I am a Christian who does not accept or follow Christianity.

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JacobMartinMertens said:
1 Timothy 3:16 NASB20 - Beyond question, great is the mystery of godliness: He who was revealed in the flesh, Was vindicated in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Proclaimed among the nations, Believed on in the world, Taken up in glory.
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Byzantine majority text:


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JacobMartinMertens said:
I don't know. I only know John 17:5 to that.
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The only One Who exists before time is tge creator of time, of all things.

and in John 17:5 Christ clearly states that He not only exists before time but that He has all the glory of God before anything is created.

hence uncreated, hence the Creator, hence God Himself.
 
JacobMartinMertens said:
I don't know what you are referring to.
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It's simple. The names of God reveal something of God's character, or intentions, or actions. God has many names that have been revealed over time. Jesus is one of them. So is Emmanuel which means God with us. Who is called Emmanuel?
 
posthuman said:
The only One Who exists before time is tge creator of time, of all things.

and in John 17:5 Christ clearly states that He not only exists before time but that He has all the glory of God before anything is created.

hence uncreated, hence the Creator, hence God Himself.
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Not as I see it. I believe that there was a separate individual besides God. I don't consider myself to be God even though God created me, certainly.
 
posthuman said:
You want to find the ones you like, and accept them on the basis of your liking them?

yup, thousands.

speaking of thousands, the Godhood of Christ was never questioned by the church. even the early Arian heretics accepted that He should be worshipped as God not denying His deity but thinking He was created by God to be God.
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I don't accept the Arians. I don't accept Christianity and the Trinity and dispensationalism, etc....

I look for what makes sense. If all texts say the same thing then it may be that there is no disagreement that can be made.
 
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