Ukraine the bad guy?

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Fundaamental

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Your trying to rationalize out Soviet politics from a democratic western point of view. For instance if in the end there is an NEW Soviet Union there is no guarantee IT'S NEW LEADER will even be Russian(from Russia). It could be Putin but it could also be Prigozhin,Lukashenko or even if Ukraine is brought back into the S.U. Zelenskyy or an whole other host of possible leaders be the one chosen as it's leader. Anyway it doesn't seem important that Russia is not blaming NATO for the last three days to people in the west but in the East the question is how to re-form the USSR and be it's leader at the same time. Putin is walking a tight rope because he needs to make Prigozhin look like a back stabbing traitor while in reality the people were taking selfies with him when he was heading to Moscow because they see him as their hero and not Putin.
I was also basing this on a latest crash of the ruble
Losing ground on there stock market today in russia. As a direct result of the latest affairs,

And oil prices starting to rise again, and no change in inflation rates for the last couple of months with yet another interest rate increase here in the uk.

There is also a huge gap between pay and inflation for most common working folk .

by all accounts is not going to balance anytime soon for the whole world.

Which to me suggests a one world order
 
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Your trying to rationalize out Soviet politics from a democratic western point of view. For instance if in the end there is an NEW Soviet Union there is no guarantee IT'S NEW LEADER will even be Russian(from Russia). It could be Putin but it could also be Prigozhin,Lukashenko or even if Ukraine is brought back into the S.U. Zelenskyy or an whole other host of possible leaders be the one chosen as it's leader. Anyway it doesn't seem important that Russia is not blaming NATO for the last three days to people in the west but in the East the question is how to re-form the USSR and be it's leader at the same time. Putin is walking a tight rope because he needs to make Prigozhin look like a back stabbing traitor while in reality the people were taking selfies with him when he was heading to Moscow because they see him as their hero and not Putin.
This is an amazing post, indeed, this is the error in most Western thinking both the establishment elites and the scrappy public. Yet even as good as it is, it is still wrong, because the Unholy Russian spiritual principality starts with the Soviet Union when they killed Tsar Nicholas II the bearer of Holy Russia's divine right put to death by the godless satanic darwinist followers of communism. Soviet Union as a political entity fell, but its spiritual principality derived not from God's divine right, but from Satan's force of the lies like the USSR still lives in Putin, he has tried to eat at two tables and succeed both Holy Russia and Unholy Russia, but corruptly to his own glory he vaunted himself even against God. In the idols of Putin's foolish heart years ago he said he was parallel of Peter the Great of the Unholy Novo Rossiya Empire that he imagines he will found and that will exist for hundreds of years. He is wrong though, Putin is the Unholy parallel of Tsar Nicholas II and Unholy Russia will be destroyed when he himself lastly after all of his peasant, servants, soldiers, and boyars are thrown into hell by the Sword of Jesus. It will not be that Russia is broken in pieces though like the Western corrupt elites think when they ought fear what God does to Russia lest he turn upon them suddenly and break forth. Nor will it be that Russia is occupied by a foreign army and subjugated as more flavorful conspiracy theories from Eastern thinkers might ingeniusly think. Russia will be re-sanctified in the sight of all people with fire and blood Holy Revolution even God himself and the holy angels fight against Wicked Russia that spiritual principality of darkness founded indeed in the USSR originally that still spiritually exists and must be finished off in totality, and it will be by God so he gets glory, amen. PRAISE JESUS!

 

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I was also basing this on a latest crash of the ruble
Losing ground on there stock market today in russia. As a direct result of the latest affairs,

And oil prices starting to rise again, and no change in inflation rates for the last couple of months with yet another interest rate increase here in the uk.

There is also a huge gap between pay and inflation for most common working folk .

by all accounts is not going to balance anytime soon for the whole world.

Which to me suggests a one world order

Old style USSR politics can be confusing,,, For instance Zelenskyy could actually loose this war,,,Ukraine be brought back into the union and afterwards end up the new leader of it...
 

Fundaamental

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Old style USSR politics can be confusing,,, For instance Zelenskyy could actually loose this war,,,Ukraine be brought back into the union and afterwards end up the new leader of it...
it may be confusing for the everyday Joe.

