Is personal prophecy scriptural?

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Lamar

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Not if someone says they're speaking in the name of the Lord but they're really not. No amount of good motives can overcome that.
Agreed.
Proclaiming to speak in the Name of God is a very serious assertion and must never be taken lightly. Yet many today do.
 

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Seventh Day Adventists are sound on a lot of things but unsound enough to stay away from them. They believe they are "remant Christians" whose responsibility it is to steer the rest of Christendom on the right way. They also believe Ellen G. White was their prophet given them by God and this is proof they've been singled out as the remnant. They make a lot of claims about Bible onlyism but this clearly isn't the case; Ellen White's writings are where they get their understanding of Bible doctrine. All of this is business as usual for any cult.
we have differed in some opinions to, but that hasn't stopped me from believing other stuff you have wrote.
 
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FollowingtheWay

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That's fine but I'm not looking for your opinion; I'm looking for sound teaching from the scriptures. If you don't have that then good day.
This is not opinion but biblical concept. And looking at the big picture from creation to current. You will not find a direct word for word teaching from scripture on some things. We can look at the Old Testament and see God always moving towards humans in an effort to see them choose Him but sin was a consistent block . We have a relationship oriented God .What was the Fathers heart toward Adam before the fall? Did God give Adam a step by step procedure for naming the animals? Did God warn Adam that sin was about to enter the world?.Nope. God wants us to walk with Him and choose Him. To love Him and trust Him above everything else. God often invites us On an adventure, provides maps in scripture a compass because God loves adventure and has written it into our hearts as His image bearers, .It’s not always turn by turn direction, Q&A with our God. God wants and desires something more of us. Did God not walk and talk with Adam in the garden? We as redeemed saints can ask God via prayer for wisdom and discernment where scripture isn’t turn by turn. We can walk by faith and not by sight in those matters knowing that- “ I am a saint, walking in the presence of the Son of God. In His strength and His Power. saved by the grace of God. If I stumble , if I faulter or sin He will forgive me and I will keep walking in His presence.” This is the confidence we need and the confidence described in hebrews 10:35.
 
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Agreed.
Proclaiming to speak in the Name of God is a very serious assertion and must never be taken lightly. Yet many today do.
When I Preach and Teach, I like to Study everything, I feel God, is leading, me, to Preach/Teach.
How is that I know what I should I preach/teach?
Isn't this God giving me a Message for those who will HEAR?

Some of us, don't make a bulletin, with the next 2 months worth of messages to be Preached.
Some of us, actually, wait on God, before knowing, what God wants to be preached.
 

Lamar

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It's when we see Jesus, that is the Perfect to Come.

Thank You, for reminding me, of another stupid Reason, for a Dumber Doctrine (y)
If Jesus is the "perfect" Paul would have said so.

What makes you think Jesus is the "perfect", could it be personal prophecy?

The notion that we are living in an age of the miraculous does not even pass the smell test.
 
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If Jesus is the "perfect" Paul would have said so.
Paul DID say it was Jesus!

He said, I see Him DIMLY now but I WILL SEE HIM as HE really IS when it's Face to Face!


12 For now we see in a mirror dimly,
but then face to face.
 
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Here is from Our Oldest Greek New Testament we have in Archive:
12 For now we see by means of a mirror in an enigma, but then face to face:

Since I know you don't have a Clue, here:

It Means: We only are seeing Jesus now as an enigma [NONE of us fully know WHAT God is we've never seen Him in Spirit Form or flesh], but when we see Him FACE to FACE, we will SEE the PERFECTION!
 
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All of your verses ring true but these verses do not convey that supernatural Holy Spirit prophecy has not ceased. Prophecy was never meant to continue forever.

We may not know on what day Paul's prophecy of 1st Cor. 13:8 was fulfilled but fulfilled it has.
You seem to be implying that it has not.

