question: Can an unsaved person be baptized in the Holy Spirit?

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My Bible says John the Baptist was the Last True Prophet.

So, whose this False Prophet saying Tongues ceased in past 1900 years?
 
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Lamar said:
Why would you need a "PROPHET" to say "Tongues has Ceased"???

What would be the purpose?
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Because God used Prophets to announce changes. If there's a change in Tongues, a Prophet would be required to say it's ceased.

God is SAME yesterday today and forever.
 
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So, WHO, is this Prophet in past 1900 years since John the Baptist is the Last Prophet?
 
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
My Bible says John the Baptist was the Last True Prophet.

So, whose this False Prophet saying Tongues ceased in past 1900 years?
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Where does the Bible say "John the Baptist was the Last True Prophet"???
 
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
Because God used Prophets to announce changes. If there's a change in Tongues, a Prophet would be required to say it's ceased.

God is SAME yesterday today and forever.
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So what Prophet announced the ceasing of the supernatural blessings of manna?
 
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Lamar said:
Okay, God stopped sending the blessings of manna to the Israelites. They could no longer rely on the supernatural supply of food.
God did not tell them that this supernatural blessing was going to end.

He just stopped it. No warning.

Joshua 5:12
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They were literally in a land flowing with milk and honey and not the desert anymore.
 
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Tongues is such a vital thing to happen in the Bible it would only stop when God announces it will stop.

And no one is qualified to be God's voice any more or for the past 1900 years.
 
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A Preacher sole job is read the Bible explain it and give modern day examples.

Not a single Preacher has ever been qualified to say, God said, Tongues ceased.

If they claim they're of God, we know better.
 
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yeah, I see NO EVIDENCE of a Prophet in the past 1900 years on any Biblical Topic!

Especially, you Baptist, I know because i used to be one and do same thing, are good at saying Prophets don't exist today.

I agree!

They haven't since John the Baptist.

so, WHO, is this so-called Prophet, to announce Tongues has Ceased in the past 1900 years?
 
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
A Preacher sole job is read the Bible explain it and give modern day examples.

Not a single Preacher has ever been qualified to say, God said, Tongues ceased.

If they claim they're of God, we know better.
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ok well first of well done for apologizing.

Now at the same time which prophet has announced that baptism does not save an unsaved person.

I'm not just speaking of baptism I'm talking about deliverance,

I'm talking about laying of hands by somebody blessed with the holy spirit.

I'm talking about an unclean spirit leaving a person when the blessed person full of the holy spirit lays his hands on a person and blesses him in the name of the Jesus

Then such person can be baptised to recieve the spirit and be saved.

He confesses before Being submerged in water by a person filled with the holy spirit.

He then gets baptised by the same person for confirmation.
 
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Fundaamental said:
ok well first of well done for apologizing.

Now at the same time which prophet has announced that baptism does not save an unsaved person.

I'm not just speaking of baptism I'm talking about deliverance,

I'm talking about laying of hands by somebody blessed with the holy spirit.

I'm talking about an unclean spirit leaving a person when the blessed person full of the holy spirit lays his hands on a person and blesses him in the name of the holy spirit.

Then such person can be baptised to recieve the spirit and be saved.

He confesses before Being submerged in water by a person filled with the holy spirit.

He then gets baptised by the same person for confirmation.
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the Bible clearly says, a person HEARS the Gospel, Believes, then God Invites Himself into their heart. they are filled with the Holy Spirit, then you get Water Baptized.

is this what you're saying?
 
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
the Bible clearly says, a person HEARS the Gospel, Believes, then God Invites Himself into their heart. they are filled with the Holy Spirit, then you get Water Baptized.

is this what you're saying?
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No im talking about a person who can not recieve the holy spirit because he needs deliverance.
 
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Cameron143 said:
They were literally in a land flowing with milk and honey and not the desert anymore.
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That does not answer the question at hand.

I will repeat the question.

Which prophet announced the ceasing of the supernatural blessing of manna?

The_Watchers_2017 claimed that a prophet must announce the end of a God given supernatural blessing.

Which prophet announced it. I will give you a hint. Look up Joshua 5:12.

Just a note: Watchers disagrees with your answer, he thinks its because they complained??? Either way still wrong.
 
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Lamar said:
That does not answer the question at hand.

I will repeat the question.

Which prophet announced the ceasing of the supernatural blessing of manna?

The_Watchers_2017 claimed that a prophet must announce the end of a God given supernatural blessing.

Which prophet announced it. I will give you a hint. Look up Joshua 5:12.

Just a note: Watchers disagrees with your answer, he thinks its because they complained??? Either way still wrong.
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Why did they have corn to eat in the first place?

They complained.
 
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Fundaamental said:
did I not make that clear 🤔

Possession
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God is powerful enough this person can be saved from someone telling them about the Gospel of Jesus and the Holy Spirit can remove the spirit if the person wants what God has to offer.

But other than that, casting the spirit out is most effective way.
 
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