Did Christ Shed His Blood for All Sinners?

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Did Christ shed his blood for all sinners?

  • Christ shed His blood for all sinners.

    Votes: 8 80.0%

  • Christ only shed His blood for repentant sinners.

    Votes: 2 20.0%

  • Christ only shed His blood for unrepentant sinners.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    10
Roughsoul1991

Roughsoul1991

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RaceRunner said:
If what you claim was true, the Devil would be in heaven. :eek:
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This would be a false premise and categorical error as in the actions and responsibilities of Satan we're and are not the same as mankind.

Both angel and man indeed have the free will to obey or rebel but for the angel already in God's presence, there was no grace due to the status and nature of an angel. They immediately we're either imprisoned in hell or cast to the Earth.

Angel and man are not in the same category.

Regardless, grace comes after the choice to surrender out of faith. So not all will be saved because they do not have faith and therefore curse and hate God by their rebellion.

In my opinion, the fallen angels are demonic and corrupted beyond saving even if God chose to extend grace.
 
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RaceRunner

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Roughsoul1991 said:
This would be a false premise and categorical error as in the actions and responsibilities of Satan we're and are not the same as mankind.

Both angel and man indeed have the free will to obey or rebel but for the angel already in God's presence, there was no grace due to the status and nature of an angel. They immediately we're either imprisoned in hell or cast to the Earth.

Angel and man are not in the same category.

Regardless, grace comes after the choice to surrender out of faith. So not all will be saved because they do not have faith and therefore curse and hate God by their rebellion.

In my opinion, the fallen angels are demonic and corrupted beyond saving even if God chose to extend grace.
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There is no hope for someone who dies an unrepentant sinner; Hell doesn't count as hope unless these people hope to go there.
 
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RaceRunner

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Komentaja said:
Not at all, Christ did not die for angels and devils but humans
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Christ did not die for unrepentant sinners. The angels and devils had a choice, and so do all humans, including souls now in hell.
 
LightOfMyLife

LightOfMyLife

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Jesus shed his blood for all sinners, but they choose to accept or reject his gift of salvation. Their acceptance will give them a home in heaven, and if they reject his grace and mercy that he paid for their sins they chose hell. We have a free will to choose. God didn't make us robots.
 
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RaceRunner

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Roughsoul1991 said:
This would be a false premise and categorical error as in the actions and responsibilities of Satan we're and are not the same as mankind.

Both angel and man indeed have the free will to obey or rebel but for the angel already in God's presence, there was no grace due to the status and nature of an angel. They immediately we're either imprisoned in hell or cast to the Earth.

Angel and man are not in the same category.

Regardless, grace comes after the choice to surrender out of faith. So not all will be saved because they do not have faith and therefore curse and hate God by their rebellion.

In my opinion, the fallen angels are demonic and corrupted beyond saving even if God chose to extend grace.
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You will find out what happens if you choose to die an unrepentant sinner, no amount of ministry will save you if you choose to die in that dreadful condition. :(
 
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RaceRunner

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LightOfMyLife said:
Jesus shed his blood for all sinners, but they choose to accept or reject his gift of salvation. Their acceptance will give them a home in heaven, and if they reject his grace and mercy that he paid for their sins they chose hell. We have a free will to choose. God didn't make us robots.
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Christ did not die for unrepentant sinners.
 
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RaceRunner

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LightOfMyLife said:
He died for all people, but if they don't choose salvation they don't go to heaven. He died for the sins of the world that includes all people, but they choose forgiveness or they don't.
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Being an unrepentant sinner is a rejection of Jesus Christ.
 
Grace911

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There is a lot of emphasis on Christ's death, but it is His resurrection from death that holds the key to understanding why He died in the first place. There is an old youtube video called "Identity Crisis" by Passion for Truth Ministries taught by Jim Staley. Whatever your prejudices are, like dispensationism, or Old is obsolete, set them aside and hear, listen, and understand what is being taught.
 
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Ted01

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HeIsHere said:
Could be him, but Runningman did not believe in hell, he was an annihilationist.
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Was? I can't remember... either way, he was always contradicting himself.
I believe it's him... too many similarities, like the polling peeps with ridiculous questions.
 
ResidentAlien

ResidentAlien

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Runningman didn't have the obsession with polls from what I remember.
 
HeIsHere

HeIsHere

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Ted01 said:
Was? I can't remember... either way, he was always contradicting himself.
I believe it's him... too many similarities, like the polling peeps with ridiculous questions.
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That is true, similar name and his threads seem to want to be provocative rather than wanting to foster discussion.

Very insightful of you, I may pay closer attention to this fellow if only for that reason.
 
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RaceRunner

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LightOfMyLife said:
It is a rejection of salvation that is why they will not go to heaven. Jesus is the only way, truth, and the life to enter heaven.
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Being an unrepentant sinner is a rejection of salvation through Jesus Christ.
 
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