Is personal prophecy scriptural?

[Nehemiah6]

The New Testament letter's were not recognized as canon, until way after 65 AD.

That's what the Catholic church would have you believe. But they did not have to be recognized as "canon" since the churches at that time recognized them as Scripture! Peter was familiar with ALL of Paul's epistles and regarded them as Scripture. Which means that other Christians and churches were also familiar with them. So it follows that the New Testament was in existence for all practical purposes (though not totally complete). Paul even spoke of this when he asked Timothy to bring the books (scrolls) and the parchments (manuscripts) with him (2 Tim 4:13).

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Well said,. The gift of prophecy finished with the death of the apostles. Any prophecy after that would be an addition to Scripture which Revelation warns against. False prophets are of Satan.

a yeah false prophecy and false teaching of any kind when one claims to be a teacher or prophet is definately the source of all the confusion on earth and isn’t of God

but the gift of prophecy didn’t end with the apostles it’s the function of prophecy that changes from new to Old Testament

In the ot there was a system of God choosing prophets and then that chosen prophet would hear God and tell everyone what he said like a mediator

In the New Testament the spirit is given to every believer and it brings different gifts see prophecy hasn’t ended with the apostles it’s part of the function ofnthe church but the role of prophets changed now because Jesus replaced the one prophet system and gave his spirit to all

“How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying. Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge. If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace. For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted. And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭14:26, 29-33‬ ‭

A prophet in tbe nt isn’t creating new scripture they are receiving knowledge from the scripture already there like Paul or Peter how they constantly wuote ot scripture and then explain what it means and how it applies to the chirch

at he one prophet system is gone now Jesus is the one forever but he has many disciples with the gift of prophecy , others have teaching others have ministerial gifts or service others have great ministry means others have the gift of healing ect

the israel forts aren’t used nor do they finction the same as the ot but it hasnt ended . the old way of chosen prophets officially speaking for God has ended and so o agree no more scripture should be written and “ prophets “ should learn what the gift of prophecy is in the nt and th at it’s not the same function as the ot I think people today want power over others so the claim to be like an ot prophet appeals to them like for instance Joseph smith claimed to be the one chosen prophet of God …..that’s not so


“And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

prophet in the New Testament is someone who can understand the mysteries of the scripture that’s already there written Paul was a prophet but look where his dowctine came from what was already written down but now he understood how it applies

“Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come: that Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭26:22-23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Ot prophecy is all about Jesus and the gospel they were foretelling the future of Gods plan nt prophecy is about convincing people that wha is there is true and understanding what it means

 

[selahsays]

Good post.

There would be no issue if the scriptures declared: "No more prophesies after John dies. Ever." But it doesn't. And believers would not have to be wary of "false prophets" if there were no "true prophets". The instruction would simply be "Don't accept any prophesies". Couple those things with examples of personal prophesies recorded in the New Testament both before and after Jesus' death, the only conclusion for the question "Is personal prophesy scriptural?" is "Yes". But we must also conclude that there are those who say they speak for God but, in truth, do not. They are the "false prophets" we are warned about.

One glaring omission from the church, today, is proper administration and leadership who will address sin in the church, including when someone falsely claims to speak for God. But that's another topic.

Yes, and we know that the biggest False Prophet will show up during the great tribulation.

 

[Dino246]

Well said,. The gift of prophecy finished with the death of the apostles. Any prophecy after that would be an addition to Scripture which Revelation warns against. False prophets are of Satan.

Hello and welcome to CC.

There are scriptural references to prophecies that were not recorded in Scripture. Therefore, God clearly does not intend every prophecy ever spoken to be considered "Scripture".

Agabus was known to be a prophet before he prophesied of the coming famine in Judea in Acts 11:28, and Philip's daughters were known to be prophets (though their prophecies aren't recorded) in Acts 21:9.

Given this, it is unreasonable to conclude that every other prophecy (outside of Scripture) would be a violation of Revelation 22:18. Where someone claims that the prophetic word is an addition to Scripture, they are clearly wrong... but I have never heard such a claim; only the counterclaim which I refuted above.

 

[Lamar]

Hello and welcome to CC.

There are scriptural references to prophecies that were not recorded in Scripture. Therefore, God clearly does not intend every prophecy ever spoken to be considered "Scripture".

Agabus was known to be a prophet before he prophesied of the coming famine in Judea in Acts 11:28, and Philip's daughters were known to be prophets (though their prophecies aren't recorded) in Acts 21:9.

Given this, it is unreasonable to conclude that every other prophecy (outside of Scripture) would be a violation of Revelation 22:18. Where someone claims that the prophetic word is an addition to Scripture, they are clearly wrong... but I have never heard such a claim; only the counterclaim which I refuted above.

"There are scriptural references to prophecies that were not recorded in Scripture." Agreed.

