Not Attending Church

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Locoponydirtman

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Its not so great to google search statements to take out of context in order to make a false allegation against christians, its the work of satan to falsely accuse the bretheren. So these attacks on the church and the faith and the faithful are particularly evil.
 

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Actually, God's Word contains warnings that Christians can in fact lose their salvation if they turn away from the Lord man sin.
I have no idea what that sentence means. As for God's warnings, it's one way He keeps those he has elected.
 

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yes, i am a born again christian since 1993. currently, i am not attending church simply because there aren't any great "teaching" pastors around. by course, all Christians know we all should be attending church. it's like voting, if you heart, mind, soul, conscious & spirit tell you there isn't anyone worthy, then don't vote. you don't vote just to vote! i want to go to church but i'm not going to be unhappy there. you'd get bored fast. i once asked a great teaching pastor who is no longer in the area why pastors don't do a good job teaching in their preaching. he said, "when you have a small church, pastors don't feel a big responsibility to do better". so i listen to adrian rogers, charles stanley, michael uceff, amir tsarfati, joesph prince, vernon magee, chuck smith, noah hutchins, chuck colsen, the haggis's, jack van impie, david jeremiah, etc.
 
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yes, i am a born again christian since 1993. currently, i am not attending church simply because there aren't any great "teaching" pastors around. by course, all Christians know we all should be attending church. it's like voting, if you heart, mind, soul, conscious & spirit tell you there isn't anyone worthy, then don't vote. you don't vote just to vote! i want to go to church but i'm not going to be unhappy there. you'd get bored fast. i once asked a great teaching pastor who is no longer in the area why pastors don't do a good job teaching in their preaching. he said, "when you have a small church, pastors don't feel a big responsibility to do better". so i listen to adrian rogers, charles stanley, michael uceff, amir tsarfati, joesph prince, vernon magee, chuck smith, noah hutchins, chuck colsen, the haggis's, jack van impie, david jeremiah, etc.
At least you acknowledge that being in church is prefered. While listening to teachers on the radio is better than nothing at all, and that is a broad spectrum of teachers; I wont get into whether they are good or not, I will say this fellowship is very important we need it. So please at least find you a group of christian brothers to fellowship with.
 
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Pray by yourself and God is not there. Just saying the scriptures.
If you believe this then how do you reconcile it with Trinitarian doctrine?
 
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If you believe this then how do you reconcile it with Trinitarian doctrine?
One dont affect the other, not that i agree with his statement at all.
So, what about The Trinity do you disagree with?
 

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At least you acknowledge that being in church is prefered. While listening to teachers on the radio is better than nothing at all, and that is a broad spectrum of teachers; I wont get into whether they are good or not, I will say this fellowship is very important we need it. So please at least find you a group of christian brothers to fellowship with.
i found a couple just down the street last year who was entertaining Bible studies. i attended 2 meetings. they were an older couple, in they're 80's. they said they were born again. so i found that they didn't believe in "once saved always saved", (1st John 5:13). she said to me once, "i can get saved anytime i want". i told her of the verses: 2nd Corinthians 6:2, Hebrews 3:7,8 & Psalm 95:7,8. she would not hear it. her husband who said he was a born again Christian & taught Bible class, didn't believe in once saved always saved & that you could never know if you are saved. holy heavens!! how they destroy themselves with false beliefs. no, there aren't any true Christian groups around. actually, kind of dead around here. sometimes i think i'm the only around witnessing to people.
 

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Once can have fellowship with other Christians and do just fine... even go to Heaven when they croak... and not belong to any of these "churches" that teach false doctrine and continually try to con people in to giving their money so they can build bigger buildings and pay large salaries to "ministers" who just trying to impress people with how much of a big short they are.
Do you have a list of these false churches? Do you attend a congregational worship service?

(just wondering)

The NT is full of examples where the new believers all attended congregational services. The Apostle Paul established congregations pretty much everywhere he went.

Makes no nevermind to me if one does or does not. Free will gives each of us to choose.
 
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One dont affect the other, not that i agree with his statement at all.
So, what about The Trinity do you disagree with?
Please rephrase your question. I don't understand it
 
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beaglehound

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Do you disagree with Trinitarianism?
If so on what points do you disagree?
I believe in the Trinity. That is why I asked him to reconcile the Trinity with God not being there when praying alone.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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I believe in the Trinity. That is why I asked him to reconcile the Trinity with God not being there when praying alone.
Ok. Sorry I misunderstood you.
 
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As for God's warnings, it's one way He keeps those he has elected.
So you admit that if "the elect" do not heed the Lord's warnings and disobey Him... they are lost, unless they repent confessing their sin so the Lord can cleanse them of unrighteousness!

Proverbs 28:13
He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.


1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.


Or, the "elect" are so saved... they can ignore God's warnings and live in sin and they don't need to confess / repent and it's all good cause they are ":elect"



so i listen to adrian rogers, charles stanley, michael uceff, amir tsarfati, joesph prince, vernon magee, chuck smith, noah hutchins, chuck colsen, the haggis's, jack van impie, david jeremiah, etc.

Wow! That's the who's who of the false teachers zoo!



Trinitarian doctrine
1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are One.



Do you have a list of these false churches? Do you attend a congregational worship service?

(just wondering)

The NT is full of examples where the new believers all attended congregational services. The Apostle Paul established congregations pretty much everywhere he went.

Makes no nevermind to me if one does or does not. Free will gives each of us to choose.
Yes, I either visited, exchanged emails with the pastor, or read what they believed on their website all of which revealed they teach error...

And I'm not a new believer (going on 40 years as a Christian) and most of my life I have actually belonged to churches and then the Lord led me to NOT sit under false doctrine.

So, I'm not forsaking the gathering of ourselves as I'd like to be able to find a church to attend, but God's Word also teaches to not be in agreement with those that teach doctrines of demons.
 

Karlon

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So you admit that if "the elect" do not heed the Lord's warnings and disobey Him... they are lost, unless they repent confessing their sin so the Lord can cleanse them of unrighteousness!

Proverbs 28:13
He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.


1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.


Or, the "elect" are so saved... they can ignore God's warnings and live in sin and they don't need to confess / repent and it's all good cause they are ":elect"






Wow! That's the who's who of the false teachers zoo!





1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are One.





Yes, I either visited, exchanged emails with the pastor, or read what they believed on their website all of which revealed they teach error...

And I'm not a new believer (going on 40 years as a Christian) and most of my life I have actually belonged to churches and then the Lord led me to NOT sit under false doctrine.

So, I'm not forsaking the gathering of ourselves as I'd like to be able to find a church to attend, but God's Word also teaches to not be in agreement with those that teach doctrines of demons.
which one?
 

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Not Attending Church

Yeah, that's what I thought this was about.:)
 
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Yet they do heed, by the Power of the Spirit, so they are not lost.
Now that's not something OSAS adherent would say!

They typically claim that even if one of the "elect" were to living in sin, they would be saved anyway.

The OSAS Association is gonna want to have a word with you about not representing them correctly. :ROFL:



Which one what?