Jesus Fulfilled the Law. But What Does That Mean?

[Blik]

Matthews 5 and Hebrews 8 explains fully what the Lord means when we are told Christ fulfilled the law.

We learn in Matt. 5:18 that Christ did not change the law, the law will never change until all is completed. Then the rest of the long chapter of Matthew explains how Christ fulfilled the law. It is the difference between the old covenant and the new covenant.

The old covenant given on Mt Sinia was not a spiritual covenant written on the hearts of man, but taught to man in fleshly symbols. A major symbol given was the cutting of flesh to symbolize circumcision that Christ changed to a spiritual circumcision of the heart.

 

[ThyKingdomComeSoon]

this is a good thoughtful post

did you ever notice that Jesus makes a distinction adding more understanding later ? so Jesus said this

“Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭5:17-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

also he’s actually saying “ I came to fulfil and nothing will change until it’s fulfilled “ later he explains what he meant better


“And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

( this has focused us on what was going to be fulfilled everything the law and prophets said about the messiah )

Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, (the law and prophets ) and said unto them, Thus it is written, ( in the law and prophets )

and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:


and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. And ye are witnesses of these things.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭24:44-48‬ ‭KJV‬‬

see Jesus wasn’t ever saying “ I’ve come to obey Moses law “ he’s saying I’ve come to fulfill everything the law and prophets said about me the messiah

when I realized this other things Jesus said made sense like this

“Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.


For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:39-40, 45-47‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jesus is all throughout the ot he’s just hidden the ot is prophetic about him like this that Moses said about Jesus

“I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭18:18-19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jesus came to fulfill this and so

“He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.”
‭‭John‬ ‭12:48-50‬ ‭KJV‬‬

And Peter then confirms this when he received the Holy Spirit afterwards

“For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people. Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days. Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭3:22-24, 26‬ ‭

The law and prophets foretell the coming of Jesus from his birth to his crucifixion and ascention to the right hand of God is all in the law and prophets Jesus was saying “ I’ve come to bring all those promises to pass in the one they were all talking about hear me and be saved “

Hello pilgrim, I agree with most you quoted or wrote but not the following;

see Jesus wasn’t ever saying “ I’ve come to obey Moses law “ he’s saying I’ve come to fulfill everything the law and prophets said about me the messiah

Jesus was flawless in obeying the law! He fulfilled it and Magnified it! He explained how to do it with love first to out Holy Father Then by loving our fellow man instead of by obeying it blindly and carelessly like the pharisee did. He did explain all of this clearly his words are also clear and True when he said;

Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.

Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

His words are clear and not opened to interpretation.

When the times comes the New covenant will be in effect as prophesied in Jeremiah

Jeremiah 31:31-34

31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days ( see note), saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

This time has not come yet, look around, does it look like the prophecy described has some to pass?

NOTE:After those days follows the chronology in jeremiah;

Jeremiah 30:7, which says, “Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob’s trouble; but he shall be saved out of it” corresponding to last days just before the return of Christ the son of GOD.

Blessings.

 

[Blik]

When the times comes[/U] the New covenant will be in effect as prophesied in Jeremiah

Jeremiah 31:31-34

31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days ( see note), saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

This time has not come yet, look around, does it look like the prophecy described has some to pass?

NOTE:After those days follows the chronology in jeremiah;

Jeremiah 30:7, which says, “Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob’s trouble; but he shall be saved out of it” corresponding to last days just before the return of Christ the son of GOD.

Blessings.

The time has come when we are under the new covenant. Christ brought in the new covenant, a covenant that brings God's commands into our hearts. Before God was within the temple with the ark,

now God is within our hearts. We are the temple, not a temple of stone.

1 Cor. 6:19 Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own;

 

[Aaron56]

From the Father, not from the Son.

Common error.

Christ received the right to represent the Father in every way. And this is recorded:

Jesus is speaking! “Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you.”

 

[ResidentAlien]

Any doctrine that teaches a person can be justified by works of the law is a lie. The Judaizers have gotten clever. They preach Christ, but then slip in the part about keeping the law; only now the law is in the heart instead stone. Christ is our salvation, not the law, regardless if the law is in stone or in our hearts. The law brings knowledge of sin. Why in the world would anyone want to confess Christ then return to the law?

"Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin." Romans 3:20

" . . . a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified." Galatians 2:16

"For if there had been a law given which could have given life, truly righteousness would have been by the law." Galatians 3:21

"For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but a new creation." Galatians 6:15

"I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed." Galatians 1:6-9

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Hello pilgrim, I agree with most you quoted or wrote but not the following;

see Jesus wasn’t ever saying “ I’ve come to obey Moses law “ he’s saying I’ve come to fulfill everything the law and prophets said about me the messiah

Jesus was flawless in obeying the law! He fulfilled it and Magnified it! He explained how to do it with love first to out Holy Father Then by loving our fellow man instead of by obeying it blindly and carelessly like the pharisee did. He did explain all of this clearly his words are also clear and True when he said;

Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.

Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

His words are clear and not opened to interpretation.

When the times comes the New covenant will be in effect as prophesied in Jeremiah

Jeremiah 31:31-34

31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days ( see note), saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

This time has not come yet, look around, does it look like the prophecy described has some to pass?

NOTE:After those days follows the chronology in jeremiah;

Jeremiah 30:7, which says, “Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob’s trouble; but he shall be saved out of it” corresponding to last days just before the return of Christ the son of GOD.

Blessings.

“see Jesus wasn’t ever saying “ I’ve come to obey Moses law “ he’s saying I’ve come to fulfill everything the law and prophets said about me the messiah”

when did Jesus say I’ve come to obey the law of Moses ?

“Jesus was flawless in obeying the law! “

which parts of the law do you say he obeyed ? What I mean is the Ten Commandments ? The entire law of Moses written in his book ?

id love to discuss this but not sure what you mean by “ the law “ it seems a lot of folks have different versions of what “the law “even is

Did Jesus ever do any work on a sabbath for instance ?

And have you ever noticed jesus taught opposite things from Moses ?

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Hello pilgrim, I agree with most you quoted or wrote but not the following;

see Jesus wasn’t ever saying “ I’ve come to obey Moses law “ he’s saying I’ve come to fulfill everything the law and prophets said about me the messiah

Jesus was flawless in obeying the law! He fulfilled it and Magnified it! He explained how to do it with love first to out Holy Father Then by loving our fellow man instead of by obeying it blindly and carelessly like the pharisee did. He did explain all of this clearly his words are also clear and True when he said;

Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.

Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

His words are clear and not opened to interpretation.

When the times comes the New covenant will be in effect as prophesied in Jeremiah

Jeremiah 31:31-34

31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days ( see note), saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

This time has not come yet, look around, does it look like the prophecy described has some to pass?

NOTE:After those days follows the chronology in jeremiah;

Jeremiah 30:7, which says, “Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob’s trouble; but he shall be saved out of it” corresponding to last days just before the return of Christ the son of GOD.

Blessings.

also did you notice this part of what you quoted here ?

I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:”

“
Ill make a new covenant not according to the one I made from Sinai with the children of Israel “

 

[Blik]

“see Jesus wasn’t ever saying “ I’ve come to obey Moses law “ he’s saying I’ve come to fulfill everything the law and prophets said about me the messiah”

when did Jesus say I’ve come to obey the law of Moses ?

“Jesus was flawless in obeying the law! “

which parts of the law do you say he obeyed ? What I mean is the Ten Commandments ? The entire law of Moses written in his book ?

id love to discuss this but not sure what you mean by “ the law “ it seems a lot of folks have different versions of what “the law “even is

Did Jesus ever do any work on a sabbath for instance ?

And have you ever noticed jesus taught opposite things from Moses ?

God gave us the law of Moses, God does not make mistakes and the law given to Moses by God is an eternal law. Christ said he did not change it, but there was a change in the way it was presented.

Moses gave us the law in stone, but Christ gave us the same law in our hearts. We obey with out spirit, not with fleshly symbolic acts,

 

[ResidentAlien]

God gave us the law of Moses, God does not make mistakes and the law given to Moses by God is an eternal law. Christ said he did not change it, but there was a change in the way it was presented.

Moses gave us the law in stone, but Christ gave us the same law in our hearts. We obey with out spirit, not with fleshly symbolic acts,

When it says I will put my laws in their hearts it's not talking about the law of Moses but Christ's teachings and commandments. You are seriously mistaken.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

God gave us the law of Moses, God does not make mistakes and the law given to Moses by God is an eternal law. Christ said he did not change it, but there was a change in the way it was presented.

Moses gave us the law in stone, but Christ gave us the same law in our hearts. We obey with out spirit, not with fleshly symbolic acts,

“God gave us the law of Moses, God does not make mistakes and the law given to Moses by God is an eternal law.”

I’ve never said God makes mistakes I’m saying the Bible says what it says regardless if we can’t accept it this is your word

“the law given to Moses by God is an eternal law.”