Therefore, God clearly does not intend every prophecy ever spoken to be considered "Scripture". Maybe, but the issue is how do we as Christians react to such claims of prophecies.
Are we to be awe struck knowing that this person speaks in the name of the Lord?
Are we to be indifferent to the "prophets" words until there is a reason to believe them?
What are we to do when the "prophecies" are false?

 

[selahsays]

"There are scriptural references to prophecies that were not recorded in Scripture." Agreed.

Therefore, God clearly does not intend every prophecy ever spoken to be considered "Scripture". Maybe, but the issue is how do we as Christians react to such claims of prophecies.
Are we to be awe struck knowing that this person speaks in the name of the Lord?
Are we to be indifferent to the "prophets" words until there is a reason to believe them?
What are we to do when the "prophecies" are false?

Well, if we haven’t studied the Word of God, more than likely we’ll be deceived because we haven’t prepared. In 2 Timothy 2:15, it is written to “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.“

 

[Lamar]

Well, if we haven’t studied the Word of God, more than likely we’ll be deceived because we haven’t prepared. In 2 Timothy 2:15, it is written to “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.“

Okay....but what about the question?

How are we to react concerning these claims of God given messages?

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

"There are scriptural references to prophecies that were not recorded in Scripture." Agreed.

Therefore, God clearly does not intend every prophecy ever spoken to be considered "Scripture". Maybe, but the issue is how do we as Christians react to such claims of prophecies.
Are we to be awe struck knowing that this person speaks in the name of the Lord?
Are we to be indifferent to the "prophets" words until there is a reason to believe them?
What are we to do when the "prophecies" are false?

You know how you are in Church, and everyone knows the Holy Spirit is moving, working on people to Repent, come to God, etc?
You just feel the Reverence of the Presence of God?
It is a Good Confirmation within your Soul?

If the Prophecy is Legit, and from God, You, will feel it deep within your Soul.

 

[Dino246]

Okay....but what about the question?

How are we to react concerning these claims of God given messages?

That depends on the nature of the message. If it is personal or for a small group, set it aside and let the Lord confirm… or not. If the person claims it is ‘for everyone’ or ‘all believers’ then you can probably ignore it as it is effectively a claim to being additional scripture.

 

[Dino246]

You know how you are in Church, and everyone knows the Holy Spirit is moving, working on people to Repent, come to God, etc?
You just feel the Reverence of the Presence of God?
It is a Good Confirmation within your Soul?

If the Prophecy is Legit, and from God, You, will feel it deep within your Soul.

Yes, however, this is ultimately subjective. The Mormons use this ‘burning in the bosom’ to confirm what cannot be from God.

 

[selahsays]

Paul tells us to put on the whole armor of God.

Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints; And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel, For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.

- Ephesians 6:10-20 (KJV)

 

[selahsays]

Okay....but what about the question?

How are we to react concerning these claims of God given messages?

If these God-given messages don’t align with what God has given us in the Bible, just tell them you don’t believe it and tell them why. That’s what I’d do.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Yes, however, this is ultimately subjective. The Mormons use this ‘burning in the bosom’ to confirm what cannot be from God.

I actually had to Google that.

First of all, Mormons don't even follow the Same God, so, it's impossible the spirit inside They feel is The Holy Spirit. The fact it's a Burning Sensation probably says it all.

I am talking more like Discernment. That doesn't result in Burning Sensation, but rather a Check, like you know when someone is lying to you. You just know it. But it doesn't feel like it is Burning, it feels like your heart fell through you as the Liar keeps on lying.

 

[Bob-Carabbio]

Have you ever been given a personal prophecy?

SInce I've been around "Full Gospel" folks for over 50 years, I've received several.

What happened as a result?

Nothing. They were generally in the nature of confirmation. "Prophesy" doesn't necessarily have anything to do with "Foretelling", most of it is "FORTH-TELLING".

Paul cautions that ANY PROPHESY shouldn't be eaten whole, until there's confirmation. Anybody who expends resourses based on an unconfirmed "Prophetic Word" is a FOOL (some folks learned that the hard way after "88 reasons the rapture will be in 1988" came out).

In one case my wife got a prophetic word for a man not known by us, and as usual, we filed it in "PENDING" like we do with any "Word from God".

About a month later another person, unrelated to the first, and not known to either of us gave her the exact same word. THAT'S when you start taking it seriously.

My experience (among Full-Gospel folks) is that MOST "prophetic words" die in "PENDING".

I've also received "Prophetic Words" from other sources - God speaking to me through folks that have NO IDEA that they're speaking God's word. One instance was my Boss years ago who wasn't a Christian. but I was "venting" about an instance that happened at work, and he commented: "You must not be much of a Christian if you can speak like that." That, of course is James 1:26 and the Holy SPirit drove it in all the way to my toenails.

