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A gentle rebuke. Politics don't work, look at our world, yes it is being run by man but who is running the men and women who are in power? Serve Him, study His word, learn prophecy (all about the future) to guide you, pray.

Trust in the LORD with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding; Proverbs 3:5. We may late in the game, Ramaswamy, a non-believer who became rich by profiting off the losses of others. He went to Catholic school and claims he has been through the Bible more times than most Christians. I believe that todays Church is filled with many who will hear "I do not know you" because of the lack of true Biblical teaching. Example, what do you believe would happen to a life long professing Christian if they accept the mark of the beast?
 

shittim

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Looking at the Hebrews it was never His intention they have kings, they insisted, He let them have kings.
He gave us Holy Spirit to guide, speak, and show us all truth, and we wasted our position on material, temporal, things, except for a remnant to whom He has granted effectual prayer for His Kingdom.
blessings
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Good article. It sounded to me like he wanted to use the aid to stabilize the area. I think the proposal was meant to increase ties with peaceful Arab nations and form a coalition of nations to stand with Israel. That would actually be a good plan.
I'm just trying to listen to what each is saying, although some I think know them fairly well already.
 

ZNP

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Uh Oh the Debate is going to the ER

This is critical. If Tucker gets 90 million views of his interview with Trump and 1 million views of the debate it will be proof that the Debate is nothing but Empty Rhetoric.

Fox has to be terrified, their house of cards could be blown over by a massive in your face obliteration in the ratings game.
 

iamsoandso

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Uh Oh the Debate is going to the ER

This is critical. If Tucker gets 90 million views of his interview with Trump and 1 million views of the debate it will be proof that the Debate is nothing but Empty Rhetoric.

Fox has to be terrified, their house of cards could be blown over by a massive in your face obliteration in the ratings game.

I would think the views don't really mean anything because everyone from both both parties will watch both the Republican debates and the Democratic debates. Even Joe Biden will probably watch both the interview with Trump and the GOP debates along with his campaign team to so that they can prepare for the Republican/Democrat debates. The one issue is still sitting there which is the "GOP loyalty pledge" that states they will support the eventual GOP candidate. They did not require the candidates to sign it until "after they qualified for the debates" because it says they will pledge their loyalty to beat Biden/or whoever is the Democratic nominee AND to promise they will NOT RUN AS AN INDEPENDENT. If he don't sign it and runs as an independent he divides the Republicans and may as well have voted for Biden himself.
 

ZNP

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I would think the views don't really mean anything because everyone from both both parties will watch both the Republican debates and the Democratic debates. Even Joe Biden will probably watch both the interview with Trump and the GOP debates along with his campaign team to so that they can prepare for the Republican/Democrat debates. The one issue is still sitting there which is the "GOP loyalty pledge" that states they will support the eventual GOP candidate. They did not require the candidates to sign it until "after they qualified for the debates" because it says they will pledge their loyalty to beat Biden/or whoever is the Democratic nominee AND to promise they will NOT RUN AS AN INDEPENDENT. If he don't sign it and runs as an independent he divides the Republicans and may as well have voted for Biden himself.
Perhaps, no doubt all those involved professionally will watch both the debate and interview, but if the 75 million who voted for Trump skip the debate, that will be very telling. Like you said, a million people watching the debate does not mean any of them plan on voting for these candidates, but if you had 20-30 million that would be a different story. Most of those are voters.

The absolute worst thing for Fox is not being attacked, it isn't being ridiculed or reviled, the worst thing is if they are irrelevant. If they only get 1 million views while 90 million watch the interview with Tucker then Fox is truly irrelevant.
 

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Uh Oh the Debate is going to the ER

This is critical. If Tucker gets 90 million views of his interview with Trump and 1 million views of the debate it will be proof that the Debate is nothing but Empty Rhetoric.

Fox has to be terrified, their house of cards could be blown over by a massive in your face obliteration in the ratings game.
I never watch the debates and don't have television anyway, but a lot of Trump supporters may at least be interested in what one or two of the debaters has to say. That said, I've no interest in hearing from any of the lot.
 

Tall_Timbers

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If he don't sign it and runs as an independent he divides the Republicans and may as well have voted for Biden himself.
Hmmm... if that were to happen and Trump got more votes than the republican candidate, which I'm sure he would, wouldn't it be those who voted for the republican candidate who might as well have voted for diben himself? Just trying to use your logic. Personally I think every voter should vote for the candidate or write-in they think would be the best person for the job, and then come what may... that's assuming that the election is run without compromise...
 

ZNP

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Hmmm... if that were to happen and Trump got more votes than the republican candidate, which I'm sure he would, wouldn't it be those who voted for the republican candidate who might as well have voted for diben himself? Just trying to use your logic. Personally I think every voter should vote for the candidate or write-in they think would be the best person for the job, and then come what may... that's assuming that the election is run without compromise...
Really, why does the Republican party get to decide rather than the voters? Suppose 60 million vote for Trump and 10 million vote for the Republican candidate, obviously the blame should be put on the Republican party.
 

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Personally I think every voter should vote for the candidate or write-in they think would be the best person for the job, and then come what may... that's assuming that the election is run without compromise...
Of course, the ballots of Georgia, Arizona, and Michigan will be problematic. They will probably count the ballots from 2020 for 2024 just to be on the safe side. That's assuming Biden actually runs.
 

iamsoandso

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Hmm,well not sure how to address the responses to what I'm trying to convey in my former post but here it goes anyway?

52% in the poles of the GOP candidates running for POTUS is only about 25% of the national support? I would think that instead of snubbing off half(the other 48%) of those who are going to vote Republican?
 

ZNP

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Hmm,well not sure how to address the responses to what I'm trying to convey in my former post but here it goes anyway?

52% in the poles of the GOP candidates running for POTUS is only about 25% of the national support? I would think that instead of snubbing off half(the other 48%) of those who are going to vote Republican?
I didn't know we had any poles who were running for POTUS? I thought you needed a US birth certificate?
 

gb9

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Of course, the ballots of Georgia, Arizona, and Michigan will be problematic. They will probably count the ballots from 2020 for 2024 just to be on the safe side. That's assuming Biden actually runs.
yes, they will even go back to 2016 to see if they can a few uncounted hilary ballots they can toss in the hopper...
 

iamsoandso

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I didn't know we had any poles who were running for POTUS? I thought you needed a US birth certificate?

Hey your right I did misspell it,,, this is 2023 though and with all the "first this and first that" maybe a Polish immigrant would be a fresh start...
 

ZNP

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Hey your right I did misspell it,,, this is 2023 though and with all the "first this and first that" maybe a Polish immigrant would be a fresh start...
Uh oh, I think you just opened the door for some Obama jokes.
 

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yes, they will even go back to 2016 to see if they can a few uncounted hilary ballots they can toss in the hopper...
That would not surprise me at all. Election fraud is rampant in certain states. The USA is in need of election reform and standardization in every state. Right now, it's just a hodgepodge. Shouldn't take a month after the election to find out who is the president-elect. Get rid of early voting too and mail-in ballots. This leads to fraud.
 

ZNP

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This debate is historic

The least important debate in US history at the most critical time in our history.
 

shittim

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I think of how in physics it is understand that linear time itself is a creation, it doesn't really exist but was made for us, to be His, and share His creation.
When my heart stops I will be with Him.
Puts the politics thing in perspective and brings peace.
Keep praying His perfect will be done, walk out what he gives us to do.
blessings:)