Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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shittim

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Not all who appear as Godly truly are?
Perhaps they are heeding His guidance?:)(y):unsure:
 

PennEd

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I think the republicans are making up this thing about the democrats are persecuting Donald Trump because so many like him and that they are doing It because It looks like he might win,I think they are doing It because he Is not fit to be the president and It just so happens to come across as If they are persecuting him.
Dude, I take no pleasure in saying you are embarrassing yourself.

How is it conceivably possible that you can’t see the insane danger of a sitting “president” and his handlers using the government agencies stacked with political cronies, endlessly attacking his chief political rival, going before politically biased judges.

You seriously can’t see the danger the country is in because of this? This is pure fascist behavior. The same every authoritarian government has always done.
 

Smoke

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It’s the strangest thing,why do SO many people prefer an unGODly man over Mike Pence.It boggles my mind.
I never thought Pence was a good candidate for VP, much less president. I really don't know why Trump picked him initially.

Having said that, I would replace "Pence" with" DeSantis". He seems to have most of the positives Republicans love about Trump but none of the baggage. This is just my opinion for what it's worth (not saying much), but I think DeSantis gives Republicans a more viable option to the executive branch, even if their ideals and loyalty are to Trump.

I would love to hear the case against DeSantis over Trump.
 

Smoke

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If I vote it'll be for Pence. Has a good head on his shoulders.
Would you say the case against Pence for most pro Trump people stems from Pence's unwillingness to reject electoral college votes?

Pence is quoted: “President Trump demanded that I use my authority as vice president presiding over the count of the Electoral College to essentially overturn the election by returning or literally rejecting votes. I had no authority to do that.”
 

cv5

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Would any of these make your list?

1.) Expedite "an experimental" vaccine at all cost which many feel are responsible for the deaths of thousands (potentially millions) of people, many of which are very young.

2.) Appoint alligator after alligator to the swamp when they campaigned to drain the swamp.

3.) Non-repentant serial adulterer (someone who has committed multiple accounts of adultery but refuses to ask for forgiveness).

4.) Being friends/partying with questionable people ranging from Kanye West to Bill Clinton to Jeffrey Epstein (prior to having falling outs with them).


Side note, you do give more reasons not to vote for Biden admittedly. lol
How about presidential election fraud and theft? I think that card alone "trumps" that 2-7 offsuit your are holding.

 

ResidentAlien

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Would you say the case against Pence for most pro Trump people stems from Pence's unwillingness to reject electoral college votes?

Pence is quoted: “President Trump demanded that I use my authority as vice president presiding over the count of the Electoral College to essentially overturn the election by returning or literally rejecting votes. I had no authority to do that.”
Pence is a mature man. Unlike Trump who is a little boy in a man's body. Trump's a psychological and emotional cripple and I shudder to think what'll happen if he gets back in there.
 

cv5

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Pence is a mature man. Unlike Trump who is a little boy in a man's body. Trump's a psychological and emotional cripple and I shudder to think what'll happen if he gets back in there.
I do agree. If Trump comported himself wisely, he would have sugically and diplomatically extripated the DC swamp criminal enterprises and traitors before they had opportunity to destroy him.

But because of his infantile naivete and narcissim, the entrenched DC mafia ragdolled him like a chump.
 
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Dude, I take no pleasure in saying you are embarrassing yourself.

How is it conceivably possible that you can’t see the insane danger of a sitting “president” and his handlers using the government agencies stacked with political cronies, endlessly attacking his chief political rival, going before politically biased judges.

You seriously can’t see the danger the country is in because of this? This is pure fascist behavior. The same every authoritarian government has always done.
I think It's an embarrassment to not see h o w unfit Donald Trump Is for guiding and leading the United States and h o w dangerous It Is for America.I don't like what the democrats stand for but Donald Trump might ruin America If he becomes president.

Really do you want your children looking up to an unGODly man like that?

BTW,he(Donald Trump)told Mike Pence that he(Mike) was too honest.W O W.
 

cv5

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Would you say the case against Pence for most pro Trump people stems from Pence's unwillingness to reject electoral college votes?

Pence is quoted: “President Trump demanded that I use my authority as vice president presiding over the count of the Electoral College to essentially overturn the election by returning or literally rejecting votes. I had no authority to do that.”
Yes, he did. In fact if I recall, there is historical precedent for exactly this procedure. Pence is lying, as a well bred swamp creature would.

I rate Pence down there with Kamalatov. Hopelessly unelectable.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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It’s the strangest thing,why do SO many people prefer an unGODly man over Mike Pence.It boggles my mind.

Mike Pence wasn't top of the ticket last time. So far De Santis is way out in front of him. If came to Pence vs Biden, it's Pence all the way.
 

cv5

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ThereRoseaLamb

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Would any of these make your list?