But for a one world order economical instability makes perfect sense.

I saw a report that Russia are now tapping in to save haven assets, so it's not looking good.

Thats probably allready happening with NATO too.

But again it could be another false economy being waged.
 
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What is Wicked Russia as a spiritual principality and where does it begin truly? Is Putin the founder of an empire that doesn't even exist except in his own lies named Novo Rossiya claiming succession to the Tsars, or is he just the last Red Tsar dictator of a failed Satanic state of a godless religion of disastrous and wicked fools.

A classic of conspiracy theory and history and religious studies lore now in full and on youtube for free, PRAISE JESUS!
 

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There is also a huge gap between pay and inflation for most common working folk .
Inflation is a thing. Upper management is not going to keep pace with inflation ever until years after the fact and then only at a percentage. The only way to keep pace somewhat is to get a new job that pays more and is comparable to what you do now.

Otherwise a well paying career pays nothing more than entry level kids out of primary.
 

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Inflation is a thing. Upper management is not going to keep pace with inflation ever until years after the fact and then only at a percentage. The only way to keep pace somewhat is to get a new job that pays more and is comparable to what you do now.

Otherwise a well paying career pays nothing more than entry level kids out of primary.
you mean become a bigger payer into a system don't you 🤔

Maybe 1 in ,1000 have this option
 

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Jesus will defeat Wicked Russia, one for the Gipper, PRAISE JESUS!

No "Empire" is all good or all evil all the time. It's always a constantly moving sliding scale. Same thing with government corruption. It's never as Polar as a switch being on or off.

There is a place for Russia on the world stage as a nation....just not a Russia that idolizes theft and bullying when they want something.

There are good people in Russia...I've known several personally. Same with other Baltic states.

The problem with an all Democratic nation is that people vote for what they want to hear or against what they fear instead of what they need to hear or what they want. And a perceived enemy at the gates causes fear...Russia is not that scary.

With vice comes weakness and a ring in your nose that others can pull you around by. All sin is vice. There are much better ways to control things than with brute force or weaponizing trade.

Unfortunately we have elected officials that don't have much in the way of brilliance in either of the two party system of government we have.
 
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No "Empire" is all good or all evil all the time. It's always a constantly moving sliding scale. Same thing with government corruption. It's never as Polar as a switch being on or off.

There is a place for Russia on the world stage as a nation....just not a Russia that idolizes theft and bullying when they want something.

There are good people in Russia...I've known several personally. Same with other Baltic states.

The problem with an all Democratic nation is that people vote for what they want to hear or against what they fear instead of what they need to hear or what they want. And a perceived enemy at the gates causes fear...Russia is not that scary.

With vice comes weakness and a ring in your nose that others can pull you around by. All sin is vice. There are much better ways to control things than with brute force or weaponizing trade.

Unfortunately we have elected officials that don't have much in the way of brilliance in either of the two party system of government we have.
Then therefore am I more convinced and guilty of believing what is written in the Holy Bible stating that the True God's Kingdom will destroy the wicked nations and God will overthrow the wicked in tumult and God's Kingdom will destroy and supplant all of the Earth, PRAISE JESUS!
 

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Wouldn't a better world order be equal pay for all ?

Would inflation rise as much as then
 

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you mean become a bigger payer into a system don't you 🤔

Maybe 1 in ,1000 have this option
No....not 1:1,000

With today's remote workforce and high skill blue collar jobs with low labor pools to draw from....you are the only one putting up with wages not keeping pace with inflation. It is literally your fault for selling a diamond ring for a dime.

You might have to change cities or states...but that's not the end of the world either. You have the ability and opportunity.

However, if you have an inflated opinion of yourself and your skills...you are correct...you are stuck. Because you have been a leech on the company you work for.
 

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Then therefore am I more convinced and guilty of believing what is written in the Holy Bible stating that the True God's Kingdom will destroy the wicked nations and God will overthrow the wicked in tumult and God's Kingdom will destroy and supplant all of the Earth, PRAISE JESUS!
Well yes,
But it doesn't mean that it needs to be today.
I'm always seeking times of peace and for men to get along working towards the goals of a strong, united community. Together, we can create a better place with opportunities and relationships. Or we can use our concerted actions to bring death and destruction.

