The Feast of Booths, the Feast of Tabernacles, Sukkot, Succot.

[JacobMartinMertens]

In Zechariah... the Feast of Tabernacles (or, the Feast of Booths) is spoken of with Gentile involvement.

Since there is a new covenant for Israel, and since this was a prophecy that may have already had it's fulfillment, is this still for today?

Leviticus 23:34 NASB20 - "Speak to the sons of Israel, saying, 'On the fifteenth of this seventh month is the Feast of Booths for seven days to the LORD.

Deuteronomy 16:13, 16 NASB20 - "You shall celebrate the Feast of Booths for seven days when you have gathered in from your threshing floor and your wine vat; ... "Three times a year all your males shall appear before the LORD your God at the place which He chooses: at the Feast of Unleavened Bread, at the Feast of Weeks, and at the Feast of Booths; and they are not to appear before the LORD empty-handed.

Deuteronomy 31:10 NASB20 - Then Moses commanded them, saying, "At the end of [every] seven years, at the time of the year of the release of debts, at the Feast of Booths,

2 Chronicles 8:13 NASB20 - and [he did so] according to the daily rule, offering [them] up according to the commandment of Moses, for the Sabbaths, the new moons, and the three annual feasts--the Feast of Unleavened Bread, the Feast of Weeks, and the Feast of Booths.

Ezra 3:4 NASB20 - They also celebrated the Feast of Booths, as it is written, and [offered] the prescribed number of burnt offerings daily, according to the ordinance, as each day required;

Zechariah 14:16, 18-19 NASB20 - Then it will come about that any who are left of all the nations that came against Jerusalem will go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of armies, and to celebrate the Feast of Booths. ... And if the family of Egypt does not go up or enter, then no [rain will fall] on them; it will be the plague with which the LORD strikes the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Booths. This will be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Booths.

John 7:2 NASB20 - Now the feast of the Jews, the Feast of Booths, was near.

Nehemiah 8:14 NASB20 - And they found written in the Law how the LORD had commanded through Moses that the sons of Israel were to live in booths during the feast of the seventh month.

 

[Anni]

In Zechariah... the Feast of Tabernacles (or, the Feast of Booths) is spoken of with Gentile involvement.

Since there is a new covenant for Israel, and since this was a prophecy that may have already had it's fulfillment, is this still for today?

Leviticus 23:34 NASB20 - "Speak to the sons of Israel, saying, 'On the fifteenth of this seventh month is the Feast of Booths for seven days to the LORD.

Deuteronomy 16:13, 16 NASB20 - "You shall celebrate the Feast of Booths for seven days when you have gathered in from your threshing floor and your wine vat; ... "Three times a year all your males shall appear before the LORD your God at the place which He chooses: at the Feast of Unleavened Bread, at the Feast of Weeks, and at the Feast of Booths; and they are not to appear before the LORD empty-handed.

Deuteronomy 31:10 NASB20 - Then Moses commanded them, saying, "At the end of [every] seven years, at the time of the year of the release of debts, at the Feast of Booths,

2 Chronicles 8:13 NASB20 - and [he did so] according to the daily rule, offering [them] up according to the commandment of Moses, for the Sabbaths, the new moons, and the three annual feasts--the Feast of Unleavened Bread, the Feast of Weeks, and the Feast of Booths.

Ezra 3:4 NASB20 - They also celebrated the Feast of Booths, as it is written, and [offered] the prescribed number of burnt offerings daily, according to the ordinance, as each day required;

Zechariah 14:16, 18-19 NASB20 - Then it will come about that any who are left of all the nations that came against Jerusalem will go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of armies, and to celebrate the Feast of Booths. ... And if the family of Egypt does not go up or enter, then no [rain will fall] on them; it will be the plague with which the LORD strikes the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Booths. This will be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Booths.

John 7:2 NASB20 - Now the feast of the Jews, the Feast of Booths, was near.

Nehemiah 8:14 NASB20 - And they found written in the Law how the LORD had commanded through Moses that the sons of Israel were to live in booths during the feast of the seventh month.

Thanks for asking this question, it gave me something to research to help my own Christian growth.
I would conclude that Christians celebrate Succoth as Harvest Festival to give thanks to God for his provision.
The second reason for Succoth is to live outside the home to celebrate God's bringing His people out of Egypt. I don't think the second is for Christians today as we have been likewise delivered from the exile of sin by Christ's sacrifice.
Perhaps, as Christians, Succoth was a prophesy of the Messiah. That's just my own thought.
I think we are free to celebrate Succoth both ways, but it's not essential.
The following might be helpful. Note the booth, wow!

https://www.learnreligions.com/feast-of-tabernacles-700181

 

[oyster67]

In Zechariah... the Feast of Tabernacles (or, the Feast of Booths) is spoken of with Gentile involvement.

