Luke 12:47 does this mean we'll be beaten in heaven?

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JohnB

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The other day you were asked what you have to offer a potential spouse:



https://christianchat.com/threads/m...er-even-for-bad-marriages.211117/post-5084232

Your reply:



https://christianchat.com/threads/m...er-even-for-bad-marriages.211117/post-5084272

I was homeless for 3 and 1/2 years and I saw on a regular basis predators looking to take advantage of homeless women and girls. They offered them drugs or a roof over their head in exchange for sexual favors. I find it quite interesting that your response to the question of what you have to offer a woman is a roof over her head. Do you really think you're fooling anyone?
I'll be offering a good life in a nice home.
 

Magenta

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Have you been to heaven? How do you know? They did in Genesis 6.
They did not. You are giving as an example what the REBELLIOUS damned angels were doing.

You have gone around and around with this multiple times with many members.

According to what is explicitly written in the Word of God, sex is to be between married couples
only, and there will be no marriage in heaven. It seems you have an extremely difficult time wrapping
your head around that concept, even though it has been pointed out to you umpteen times.
You have also not responded to some of the problems sex causes outside of marriage.


Here is a list again:

Adultery
Fornication
Homosexuality
Human sex trafficking
Incest
Paedophilia
Polygamy
Pornography
Prostitution
Rape
Transsexualism
 

Magenta

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You are giving as an example what the REBELLIOUS damned angels were doing.
I should have said, what some believe the rebellious damned angels were doing. @JohnB

There is zero evidence that angels in heaven were, or are at any time are, having sex.

Quite the contrary, and to your chagrin.
 

hornetguy

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By the way, while we're on the subject, why are Christians against sex in heaven? We'll have bodies, we'll be eating and drinking, so why not sex?
I imagine it's because most people... most believers, know that heaven will be such an unbelievably wonderful place to be.... in the presence of the Great I Am... our God and Savior..... that nobody will have any desire to have sex... which is purely an earthly, human desire and need.
And while sex is a wonderful, beautiful, great experience, it is not even a blip on the radar screen of what the glories of heaven will bring to us.
It's not that they are against it.... it's just inconceivable that anyone would even want to....
 

JohnB

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I imagine it's because most people... most believers, know that heaven will be such an unbelievably wonderful place to be.... in the presence of the Great I Am... our God and Savior..... that nobody will have any desire to have sex... which is purely an earthly, human desire and need.
And while sex is a wonderful, beautiful, great experience, it is not even a blip on the radar screen of what the glories of heaven will bring to us.
It's not that they are against it.... it's just inconceivable that anyone would even want to....
How do you know if you have never been to heaven and you have no idea what our new bodies will be able to do and feel. Why are Christians so negative on sex? Why did GOD put the Song of Solomon in the bible?
 

JohnB

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They did not. You are giving as an example what the REBELLIOUS damned angels were doing.

You have gone around and around with this multiple times with many members.

According to what is explicitly written in the Word of God, sex is to be between married couples
only, and there will be no marriage in heaven. It seems you have an extremely difficult time wrapping
your head around that concept, even though it has been pointed out to you umpteen times.
You have also not responded to some of the problems sex causes outside of marriage.


Here is a list again:

Adultery
Fornication
Homosexuality
Human sex trafficking
Incest
Paedophilia
Polygamy
Pornography
Prostitution
Rape
Transsexualism
Once again, there is no marriage in heaven. Jesus did not say there is no sex in heaven.
 

JohnB

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I imagine it's because most people... most believers, know that heaven will be such an unbelievably wonderful place to be.... in the presence of the Great I Am... our God and Savior..... that nobody will have any desire to have sex... which is purely an earthly, human desire and need.
And while sex is a wonderful, beautiful, great experience, it is not even a blip on the radar screen of what the glories of heaven will bring to us.
It's not that they are against it.... it's just inconceivable that anyone would even want to....
This is your opinion, since you've never been there. No verses to back up what you said. The angels in Genesis 6 took for themselves wives. So angels taking human form were not in sin when they took wives and had sex. It does prove they have sexual desires.
 