Destruction is easy and requires no skills....construction is exponentially more difficult and requires more cooperation. I'm always for construction.
 

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Wouldn't a better world order be equal pay for all ?

Would inflation rise as much as then
Inflation is a result of the fiat monetary system becoming less valued based upon several economic fundamentals. (Supply/demand, GDP, and other things)
Being paid the same thing as the lowest skilled employee removes all incentive to try harder. Why become a rocket scientist when I can get the same pay as a floor sweeper?
 
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Well yes,
But it doesn't mean that it needs to be today.
I'm always seeking times of peace and for men to get along working towards the goals of a strong, united community. Together, we can create a better place with opportunities and relationships. Or we can use our concerted actions to bring death and destruction.

Destruction is easy and requires no skills....construction is exponentially more difficult and requires more cooperation. I'm always for construction.
Oh the bar is even more highly set. To prove that he is God and he alone and that he is the Almighty and Powerful Jesus has to not only create and also destroy in one day and in one way, but I tell you he has to tear them to pieces every single day and in every single way, and then they will know that he is God and that all the crowns are belong to him, PRAISE JESUS!
 

Fundaamental

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No....not 1:1,000

With today's remote workforce and high skill blue collar jobs with low labor pools to draw from....you are the only one putting up with wages not keeping pace with inflation. It is literally your fault for selling a diamond ring for a dime.

You might have to change cities or states...but that's not the end of the world either. You have the ability and opportunity.

However, if you have an inflated opinion of yourself and your skills...you are correct...you are stuck. Because you have been a leech on the company you work for.
I think your way out.

Over 10 percent are on a minimum wage.

Whilst a steady Job considered more than enough to withstand inflation, is no longer a enough to sustain households, and keep up with inflation, which is over half the UK's workforce, base on a population of 70 million people and half that population being in work, with an unemployed rate now over 4% of 33 million people in employment

Over half UK work force are struggling with inflation, maxing out there credit cards every months

3/4 of UK business can't employ or find workers as unemployment rates continue to rise.

And are economy was one of the most stable in the world
 

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I think your way out.

Over 10 percent are on a minimum wage.

Whilst a steady Job considered more than enough to withstand inflation, is no longer a enough to sustain households, and keep up with inflation, which is over half the UK's workforce, base on a population of 70 million people and half that population being in work, with an unemployed rate now over 4% of 33 million people in employment

Over half UK work force are struggling with inflation, maxing out there credit cards every months

3/4 of UK business can't employ or find workers as unemployment rates continue to rise.

And are economy was one of the most stable in the world
Your statement is incongruent.

I have no clue what you are saying.
 

Fundaamental

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Your statement is incongruent.

I have no clue what you are saying.
is it ?

UK statistics

33 million people in work

Over half of that work forces pay is not enough money to keep up with inflation. That's 17 million

The other half consists of high percentage of people in work only just about managing to keep up with inflation.

Theres only a small percentage of people who are enjoying inflation not being an issue and there pay being more than enough to handle inflation.

Only a few years ago we had every person in work having pay that kept up with inflation.

Your replies suggests its no big deal.
 

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It's Got so bad the government has now forced all banks into letting there customers switch to an interest mortgage repayment with no questions asked.

Letting people change there mortgage repayment terms form a repayment to an interest only repayment, which over 5 million people couldn't do last week.


Not forgetting they've forced banks into not being allowed to evict people for 12 months who can't pay

Basically the government are saying where going to take your houses of you, but hey don't worry you can sweat for 12 months.
 

Fundaamental

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It's Got so bad the government has now forced all banks into letting there customers switch to an interest mortgage repayment with no questions asked.

Letting people change there mortgage repayment terms form a repayment to an interest only repayment, which over 5 million people couldn't do last week.


Not forgetting they've forced banks into not being allowed to evict people for 12 months who can't pay

Basically the government are saying where going to take your houses of you, but hey don't worry you can sweat for 12 months.
Yup everything is cosy