Since there is a new covenant for Israel, and since this was a prophecy that may have already had it's fulfillment, is this still for today?

No.

Since there is a new covenant for Israel, ...

The New Covenant is for everyone. It is about placing our faith in Jesus and Jesus alone. No works or rituals are necessary.

 

[oyster67]

I would conclude that Christians celebrate Succoth as Harvest Festival to give thanks to God for his provision.

Christians give thanks by simply saying "thank you, Jesus."

 

[oyster67]

it's not essential. (celerating Succoth)

Correct.

 

[Anni]

Christians give thanks by simply saying "thank you, Jesus."

Harvest Festival is a lovely way for congregations to thank the Lord for His provision & bounty. Everyone gives as they can & the gifts are shared between those in need. It's praise as well as thanksgiving together.
I was concluding that Harvest Festival is a similar celebration to Succoth enjoyed at the same time of year. Such a shame we don't celebrate Thanksgiving in the UK.

 

[oyster67]

Harvest Festival is a lovely way for congregations to thank the Lord for His provision & bounty. Everyone gives as they can & the gifts are shared between those in need. It's praise as well as thanksgiving together.
I was concluding that Harvest Festival is a similar celebration to Succoth enjoyed at the same time of year. Such a shame we don't celebrate Thanksgiving in the UK.

Yes, it is good to remember in these ways if we remember that we are worshipping Jesus rather than "worshipping the worship".

 

[oyster67]

Such a shame we don't celebrate Thanksgiving in the UK.

We can all celebrate Thanksgiving together here on CC.

 

[GRACE_ambassador]

Thanks Be Unto The Lord Jesus Christ!

 

[Anni]

We can all celebrate Thanksgiving together here on CC.

You're speaking my language!
T-bone steak (not liking turkey)
Standing by... (Oh boy, thanks Lord!)

 

[JacobMartinMertens]

Thanks for asking this question, it gave me something to research to help my own Christian growth.
I would conclude that Christians celebrate Succoth as Harvest Festival to give thanks to God for his provision.
The second reason for Succoth is to live outside the home to celebrate God's bringing His people out of Egypt. I don't think the second is for Christians today as we have been likewise delivered from the exile of sin by Christ's sacrifice.
Perhaps, as Christians, Succoth was a prophesy of the Messiah. That's just my own thought.
I think we are free to celebrate Succoth both ways, but it's not essential.
The following might be helpful. Note the booth, wow!

https://www.learnreligions.com/feast-of-tabernacles-700181

I know that Israel has a new covenant now, but I wonder about Israel and Christians who are Israelites if they should celebrate it. I am a Gentile so I wonder if I should celebrate it.

 

[JacobMartinMertens]

No.


The New Covenant is for everyone. It is about placing our faith in Jesus and Jesus alone. No works or rituals are necessary.

What do you think about how in Jeremiah the new covenant is the new covenant that God would make with Israel? Jeremiah 31:33. Yirmiyahu 31:32.

 

[oyster67]

What do you think about how in Jeremiah the new covenant is the new covenant that God would make with Israel? Jeremiah 31:33. Yirmiyahu 31:32.

It started with Israel. After all, a thing must start somewhere. Anyways, I think the gift of God's only begotten Son that Jeremiah preached and prophesied about to be wonderful beyond words.

Yirmiyahu to you too.

 

[vineandfigtree]

I know that Israel has a new covenant now, but I wonder about Israel and Christians who are Israelites if they should celebrate it. I am a Gentile so I wonder if I should celebrate it.

I would strongly encourage you to celebrate Sukkot, as well as the other festivals that the Lord commanded His people, as a Gentile. My family has since 2009. As previously mentioned, Zechariah states that eventually the nations will be required to celebrate it. Why wait? What a wonderful thing it is to celebrate a holiday that God commanded and that Jesus celebrated.

 

[JacobMartinMertens]

I would strongly encourage you to celebrate Sukkot, as well as the other festivals that the Lord commanded His people, as a Gentile. My family has since 2009. As previously mentioned, Zechariah states that eventually the nations will be required to celebrate it. Why wait? What a wonderful thing it is to celebrate a holiday that God commanded and that Jesus celebrated.