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What got them in trouble was WHO they had sex with. GOD wasn't against them having sex. Some Christians seem to think the ONLY reason for sex is to procreate. That is not true. Read the Song of Solomon.
Yes that is correct. Yet even beyond the clean use of sex; there is a better way in the Lord Jesus Christ to accrue the more powerful spiritual implements and treasures, praise God.
 

Magenta

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Once again, there is no marriage in heaven. Jesus did not say there is no sex in heaven.
No sex outside of marriage should be a major clue to you, but you prefer to overlook that.
 
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In the Bible sex and marriage are the same thing, when they have sex the male and female become one, and that man owns that woman, she is his. The illicit use of sex means that they are polluted, thus those that go outside their original and true spouse are POLLUTERS, the meaning of adultery. Cursed be they until and unless they repent from adultery that they are excommunicated from the body of Christ, and furthermore any who in even helping Jezebel to so much as breathe out to teach this thing in committing adulteries are both excommunicated and cursed clearly by Jesus directly in the Bible. Those that do not do and teach not to do such an abominable sin are handsomely rewarded by my Lord Jesus Christ to bear the Rod Which Breaks Nations and the Morning Star, in the name of Jesus, amen!
 

ResidentAlien

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How do you know if you have never been to heaven and you have no idea what our new bodies will be able to do and feel. Why are Christians so negative on sex? Why did GOD put the Song of Solomon in the bible?
John, you're not a Bible scholar, nor are you an expert on what Christians think about sex. The things you preach aren't even worth the time of day discussing. One thing is obvious though: you're desperately in need of attention and recognition.
 

Magenta

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So angels taking human form were not in sin when they took wives and had sex.
Wow. Most who hold to the "angels had sex with women" beliefs also believe those angels were punished and are in
chains in some dark pit awaiting the end of this age and the final judgment of all. Where did you go off that rail?


And most who hold to the "angels had sex with women" also believe that God flooded the whole world because of that.

But you say God was okay with it, it was not sin, and you want to emulate them? .:unsure::oops::censored::oops::geek:
 
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In the Bible sex and marriage are the same thing, when they have sex the male and female become one, and that man owns that woman, she is his. The illicit use of sex means that they are polluted, thus those that go outside their original and true spouse are POLLUTERS, the meaning of adultery. Cursed be they until and unless they repent from adultery that they are excommunicated from the body of Christ, and furthermore any who in even helping Jezebel to so much as breathe out to teach this thing in committing adulteries are both excommunicated and cursed clearly by Jesus directly in the Bible. Those that do not do and teach not to do such an abominable sin are handsomely rewarded by my Lord Jesus Christ to bear the Rod Which Breaks Nations and the Morning Star, in the name of Jesus, amen!
Take hold of the rod of iron and the blessings of Lord Jesus, keep the faith, and beat the fools of Satan's Kingdom to pieces in the name of the Messiah Lord Jesus, the end comes for all their earth and their spiritual principalities of darkness, and our Lord Jesus will inherit all kingdoms!
 
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They did not. You are giving as an example what the REBELLIOUS damned angels were doing.

You have gone around and around with this multiple times with many members.

According to what is explicitly written in the Word of God, sex is to be between married couples
only, and there will be no marriage in heaven. It seems you have an extremely difficult time wrapping
your head around that concept, even though it has been pointed out to you umpteen times.
You have also not responded to some of the problems sex causes outside of marriage.


Here is a list again:

Adultery
Fornication
Homosexuality
Human sex trafficking
Incest
Paedophilia
Polygamy
Pornography
Prostitution
Rape
Transsexualism
You forgot Two:
Chasing Strange/Different Flesh
Sexual Immorality
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7 In the same way as these angels, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after a different sort of flesh