Ukraine the bad guy?

[cv5]

NATO is not a business or a country. Russia will get nothing from Ukraine. If anything, Russia will be paying reparations for an illegal invasion of a sovereign nation.

Yea anything is possible. But you had better start building subs, ships and aircraft faster than the Chinese bro. Which seem extremely unlikely. Anything less is mindless braggadocio and mere puffery.

Just get a load of this belligerent, venal and vacuous NATO saber-rattling. China is a horrific nightmare yes I agree. As is Russia. But these kinds of venal diatribes by the war-mongering NATO nutters are beyond hypocritical.

And truth be told, Australia and America are not far behind in the dictator/police state/goose-stepping race to the bottom. Both nations are just about kaput IMO. Dead broke, corrupt and desperate. The US DOJ has to be considered the most corrupt justice system on the planet by now. Hunter walks while the whistleblower faces 100 years in the slammer. What a joke.

Nato leaders slam China for Russia ties and Taiwan threats in sternest rebuke to date
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/art...-ties-and-taiwan-threats-sternest-rebuke-date

Nato issued its strongest rebuke of China to date on Tuesday, lashing out at its “coercive policies” and “deepening strategic partnership” with Russia. (aka making the wrong friends without our permission)

A joint communique agreed by the military alliance’s 31 member states addressed Beijing at length, accusing it of opaquely building up its military power, (we accept no challengers) “amplifying Russia’s false narrative” on the war in Ukraine, (how dare you express your opinion?) and using its economic might to “create strategic dependencies and enhance its influence”. (only NATO has the right to do so)

“China is increasingly challenging the rules-based international order, (aka we make the rules and give the orders) refusing to condemn Russia’s war against Ukraine, threatening Taiwan and carrying out substantial military build-up,” (that we have no hope of equaling because we are dead broke)said Nato Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg at a press conference on Tuesday, the first of the bloc’s two-day gathering.

Its all a joke. Come Lord Jesus and get us out of here!

 

[Fundaamental]

NATO is not a business or a country. Russia will get nothing from Ukraine. If anything, Russia will be paying reparations for an illegal invasion of a sovereign nation. I don't know how you arrive at your conclusions. They make no sense.

Do you know what a royalty is? Let me enlighten you: "A sum paid to a patentee for the use of a patent or to an author or composer for each copy of a book sold or for each public performance of a work."

NATO won't need to deal with Russia to end the war. Ukraine will most likely prevail. Most of the hardware supplied to Ukraine to date is older equipment taken out of storage. It's cost comparatively little. The US left vast amounts of military hardware in Afghanistan, and before that, Vietnam. It's all paid for by the taxpayer. What does the goverment care?

I see your not listening,

royalties can mean what you want it to.

What I mean is Russia will get money payed on a regular basis once the war is over by NATO.

Russia has already officially declared some parts of Ukraine as there land now.

And Russia sees The whole of Ukraine as once there land.

But the truth is Russia ain't bothered, Russia only want, whatever rich mining there is in Ukraine

So there you have Russia's stake in Ukraine.

The only way Ukraine can be come apart of NATO is, for NATO to buy Ukraine out.

Then NATO control Ukraine.

At the same time Russia gets payed out but also gets any further money from certain lands of mining. Those are royalties to.

 

[BearerOfTheMorningStar]

In fairness to Unholy Russia's fanboys, Unholy Russia cannot pay reparations or royalties or anything at all at the end of this war that they started because despite thuggishly fighting against the little kingdoms of the world, Unholy Russia is so foolish and wicked that they also fights against the Kingdom not of this world, and it is determined upon them for their high evil that God is going to finish them so thoroughly that he will destroy them even into the spirit. This means that Unholy Russia will be destroyed in all ways; politically, militarily, economically, diplomatically, culturally, legally, spiritually., literally in all ways. Evil Excommunicated Wicked Unholy Russia will cease to exist as an entity therefore you cannot bill them. Watch and know as you see Evil Russia get destroyed by the hand of the only true God that we all owe an unpayable debt for saving us of PRAISE TO JESUS

 

[Fundaamental]

In fairness to Unholy Russia's fanboys, Unholy Russia cannot pay reparations or royalties or anything at all at the end of this war that they started because despite thuggishly fighting against the little kingdoms of the world, Unholy Russia is so foolish and wicked that they also fights against the Kingdom not of this world, and it is determined upon them for their high evil that God is going to finish them so thoroughly that he will destroy them even into the spirit. This means that Unholy Russia will be destroyed in all ways; politically, militarily, economically, diplomatically, culturally, legally, spiritually., literally in all ways. Evil Excommunicated Wicked Unholy Russia will cease to exist as an entity therefore you cannot bill them. Watch and know as you see Evil Russia get destroyed by the hand of the only true God that we all owe an unpayable debt for saving us of PRAISE TO JESUS

Oh well I cant see any Sodom and gomorrah, happening anytime soon

There's no way russia with the amount of land they have and nukes and trade deals they have will be wiped out.

Ain't going to happen.