If Zechariah is for Gentiles now, sure.

I know that Israel has a new covenant. Though.

 

[vineandfigtree]

If Zechariah is for Gentiles now, sure.

I know that Israel has a new covenant. Though.

Well, the prediction of Zechariah is taking place with the new covenant in mind. And the passage states that the nations (Goyim, "Gentiles") will be honoring Sukkot.

 

[JacobMartinMertens]

Well, the prediction of Zechariah is taking place with the new covenant in mind. And the passage states that the nations (Goyim, "Gentiles") will be honoring Sukkot.

It says that they should or there will be no rain on them. The new covenant is not mentioned. It is only mentioned in Jeremiah, Luke, 1 and 2 Corinthians, and Hebrews.

Jeremiah 31:31 NASB20 - "Behold, days are coming," declares the LORD, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah,

Luke 22:20 NASB20 - And in the same way [He took] the cup after they had eaten, saying, "This cup, which is poured out for you, is the new covenant in My blood.

1 Corinthians 11:25 NASB20 - In the same way [He] also [took] the cup after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you drink [it,] in remembrance of Me."

2 Corinthians 3:6 NASB20 - who also made us adequate [as] servants of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

Hebrews 8:8, 13 NASB20 - For in finding fault with the people, He says, "BEHOLD, DAYS ARE COMING, SAYS THE LORD, WHEN I WILL BRING ABOUT A NEW COVENANT WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AND THE HOUSE OF JUDAH, ... When He said, "A new [covenant,]" He has made the first obsolete. But whatever is becoming obsolete and growing old is about to disappear.

Hebrews 9:15 NASB20 - For this reason He is the mediator of a new covenant, so that, since a death has taken place for the redemption of the violations that were [committed] under the first covenant, those who have been called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.

Hebrews 12:24 NASB20 - and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood, which speaks better than [the blood] of Abel.

 

[vineandfigtree]

It says that they should or there will be no rain on them. The new covenant is not mentioned. It is only mentioned in Jeremiah, Luke, 1 and 2 Corinthians, and Hebrews.

Jeremiah 31:31 NASB20 - "Behold, days are coming," declares the LORD, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah,

Luke 22:20 NASB20 - And in the same way [He took] the cup after they had eaten, saying, "This cup, which is poured out for you, is the new covenant in My blood.

1 Corinthians 11:25 NASB20 - In the same way [He] also [took] the cup after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you drink [it,] in remembrance of Me."

2 Corinthians 3:6 NASB20 - who also made us adequate [as] servants of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

Hebrews 8:8, 13 NASB20 - For in finding fault with the people, He says, "BEHOLD, DAYS ARE COMING, SAYS THE LORD, WHEN I WILL BRING ABOUT A NEW COVENANT WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AND THE HOUSE OF JUDAH, ... When He said, "A new [covenant,]" He has made the first obsolete. But whatever is becoming obsolete and growing old is about to disappear.

Hebrews 9:15 NASB20 - For this reason He is the mediator of a new covenant, so that, since a death has taken place for the redemption of the violations that were [committed] under the first covenant, those who have been called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.

Hebrews 12:24 NASB20 - and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood, which speaks better than [the blood] of Abel.

What I meant is that Zechariah's prediction indicates a time yet to come. It indicates a prophecy that comes to fruition toward the culmination of all things, including the establishment of the new covenant. Just because the new covenant isn't mentioned in a particular book of the Bible doesn't mean it's not connected to it.

Are you suggesting a scenario in which non-believing Gentiles (i.e. outside the new covenant) would be required to keep Sukkot, but believing Gentiles aren't?

 

[JacobMartinMertens]

What I meant is that Zechariah's prediction indicates a time yet to come. It indicates a prophecy that comes to fruition toward the culmination of all things, including the establishment of the new covenant. Just because the new covenant isn't mentioned in a particular book of the Bible doesn't mean it's not connected to it.

Are you suggesting a scenario in which non-believing Gentiles (i.e. outside the new covenant) would be required to keep Sukkot, but believing Gentiles aren't?

No. But those who go up against Israel may be non-believers.

The new covenant came 2,000 years ago.

The Zechariah prophecy about the feast of tabernacles or booths either has already had its fulfillment or it is for the future.

 

[vineandfigtree]

No. But those who go up against Israel may be non-believers.

The new covenant came 2,000 years ago.

The Zechariah prophecy about the feast of tabernacles or booths either has already had its fulfillment or it is for the future.

I certainly affirm what you've stated here.