You have the wrong law and sin in view. The ways of the world are in the trusting of one's works for salvation
The ways of the world are not works salvation, they are drugs, sex, lying, cheating stealing, etc.
How can I ahve a discussion with someone who cuts out more than half of my post, redifine my own statements and then "proves" those statements wrong by not my definition of what I said but their altered definition...
You have the wrong law and sin in view. The ways of the world are in the trusting of one's works for salvation, instead of trusting solely in Christ and His perfect sacrifice. That is sin. Each of the two laws are mutually exclusive to each other, so, if one law is Christ, then the other one must be of works because works are the antithesis of Christ's sacrifice; that is, any work that someone might try to use to justify themselves before God, that work is of the law, and thereby, it falls under the law of sin and death. Why? Because anything that a man believes he must do to achieve his salvation, associates it to a law, (otherwise, there would be no such requirement), but instead, in truth, the works of law brings only God's wrath not salvation. The law of sin and death is itself a law and a sin too, so, whenever you see sin in terms of salvation, think works and law of sin and death - where there is the one, then the other is there too. That law is sometimes also referred to in the Bible as the law of works. For those saved or to be saved, no laws are pertinent because through Christ, they are not under any law for salvation - salvation is given to them fully, completely, and solely a gift outside of law, with no preconditions or requirements with it whatsoever.
[Rom 3:26-28 KJV]
26 To declare, [I say], at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
27 Where [is] boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith
So the only bad thing one can do is try to be obedient?
No sin and death is theft, murder, lying and the penalty that comes from doing that.
The law they transgress is the law of the Spirit of Christ Jesus, or, said another way, the law of liberty. Through Christ, regarding salvation, all other laws have been done away with.
Sin is to be under the law of works. Judgement will be made by the law of liberty (the law of Christ), against the law of works. To remain in the law of liberty is to be a doer of the work.
[Jas 1:25 KJV] 25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth [therein], he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.
[Jas 2:12 KJV] 12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
Free from sin, with sin being works for salvation.
Now don't misunderstand me. I am not saying that true Christians are free to act in any way not God and Christ glorifying, but neither will their doing so cause them to lose their salvation. For those saved, they are under God's close scrutiny and should they
do something inappropriate, He will punish them in ways most unpleasant and keep increasing the unpleasantness until they get the message and cease from it.
The perfect Law of Libert indeed, because if someone follow His Laws, they will be free from a life of evil.
John 12:26, “26 Whoever serves me must follow me; and where I am, my servant also will be. My Father will honor the one who serves me.”
Luke 11:28, But He said, “Blessed rather are those hearing the Word of Yah and watching over it!”
Luke 8:21, “And He answering, said to them, “My mother and My brothers are those who are hearing the Word of Yah and doing it.”
How about this, all I care about doing is what He wants me to, salvation is an after thought, I just want to do what He wants. I can read, I can listen to the Spirit.
John/Yahanan 4:25-26, "The woman said to Him; I know that the Messiah comes, and when He comes,
He will tell us all things. Yahshua said to her: I am He speaking to you."
John/Yahanan 12:48, “He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him.
The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day.”
He says to follow Him.
Mat 7:12-14, "Therefore, all things you want men to do to you, do the same to them, for this is the (
intent/Spirit of the) Law
and the Prophets. Enter in through the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many are those who go that way. Because straight is the gate, and narrow is the way which leads to life, and few there are who find it."
John/Yahanan 14:15, "If you love Me, keep My commandments."
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