Maybe in the land of flying pigs it will

 

[cv5]

NATO is not a business or a country. Russia will get nothing from Ukraine. If anything, Russia will be paying reparations for an illegal invasion of a sovereign nation. I don't know how you arrive at your conclusions. They make no sense.

Do you know what a royalty is? Let me enlighten you: "A sum paid to a patentee for the use of a patent or to an author or composer for each copy of a book sold or for each public performance of a work."

NATO won't need to deal with Russia to end the war. Ukraine will most likely prevail. Most of the hardware supplied to Ukraine to date is older equipment taken out of storage. It's cost comparatively little. The US left vast amounts of military hardware in Afghanistan, and before that, Vietnam. It's all paid for by the taxpayer. What does the goverment care?

Here you go friend. At least we can both agree that there is at least ONE honest politician in the Aussie government.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1676311550842515456

 

[BearerOfTheMorningStar]

Oh well I cant see any Sodom and gomorrah, happening anytime soon

There's no way russia with the amount of land they have and nukes and trade deals they have will be wiped out.

Ain't going to happen.

Maybe in the land of flying pigs it will

You'll be surprised then, God's Kingdom is already at hand destroying Wicked Russia in all ways even beyond the flesh. Our God can use a shepherd boy and a rock to bring the giant down and we will forgive you when you see it and are amazed but on that day when you see it remember to the real hero and PRAISE JESUS

 

[Fundaamental]

Dude just got kicked to the curb. And he knows it. No NATO membership.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1678926553252524032

According to the media, there has been a fast track plan set into motion, for Ukraine to join NATO.

In 15 years why has hasn't this happened and why won't it happen anytime soon.

Rumours have it Ukraine may join NATO soon it may happen soon with nato buying Ukraine out.

Or shall we say, sell them out.

You know the previous handshakes

https://youtube.com/shorts/USpBVIdSjsY?feature=sharehttps://youtube.com/shorts/USpBVIdSjsY?feature=share

 

[Gideon300]

Oh well I cant see any Sodom and gomorrah, happening anytime soon

There's no way russia with the amount of land they have and nukes and trade deals they have will be wiped out.

Ain't going to happen.

Maybe in the land of flying pigs it will

Russia is a federation of different cultures that are held together by a strong leader. Putin has weakened himself. It is possible that a number of states will break away. Yugoslavia fell apart after Tito died. So it's not unprecedented.

 

[Gideon300]

I see your not listening,

royalties can mean what you want it to.

What I mean is Russia will get money payed on a regular basis once the war is over by NATO.

Russia has already officially declared some parts of Ukraine as there land now.

And Russia sees The whole of Ukraine as once there land.

But the truth is Russia ain't bothered, Russia only want, whatever rich mining there is in Ukraine

So there you have Russia's stake in Ukraine.

The only way Ukraine can be come apart of NATO is, for NATO to buy Ukraine out.

Then NATO control Ukraine.

At the same time Russia gets payed out but also gets any further money from certain lands of mining. Those are royalties to.

Russia can think or believe what it likes. Legally, they have no claim on Ukraine whatsoever. When the USSR fell apart, a whole lot of countries became independent. Putin can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. The West is happy to see Russia self destruct over Ukraine. There is nothing "official" about Russia's land grab. If the West had kicked Russia out of Ukraine in 2014, this war would never have happened. France made the same mistake with Germany prior to WW2. When will they learn?

The only mining that Russia is doing in Ukraine is the exploding kind. They will reap what they sow.

No, royalties does not mean what you want it to. If you want to communicate in writing, you'd better be precise in your choice of words. Otherwise you will be misunderstood and you will confuse people.

 

[Fundaamental]

Russia can think or believe what it likes. Legally, they have no claim on Ukraine whatsoever. When the USSR fell apart, a whole lot of countries became independent. Putin can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. The West is happy to see Russia self destruct over Ukraine. There is nothing "official" about Russia's land grab. If the West had kicked Russia out of Ukraine in 2014, this war would never have happened. France made the same mistake with Germany prior to WW2. When will they learn?

legally ha that's a joke. Are you forgetting past hand shakes between Russia and the USA.


Russia annexed Donetsk
And Luhansk and two other places.

That will be one legal channel they hold.

Then there be will others cards they have for defending them.

It will be cheaper to strike a deal

There all in it together

 

[Gideon300]

legally ha that's a joke. Are you forgetting past hand shakes between Russia and the USA.


Russia annexed Donetsk
And Luhansk and two other places.

That will be one legal channel they hold.

Then there be will others cards they have for defending them.

It will be cheaper to strike a deal

There all in it together

It may work out as you imagine. I doubt it. And whatever you say, it will not be legal. You try walking into a business with a gun and saying, "It's my business now". That what Russia has done in Ukraine. There are consequences.

 

[ZNP]

It may work out as you imagine. I doubt it. And whatever you say, it will not be legal. You try walking into a business with a gun and saying, "It's my business now". That what Russia has done in Ukraine. There are consequences.

This is why they have hesitated for so long to challenge NATO and the US, either you lose or you win, there is no other option, and winning means defeating the US and NATO.

 

[Fundaamental]

It may work out as you imagine. I doubt it. And whatever you say, it will not be legal. You try walking into a business with a gun and saying, "It's my business now". That what Russia has done in Ukraine. There are consequences.

