Paul saw the ten commandments as part of the "ministry of death."

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Cameron143 said:
That's a heavy charge. Denying Christ is much different than disagreeing over doctrine. Is this directed at someone in particular?
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I posted a verse, I clearly stated I agree with this:

1 John 5:21, “Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amĕn.”

It is a guard rail against any trivialization or things we are warned of.

Revelation 2:20, "But I have this against you, that you tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess and is teaching and seducing my servants to practice sexual immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols."



John/Yahanan 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day."
 
SomeDisciple said:
That food was on a blanket! Not a pagan altar!
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makes me think of this "I even found an altar "

Acts 17:21-23, "For all the Athenians and the strangers living there spent their leisure time in doing naught but to speak or to hear what is fresh. And having stood in the midst of the Areopagus Sha’ul said, “Men of Athens, I see that you are very religious in every matter. “For passing through and observing the objects of your worship, I even found an altar with this inscription: TO THE UNKNOWN MIGHTY ONE. Not knowing then whom you worship, I make Him known to you:
 
SomeDisciple said:
What if you don't even know your brother; or it doesn't even have to be a brother- just somebody you might have influence over: and they just happen to see you from 20 meters. This doesn't have anything to do with eating "worthily". He's gonna think it's okay to partake in this pagan worship, because you did it; even though you didn't mean it that way in your heart- you're still putting a stumbling block in front of the blind.
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if you do not allow the distinction between eating and partaking, then you won't see the difference. A stranger would not see me eating with reverence to the idol as he might see those worshipping it doing.
 
SpeakTruth101 said:
I posted a verse, I clearly stated I agree with this:

1 John 5:21, “Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amĕn.”

It is a guard rail against any trivialization or things we are warned of.

Revelation 2:20, "But I have this against you, that you tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess and is teaching and seducing my servants to practice sexual immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols."



John/Yahanan 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day."
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The question still stands. We all agree with the word of God. The dissent is over what it actually means.
 
Gideon300 said:
I'm delighted to meet someone who knows what the Christian life is really about.
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I thought this was the foundation and narrow path of the Christian life

John 12:26, “26 Whoever serves me must follow me; and where I am, my servant also will be. My Father will honor the one who serves me.”
 
SpeakTruth101 said:
why would you even say that, that is odd. I never said you were, you make up ideas, I posted this

There is only 1 pastor it is not me

John 10:16, “And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd (G4166 poimén).”

I seek to do His will

John/Yahanan 8:31, "...If you continue in My doctrine, then you are truly My disciples."

had zero to do with you or who you follow, ou made an accusation saying I was a "pastor" Im telling you I seek His will.


I come here for discussion, debate is ok too, but you are making things up



where is your verse to prove that?

1 John 5:2-3, "By this we know that we love the children of Yah, when we love Yah and guard His commands. For this is the love for Yah, that we guard His commands, and His commands are not heavy."
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You've implied that if I do not offer reverence to your interpretation that I do not reverence God's commands nor love Him.
 
SpeakTruth101 said:
YHWH’s Law was before Moses.

Matthew 19:8, "He said to them, “Because of the hardness of your hearts, Mosheh allowed you to put away your wives, but from the beginning it was not so. "

1 John 2:7, "Beloved, I write no fresh command to you, but an old command which you have had from the beginning. The old command is the Word which you heard from the beginning."

Genesis 26:5, “Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my Laws.”

John/Yahanan 7:16-17, "Yahshua answered, them, and said: My doctrine is not Mine, but His Who sent Me. If any man will do His will, he will know about this teaching, whether it comes from YHWH, or whether I am speaking of My own authority."

John/Yahanan 14:15, “If you love Me, keep My commandments.”

Mat 22:36-40, "Teacher, what is the greatest commandment in the Law? Yahshua said to him: You must love YHWH your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might (Deuteronomy 6:5). This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself (Leviticus 19:18). On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."



love,

You must love YHWH your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might (Deuteronomy 6:5). This is the first and greatest commandment.

And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself (Leviticus 19:18).

righteousness, caring for others, stand up for the helpless, and obedience to whatever He says.



1 John 3:24, “And the one guarding His commands stays in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He stays in us, by the Spirit which He gave us.”
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The commands of Jesus are not the Law of Moses. Christians are related by the new birth to God, not to a pair of stones. You can't entreat a stone, you can't ask mercy of a stone and you can't find grace in a stone.

You need to know that you are dead to the Law. (Galatians 2:19) Who takes a dead man to court, no matter how wicked he was in life? Who expects anything from a dead man? If you seek to live by the law, you will be judged by it. Good luck with that.
 
Gideon300 said:
The commands of Jesus are not the Law of Moses. Christians are related by the new birth to God, not to a pair of stones. You can't entreat a stone, you can't ask mercy of a stone and you can't find grace in a stone.

You need to know that you are dead to the Law. (Galatians 2:19) Who takes a dead man to court, no matter how wicked he was in life? Who expects anything from a dead man? If you seek to live by the law, you will be judged by it. Good luck with that.
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Show me where I said they are the law of Moses please

John/Yahanan 7:16-17, "Yahshua answered, them, and said: My doctrine is not Mine, but His Who sent Me. If any man will do His will, he will know about this teaching, whether it comes from YHWH, or whether I am speaking of My own authority."
 
Mem said:
if you do not allow the distinction between eating and partaking, then you won't see the difference. A stranger would not see me eating with reverence to the idol as he might see those worshipping it doing.
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Okay, so blame a brother who makes no distinction for what you did; that's your answer?
 
Mem said:
You've implied that if I do not offer reverence to your interpretation that I do not reverence God's commands nor love Him.
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again show me where I said anything like that please

Also you literally said

Mem said:
So you don't know that you hate your brother by requiring to keep laws that you can't even keep? or does he only have to keep the ones that you can?
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a direct statement with no Scriptual foundation.
 
SomeDisciple said:
Okay, so blame a brother who makes no distinction for what you did; that's your answer?
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A hundred brothers can offer me a guilty conscience, but I don't have to accept it if it is not me that is in error.
 
Yahshua words are what matters, it does not matter what other people think are permissible

2 John/Yahanan 1:9, "Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of the Messiah, does not have Yah. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son."
 
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