This is what Jesus says

“The law and the prophets were until John:

since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭16:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The Bible says there are two covenants one given from Mount sinai ordained of angels and mediated by Moses

and another better one that was spoken by Jesus Christ our lord which Moses foretold all along

I can’t really say much because you reject what Paul is saying it’s hard to discuss because like this yoh won’t acknolwedge anything he’s saying you just reject it and claim it’s all wrong sister read this and let it be true

“For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. And the law is not of faith: ( you have never been able to simply say yes Paul’s right about this )

but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, ( again you cant acknolwedge the law was an addition ) cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.


Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, ( you won’t hear this though )

till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; ( you won’t hear this though it’s permanent for you it’s not until Christ came like Paul’s explaining ) )

and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.( you won’t hear this part though even after I showed you God handing them over to the angels after they worshipped the calf )

Now a mediator is not a mediator of one,

but God is one. ( father son Holy ghost )

But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:10-12, 17-20, 23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

a you can’t acknowledge anything Paul’s explaining about the law blick we’ve done this many times and you just ignore the scripture and say what you think I love reading a lot of your posts bout other matters but the law you don’t understand this subject

you can read this entire chapter 3 written by Paul and then you will explain Moses law is the eternal covenant of God d will never change……it’s hard to discuss this particular subject with you simply because you won’t hear the New Testament apostles and what they are explaining to about the law

when the apostles explain things we are meant to hear it and accept it

Like this

“For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭10:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Or this

“Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God. For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭7:4-6‬ ‭

or this

“and not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished: but their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭3:13-15‬ ‭

sister you will never let anything they have taught about the law in

 

[ThyKingdomComeSoon]

The Holy Spirit, upon Christ’s ascension, was given to convict us of sin:

Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you. And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment

And a bit later…

However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.

So we are assured, by having the same Spirit in us that is in the Father, that is in the Son, and who will only speak what He hears from the Son, that we may always walk in the Spirit.

This is a way that is much more restrained when compared to the Law of Sinai. As a son of God, we are led by the Spirit. Under the law that makes slaves, for example, there is no rule for removing a rock from a river bed. Yet, as a son, if the Spirit directs us to remove the rock we are obligated to move it. To do otherwise is sin. This sin is not found in the Law that was made with the Jews. This sin is only known because it is known by the Spirit and in our spirits. For one who is led by the Spirit, which is the basest standard of life in Christ as sons of God, the Law is of no benefit.

Let me be very plain: to say we need the Law to walk as true believers is to promote a slave contract with God. Only a slave, who have no way to inherit the Kingdom of God would promote such an exchange. Ultimately, such a contract is demonic because the demons are under such a contract: they are perpetual servants and can never inherit the Father’s kingdom. That is why Judaizers and those who say we still need the Law should be ignored outright with never another thought paid to their doctrine.

So if I extrapolate, we could conclude that Christ was a slave of his father? with all the implications mentioned in your last paragraph? You follow the law because you love The Holy Father and the son who gave is the law and who ask us to follow it! the law is not grievous! 1 john 5:3
""For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous."" One day when the commandments are in men's hearts it will be true but it is not the case now. see my post no 42

Blessings.

 

[ThyKingdomComeSoon]

It is spiritually refreshing to read of another who understands about learning directly from our Savior, Jesus Yeshua. Equally encouraging and blessing is to hear another voice just how important the Commandment to love God with all our heart, soul and understanding is.
It has always been my blessed understanding that if a person saved does this, he or she is fulfilling all of the law, statues and commandments that are contained in the Love of our Father, under grace and mercy at all times. Forgive my clumsy working, but I believe I am understood. God bless you always.

Brother, Thank you for your Kind Words, much appreciated!

Peace be upon you.

 

[ThyKingdomComeSoon]

I hear what you are saying here, but I honestly do not believe that there is any discrepancy or omission here whatsoever. How can I say that? Simply because of context.

Galatians 5:13-15

"For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another."

If we look at Galatians 5:14 in context, then it is rather obvious that Paul is describing the proper type of relationship between a man and his neighbor or what we might call a horizontal relationship. With this in mind, it makes perfect sense that he would only quote the second part of the two commandments which Jesus said all of the law and the prophets hang on because that is the commandment that pertains to our dealings with our neighbors.

The same principle applies to the quote from Romans.

Romans 13:8-9

"Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself."

Once more, Paul was dealing with horizontal relationships or our interactions with our fellow man, so it makes perfect sense that he would only quote the second of the two commandments on which all of the law and the prophets hang because that is the one that pertains to our relationship with our fellow man.

Can you find then verses where Apostle Paul quotes the commandments to love GOD. It must be in the N.T. somewhere but I could not locate.