Nothing becomes legal until a peace deal is struck.

And you never find out what the peace deal will be

It's called privacy rights.

The term legality doesn't mean Justice,

It's just means Justice will uphold what ever legal terms are set in place.

Until the next coup.

Or untill a new terrorist organisation comes up with a plan to get into the lobbies of power.

So you'll find Justice also upholds legality of the wrong sort.

 

[cv5]

According to the media, there has been a fast track plan set into motion, for Ukraine to join NATO.

In 15 years why has hasn't this happened and why won't it happen anytime soon.

Rumours have it Ukraine may join NATO soon it may happen soon with nato buying Ukraine out.

Or shall we say, sell them out.

You know the previous handshakes

https://youtube.com/shorts/USpBVIdSjsY?feature=sharehttps://youtube.com/shorts/USpBVIdSjsY?feature=share

So you are saying 350K Ukrainians get slaughtered/sacrificed in a pre-planned scam going waaay back to the fall of the Soviet Union, the country is wrecked in the process, then the NATO vultures swoop in to divvy up the carcass?

Geopolitically this theory sound par for the course, with a ton of historical precident.

 

[cv5]

In fairness to Unholy Russia's fanboys, Unholy Russia cannot pay reparations or royalties or anything at all at the end of this war that they started because despite thuggishly fighting against the little kingdoms of the world, Unholy Russia is so foolish and wicked that they also fights against the Kingdom not of this world, and it is determined upon them for their high evil that God is going to finish them so thoroughly that he will destroy them even into the spirit. This means that Unholy Russia will be destroyed in all ways; politically, militarily, economically, diplomatically, culturally, legally, spiritually., literally in all ways. Evil Excommunicated Wicked Unholy Russia will cease to exist as an entity therefore you cannot bill them. Watch and know as you see Evil Russia get destroyed by the hand of the only true God that we all owe an unpayable debt for saving us of PRAISE TO JESUS

You are always and forever calling for the destruction of ALL Russian orcs, and the end of the nation Russia itself.

The moral and ethical problem lies in the fact that somebody else (other than you) is doing all of the bleeding, crying and dying.

Furthermore, neither you nor @Gideon300 has ever once (even so much as once) called for an immediate cessation of hostilities and good-faith peace negotiations. Which would benefit all parties, Ukrainians and Russians alike.

How do you reconcile your failure in this regard? Do you desire escalation and more death and destruction?

 

[Fundaamental]

So you are saying 350K Ukrainians get slaughtered/sacrificed in a pre-planned scam going waaay back to the fall of the Soviet Union, the country is wrecked in the process, then the NATO vultures swoop in to divvy up the carcass?

Geopolitically this theory sound par for the course, with a ton of historical precident.

The indispensable act of sacrificing life to maintain life.

There can be no victory without sacrifice,

A view held by both sides in this war.

It still boils Down to The leaders of this world selling there souls to Satan to gain wealth on earth.

You become rich by rejecting the first offer of peace.

Because the second offer will be richer.

But more than likely we go to the tenths of untill enough blood been shed.

Then we get told no one died in vain.

It's generally how each war is won.

I look at it, if Germany was truly defeated in battle, why is Germany still Germany

 

[BearerOfTheMorningStar]

You are always and forever calling for the destruction of ALL Russian orcs, and the end of the nation Russia itself.

The moral and ethical problem lies in the fact that somebody else (other than you) is doing all of the bleeding, crying and dying.

Furthermore, neither you nor @Gideon300 has ever once (even so much as once) called for an immediate cessation of hostilities and good-faith peace negotiations. Which would benefit all parties, Ukrainians and Russians alike.

How do you reconcile your failure in this regard? Do you desire escalation and more death and destruction?

There will be peace when Unholy Russia whom started the war withdraws totally from Ukraine whom they invaded for the sake of lies that they themselves created and adhered to. There will be peace indeed when Wicked Putin is sent to hell and Unholy Russia is destroyed in totality by God divine, PRAISE JESUS!

 

[cv5]

The indispensable act of sacrificing life to maintain life.

Sacrificing the lives of others so a (very wicked) few can get filthy rich....IMO.
Using the standard geopolitical playbook and sycophantic fawning crisis actors aka politicians.

Do these actors, player and combatants know that the lake of fire awaits? Evidently not, because if they did, they would earnestly repent and become preachers of the Gospel of Salvation by the Blood of the Last Adam.

 

[cv5]

Yup. Totally agree. Kicked to the curb by the Euro political elites aka his bosses. Maybe this will spur Z to the negotiating table?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1679141299453145088

So true.....

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1679021458545078274

 

[Fundaamental]

Sacrificing the lives of others so a (very wicked) few can get filthy rich....IMO.
Using the standard geopolitical playbook and sycophantic fawning crisis actors aka politicians.

Do these actors, player and combatants know that the lake of fire awaits? Evidently not, because if they did, they would earnestly repent and become preachers of the Gospel of Salvation by the Blood of the Last Adam.

It's possible the 50 members of the counsels of nicea have never truly died.

The word filthy rich