Prophetic utterance can come from all sorts of different places -

 

[CS1]

Personal prophecy is big these days. A so-called prophet gives you a prophecy that he or she claims is directly from the Lord and meant specifically for you. Does this have any authority in scripture, or are these "prophets" little more than psychic advisers? Have you ever been given a personal prophecy? What happened as a result? If not, how would you feel or react if someone tried to give you a personal prophecy?

There is no personal Prophecy, but there is personal edification, exhortation, and Prophesying for individuals or a group. It is more confirmation than it is out of the blue. No one gets a word from the Lord that they were not prompted to receive.

 

[Bruce_Leiter]

Personal prophecy is big these days. A so-called prophet gives you a prophecy that he or she claims is directly from the Lord and meant specifically for you. Does this have any authority in scripture or are these "prophets" little more than psychic advisers? Have you ever been given a personal prophecy? What happened as a result? If not, how would you feel or react is someone tried to give you a personal prophecy?

I would always test a "personal prophecy" by the teachings of the Bible; that was Moses' test that he gave us from God in addition to whether it comes true. Even then, Satan loves to give us counterfeit signs. Staying with the Scriptures is the safest way and be skeptical of "personal prophecies."

 

[Inquisitor]

"There are scriptural references to prophecies that were not recorded in Scripture." Agreed.

Therefore, God clearly does not intend every prophecy ever spoken to be considered "Scripture". Maybe, but the issue is how do we as Christians react to such claims of prophecies.
Are we to be awe struck knowing that this person speaks in the name of the Lord?
Are we to be indifferent to the "prophets" words until there is a reason to believe them?
What are we to do when the "prophecies" are false?

The problem reduces to a simple narration.

No one knows absolutely, whether a prophecy is valid or invalid, until the prophecy is realized.

None of us without any doubt whatsoever, can say which end time interpretation is correct. Until the end time events take place.
We have ten or more to choose from and it is impossible to know which one is correct. Or if they are all wrong.

None of us knows for certain, if even the way we read and understand the scripture is correct.

I do know that many interpretations are incorrect, that is a given. This is hard to understand because the New Testament is not a multivolume text. The New Testament is a collection of simple letters after all. So what is the reason for an array of interpretations from such a small set of letters?

The multitude of denominations in the Christian world is ample evidence. That we are not reading the revelation of Jesus in the New Testament, the same way. The infighting in Christian forums is demonstrating that profound disunity within Christianity.

Almost every single subject raised on CF has competing sides at war with one another.

Perhaps Artificial Intelligence can solve the problem!

 

[Inquisitor]

I would always test a "personal prophecy" by the teachings of the Bible; that was Moses' test that he gave us from God in addition to whether it comes true. Even then, Satan loves to give us counterfeit signs. Staying with the Scriptures is the safest way and be skeptical of "personal prophecies."

I am skeptical of your interpretation.

Mwhaaaaaaaaa.

 

[Inquisitor]

SInce I've been around "Full Gospel" folks for over 50 years, I've received several.



Nothing. They were generally in the nature of confirmation. "Prophesy" doesn't necessarily have anything to do with "Foretelling", most of it is "FORTH-TELLING".

Paul cautions that ANY PROPHESY shouldn't be eaten whole, until there's confirmation. Anybody who expends resourses based on an unconfirmed "Prophetic Word" is a FOOL (some folks learned that the hard way after "88 reasons the rapture will be in 1988" came out).

In one case my wife got a prophetic word for a man not known by us, and as usual, we filed it in "PENDING" like we do with any "Word from God".

About a month later another person, unrelated to the first, and not known to either of us gave her the exact same word. THAT'S when you start taking it seriously.

My experience (among Full-Gospel folks) is that MOST "prophetic words" die in "PENDING".

I've also received "Prophetic Words" from other sources - God speaking to me through folks that have NO IDEA that they're speaking God's word. One instance was my Boss years ago who wasn't a Christian. but I was "venting" about an instance that happened at work, and he commented: "You must not be much of a Christian if you can speak like that." That, of course is James 1:26 and the Holy SPirit drove it in all the way to my toenails.

Prophetic utterance can come from all sorts of different places -

Perhaps the Lord can speak through a donkey.

 

[ResidentAlien]

"There are scriptural references to prophecies that were not recorded in Scripture." Agreed.

Therefore, God clearly does not intend every prophecy ever spoken to be considered "Scripture". Maybe, but the issue is how do we as Christians react to such claims of prophecies.
Are we to be awe struck knowing that this person speaks in the name of the Lord?
Are we to be indifferent to the "prophets" words until there is a reason to believe them?
What are we to do when the "prophecies" are false?

I'd be indifferent until I had a good reason not to be. I'd also talk to the person and try to understand what they believe about personal prophecy. Most of what passes for prophecy and words of knowledge is really nothing but things people have cooked up in their own minds.