thoughts about it.

Islamic military tactics for several decades have included, rather frequently, embedding themselves with civilians and public-use facilities, (hospitals, schools, factories, etc.). It's not new at all.
Hamas has kinda' honed it into a fine art by launching rockets into Israel and using guerrilla style raids on civilians and then pulling back into Gaza or the West Bank and embedding into these areas. Then they blame Israel when they come in fighting and civilians are wounded or killed.
Another thing that Islamists do is they go ununiformed... no way to readily differentiate between active military and civilian. And they do all that on purpose.

 

[Moses_Young]

Thats tough. One wants to believe Israel, over Hamas and jhadis, but i know the Israeli government is just as crooked as any government.

I'd argue Israel's government is one of the worst, in terms of corruption. I've never liked the CIA or intelligence agencies, but most of them make an effort to imply they're doing what they do in secret, for good. Mossad's motto is "By deception thou shalt do war". If this is the case, then, "By how you wage war shall your words be measured" should be our motto. If we were wise, that is.

 

[ZNP]

Yes I agree, since this is NOT the end times, we must live out the duties (be salt and light) which were given to us by God and we are failing big time because we looking for some bogeyman antichrist and rapture.

Salt and light means not covering up the truth because of some misplaced allegiance. Our allegiance to Christ alone, the NT is clear on this.

This notion that God's chosen people are more noble and righteous by some on this thread is so outside of scripture even if you do think this is the end times.

The end of the world

Matthew 13:39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

This word for end is only used 6 times in the New Testament, five times in Matthew and once in Hebrews. It means completion. The harvest is the "completion of the world".

My understanding is that God judges the hearts, out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks, that is our harvest. Right now everyone is speaking, we have social platforms, and even if you don't have a channel you can leave comments. Estimates are that we have 2.5 quintillion bytes of information produced everyday, or 25,000,000,000,000,000,000. This is the harvest season, or "the end of the world".

So yes, I do believe this is the end of the world, and I do believe the Lord is working on Israel to get them to repent. It will take Armageddon, but I do believe they will turn to Jesus.