1.) Expedite "an experimental" vaccine at all cost which many feel are responsible for the deaths of thousands (potentially millions) of people, many of which are very young.
So first he wasn't acting fast enough so he was killing millions, then when he does act he's still killing millions. Can't please people.

2.) Appoint alligator after alligator to the swamp when they campaigned to drain the swamp.
Not a career politician, takes time to identify swamp dwellers. And the Dems were on his tail 24/7 I don't know how he got done what he did.


3.) Non-repentant serial adulterer (someone who has committed multiple accounts of adultery but refuses to ask for forgiveness).
None of our business. You don't know what he said to his wife. After Clinton, that's his private life and has no bearing on his job as president. A lot of Christians got Clinton elected a second time. So now that stands for every president, both sides. Biden hasn't apologized for his adulatory, you didn't point that out though did you?


4.) Being friends/partying with questionable people ranging from Kanye West to Bill Clinton to Jeffrey Epstein (prior to having falling outs with them).
But he did have falling outs with them. Told Epstein to stay away from his properties. I disagree with West on his opinion on the Jews, I think he's a troubled person being torn apart by the media.
 

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I never thought Pence was a good candidate for VP, much less president. I really don't know why Trump picked him initially.

Having said that, I would replace "Pence" with" DeSantis". He seems to have most of the positives Republicans love about Trump but none of the baggage. This is just my opinion for what it's worth (not saying much), but I think DeSantis gives Republicans a more viable option to the executive branch, even if their ideals and loyalty are to Trump.

I would love to hear the case against DeSantis over Trump.
I fully agree with you about Ron DeSantis.
 

cv5

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I never thought Pence was a good candidate for VP, much less president. I really don't know why Trump picked him initially.

Having said that, I would replace "Pence" with" DeSantis". He seems to have most of the positives Republicans love about Trump but none of the baggage. This is just my opinion for what it's worth (not saying much), but I think DeSantis gives Republicans a more viable option to the executive branch, even if their ideals and loyalty are to Trump.

I would love to hear the case against DeSantis over Trump.
I have heard that DeSantis knows the secret handshake....which is bad. But he did shake up Florida big time. First day in office fired ALL of the old guard.

This is EXACTLY what Trump should have done. Trump was so stupid that he did not understand that you have EVERY RIGHT as boss to surround yourself with loyalists.
 

Smoke

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So first he wasn't acting fast enough so he was killing millions, then when he does act he's still killing millions. Can't please people.
Well, the left said he wasn't acting fast enough. The right said the vaccine was unsafe. So out of curiosity, was it the right move to create the vaccine? Trump does claim he saved millions of lives by doing so... However, a large percentage of his devout followers say it's a kill shot or at the very least, killing many people from young to old, from sedentary life style to career athletes.



Not a career politician, takes time to identify swamp dwellers. And the Dems were on his tail 24/7 I don't know how he got done what he did.
So it takes a career politician to spot the alligators? Interestingly, the majority of his base aren't politicians... neither am I... yet, we saw RIGHT THROUGH Dr. Fauci. I mean, it's one thing to not be able to identify alligators and another to straight up appoint them as well. Feel free to make excuses for why he did the exact OPPOSITE from what he pledged in his campaign.

None of our business. You don't know what he said to his wife. After Clinton, that's his private life and has no bearing on his job as president. A lot of Christians got Clinton elected a second time. So now that stands for every president, both sides. Biden hasn't apologized for his adulatory, you didn't point that out though did you?
Why do I need to know what he said to his wife to know that he is an unrepentant serial adulterer? He was asked if he ever asked God for forgiveness for anything he has ever done... He straight up told the interviewer and the crowdy that he hasn't. He's making it EVERYONE'S business when he professes on a national stage that he has never asked for forgiveness.

I also don't know what Clinton has to do with this point whatsoever. The question I asked was if any of the points I made would make his list. Now that you did bring up Clinton though, that was the first time I heard Republicans make a statement that they would never vote for someone who would cheat on their wife because if you can't be faithful to your own wife, how can you be faithful to the American people? I'm not saying those are my sentiments... I'm just repeating what was said then... and decades later, the goal post has drastically moved.


But he did have falling outs with them. Told Epstein to stay away from his properties. I disagree with West on his opinion on the Jews, I think he's a troubled person being torn apart by the media.
Yes, but the falling out was because of property... From all accounts, it was widely known the whoredoms Epstein was up to. He has a knack for not only being incapable of identifying the alligators and disgusting low-moral people, but initially being drawn to them as well.

Also, before you bring up Clinton being on Epstein's plane a billion times, I am not here to defend or even attack him. However disgusting Clinton is, is irrelevant to the fact Trump has done some shady/incompetent things in his past... some of which may be disqualifying points to add to Joe Biden's list had he done them.