Blessings

 

[ThyKingdomComeSoon]

Thayer's Greek Lexicon is helpful in understanding what was being said:
STRONGS NT 4137: πληρόω (pleroo)
1. to make full, to fill, to fill up:
2. to render full, i. e. to complete;
a. properly, to fill up to the top:
b. to perfect, consummate;
c. to carry into effect, bring to realization, realize; α. of matters of duty, to perform, execute:

As we can see, the meaning is a little more complex than we realize, and there are several aspects to Christ's fulfilling of the Law.
1. Christ gave a fuller meaning to many aspects of the Law as in the Sermon on the Mount
2. He Himself completed all the sacrifices of the Law in Himself when He hung on the cross
3. He filled to the top the meaning of the Law which is essentially the Law of Love
4. He perfected or consummated the Law in fulfilling many prophecies about Himself
5. He executed the Law perfectly as we see in His using the Sabbath for healings

But then He also said that He did not come to abolish it. That was true for the duration of His life on earth as Jesus of Nazareth, who was "made under the Law". The Jews did not know in detail that the Father and the Son had already planned to replace the Old Covenant with the New Covenant. And He did not need to expound on that while He was on earth. But the day Christ was crucified, the Law came to an end. Thus Paul said that "Christ is the end of the Law for righteousness".

Hello Nehemiah, I have written a reply that is pretty much how I wanted to reply to you on this, it also explains why I think we are not yet under the new covenant please see post 42

I would also add to this matthew 24 verses 11-14 (YLT);

Mat 24:11 'And many false prophets shall arise, and shall lead many astray;
Mat 24:12 and because of the abounding of the lawlessness, the love of the many shall become cold;
Mat 24:13 but he who did endure to the end, he shall be saved;
Mat 24:14 and this good news of the reign shall be proclaimed in all the world, for a testimony to all the nations; and then shall the end arrive.

these verses are as you know about the end times, personally I think we are close. I do not see a new covenant in effect with people following the law in their hearts at this time. I think it will be later when Jesus returns, so for my part because of scriptures the commandments are still in effect but the way Jesus lived and had been reaching them with love and respect for the Holy father and for our neighbours. Jesus showed the way and planted the seeds for the kingdom to grow He made all things possible.

Blessings.

 

[Ted01]

Matthews 5 and Hebrews 8 explains fully what the Lord means when we are told Christ fulfilled the law.

We learn in Matt. 5:18 that Christ did not change the law, the law will never change until all is completed. Then the rest of the long chapter of Matthew explains how Christ fulfilled the law. It is the difference between the old covenant and the new covenant.

The old covenant given on Mt Sinia was not a spiritual covenant written on the hearts of man, but taught to man in fleshly symbols. A major symbol given was the cutting of flesh to symbolize circumcision that Christ changed to a spiritual circumcision of the heart.

Didn't Jesus say in Matt. 5:18
18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

Not an iota, not a dot will pass away from the Law until all is accomplished? Right?
And yet iotas and dots have passed away... the temple has been destroyed, there are no more priests, sacrifices and all commands pertaining to such things... all gone.
According to Jesus, nothing would pass until ALL was accomplished... and since iotas and dots have passed away, we can be assured that ALL has been accomplished.

 

[ThyKingdomComeSoon]

"do away with" (completely) - no; "repeal" - in a sense, yes - so that we are not bound by it.

"do away with" in the same sense as "repeal" - yes.

You see - He did not 'destroy' it - but, He did - in a sense - 'invalidate' it.

Jesus the son of GOD, did not invalidate it; here is the proof in Jesus's own words (KJV);

Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

BLessings.

 

[Grace911]

Jesus the son of GOD, did not invalidate it; here is the proof in Jesus's own words (KJV);

Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

BLessings.

The following two scriptures seem to contradict. Can you help understand?

Psalms 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.

Hebrews 7:19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.

 

[Ted01]

The following two scriptures seem to contradict. Can you help understand?

Psalms 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.

Hebrews 7:19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.

I see no contradiction...

 

[JaumeJ]

The following two scriptures seem to contradict. Can you help understand?

Psalms 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.

Hebrews 7:19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.

In my own studies I have read and heard hints to the effect that the laws were pervaded by man, or, rabbinical traditions. This is why Jesus Yeshua had to correct the Pharisees and others as to what constitutes a true law.

 

[selahsays]

Jesus the son of GOD, did not invalidate it; here is the proof in Jesus's own words (KJV);

Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

BLessings.

Amen. Jesus Christ fulfilled the Law; only He could. ….but the Law (10 commandments) has not been done away with; it remains with us. Let’s take as an example the seventh commandment—”Thou shalt not steal.” What happens today if you steal? You go to jail, right? So we can see that the 10 commandments are still very much with us and a part of our lives. . . . But the blood ordinances were taken away and dealt with by our Savior; they were nailed to the Cross. ~selah