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ThereRoseaLamb

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It should still be worth watching to see how Ramaswamy comports himself. He is well-spoken and issues driven. In many ways, he is like Trump without the baggage. Would be an excellent VP choice.
We could use 12 years of a leader who actually worked for Americans.
Haven't gotten the whole story, something about not supporting Israel anymore. If so, that' s a solid no for me and my entire family. And would be a no for CUFI and they have a huge backing.
 

iamsoandso

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Haven't gotten the whole story, something about not supporting Israel anymore. If so, that' s a solid no for me and my entire family. And would be a no for CUFI and they have a huge backing.

Yep Rinos who needs them...
 

Cameron143

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Haven't gotten the whole story, something about not supporting Israel anymore. If so, that' s a solid no for me and my entire family. And would be a no for CUFI and they have a huge backing.
Are you referring to a position Ramaswamy has taken?
 

iamsoandso

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It would be an embarrassment for the leader of the Orange party to stoop down to the level and appear on stage with those Red Republican Rino's in the first place...
 

Cameron143

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It would be an embarrassment for the leader of the Orange party to stoop down to the level and appear on stage with those Red Republican Rino's in the first place...
I like it. The orange pill party, complete with orange kool-aid.
 

Cameron143

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Who needs the stinkin Rino Republicans write Trumps name in if they choose another...
I wanted Cruz in 2016. I would prefer Ramaswamy or DeSantis now. But Trump will win the nomination.
In 2016, Trump made a connection with a sizeable portion of the American population who were tired of the harm they perceive the Democrats are doing to this nation and the lack of pushback by Republicans. And while many of them wanted more from Trump, they recognize that he got much of what they wanted done and other things started. They also see the unbridled corruption in Washington and know that Trump will fight against it. He is far from an ideal candidate, but he is well-suited for our time.
Many may not view the times we live in as perilous and not see the need for a bull in the China shop. I think that's exactly what we need.
 

iamsoandso

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I wanted Cruz in 2016. I would prefer Ramaswamy or DeSantis now. But Trump will win the nomination.
In 2016, Trump made a connection with a sizeable portion of the American population who were tired of the harm they perceive the Democrats are doing to this nation and the lack of pushback by Republicans. And while many of them wanted more from Trump, they recognize that he got much of what they wanted done and other things started. They also see the unbridled corruption in Washington and know that Trump will fight against it. He is far from an ideal candidate, but he is well-suited for our time.
Many may not view the times we live in as perilous and not see the need for a bull in the China shop. I think that's exactly what we need.

Yea the Koch brothers(AKA=America for prosperity) never donated to the Trump campaign in 2016 anyway but they did to the rest of the Republicans so who needs them Trump won without them before,,, there should be an outright divorce between the Republicans and Trump...
 

Cameron143

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Yea the Koch brothers(AKA=America for prosperity) never donated to the Trump campaign in 2016 anyway but they did to the rest of the Republicans so who needs them Trump won without them before,,, there should be an outright divorce between the Republicans and Trump...
Ideally it would be so. But to do so at this point would give the presidency to the Democrats, imo.
 

iamsoandso

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lol, now it looks like Trump would rather talk to Tucker who is one of his allies instead of facing Pence face to face... dumb decision I guess but if I was him I would have said I couldn't make it because I was preparing for one of the politically motivated indictments rather than admitting that I was free on that date but felt more comfortable talking with Tucker than the other candidates running for the GOP nomination...
 

iamsoandso

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Looks to me like Pence has got his number dialed in and he knows it....
 
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Regarding Pence, he always seemed to be there loyally backing Trump up in everything he said and did, or am I missing something?
 

shittim

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Pence failed when he had the opportunity to not accept some of the electors, as he turned away he was handed a coin from one of the corrupt legislators, a sign of corruption.
 

shittim

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He sounds very well spoken, but again he has no one in this vipers pit of deep state federal government we have failed to keep under voters reins.
 

shittim

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said the adversary?:):giggle::unsure:(y):coffee:
 

Moses_Young

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Pence failed when he had the opportunity to not accept some of the electors, as he turned away he was handed a coin from one of the corrupt legislators, a sign of corruption.
Pence is a national disgrace and a traitor. That he even has the gall to run again after such betrayal shows how deceptive politics is.