Am I correct?
We are still in the midst of the large story God is telling in the Bible. Speaking in terms of a play- act 1 of the story was creation, act 2 -was the fall of humanity, Act3 - was Jesus death resurrection, assention, If Christs return is in act 4 of the story than we and the early Church are still in act 3. Just because we see the end or renewal written in Rev doesn’t mean we are outside the story of the Bible . The church is still being built up just as it was in The book of Acts and we find ourselves currently living somewhere in that part of the Bible.
 

Magenta

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If Jesus is the "perfect" Paul would have said so.

What makes you think Jesus is the "perfect", could it be personal prophecy?
1 Peter 2:22
He committed no sin, and no deceit was found in His mouth.

1 John 3:5
You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin.

Matthew 5:48
You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
(Jesus is God, and therefore, perfect)

2 Corinthians 5:21
For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

Hebrews 4:15
For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses,
but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin.

1 Peter 1:19
But with the precious blood of Christ, like that of a lamb without blemish or spot.

1 John 1:5 1
This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

Romans 3:23
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

1 Peter 2:21
For to this you have been called, because Christ also suffered for
you, leaving you an example, so that you might follow in his steps.

Hebrews 7:26
For it was indeed fitting that we should have such a high priest, holy, innocent,
unstained, separated from sinners, and exalted above the heavens.

Luke 23:41
And we indeed justly, for we are receiving the due reward of our deeds; but this man has done nothing wrong.
 

Lamar

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When I Preach and Teach, I like to Study everything, I feel God, is leading, me, to Preach/Teach.
How is that I know what I should I preach/teach?
Isn't this God giving me a Message for those who will HEAR?

Some of us, don't make a bulletin, with the next 2 months worth of messages to be Preached.
Some of us, actually, wait on God, before knowing, what God wants to be preached.
"How is that I know what I should I preach/teach?
Isn't this God giving me a Message for those who will HEAR?"

What you are claiming is called esoteric knowledge.
This is why you consider the reasoning of those who disagree with you as "stupid" and "dumb".
After all, did not God Himself give me this message? How can I be wrong if my message is from God?

It is this mentality that has caused much damage to the cause of Christ.

From the Gnostics to Benny Hinn. God has told me therefore you must be wrong.
 
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"How is that I know what I should I preach/teach?
Isn't this God giving me a Message for those who will HEAR?"

What you are claiming is called esoteric knowledge.
This is why you consider the reasoning of those who disagree with you as "stupid" and "dumb".
After all, did not God Himself give me this message? How can I be wrong if my message is from God?

It is this mentality that has caused much damage to the cause of Christ.

From the Gnostics to Benny Hinn. God has told me therefore you must be wrong.
I have NEVER considered anyone as STUPID or DUMB until they have proven it.

I am as guilty of that as TULIP's going around looking at people and labeling if they're Elect or non-Elect.
 
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"How is that I know what I should I preach/teach?
Isn't this God giving me a Message for those who will HEAR?"

What you are claiming is called esoteric knowledge.
WILL YOU SERIOUSLY SET THE GLASS PIPE DOWN?

It's called Discerning of the Holy Spirit. You really are too far gone!
 
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I get alone for hours and days. I have 2 ways of reading the Bible.
While beginning at Genesis 1:1 and going until Revelation, I also will jump around the Prophets and New Testament.
By time I read the Bible through, I might have read the New Testament several times. And many times as I read, God will cause me to reread a few Verses over and I see what I did not before. That becomes my Message.

What kind of stupid just exactly is this idiotic esoteric knowledge?

I only live, by Discerning the Holy Spirit!
 

Lamar

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1 Peter 2:22
He committed no sin, and no deceit was found in His mouth.


1 John 3:5
You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin.


Matthew 5:48
You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
(Jesus is God, and therefore, perfect)

2 Corinthians 5:21
For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.


Hebrews 4:15
For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses,
but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin.


1 Peter 1:19
But with the precious blood of Christ, like that of a lamb without blemish or spot.


1 John 1:5 1
This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.


Romans 3:23
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,


1 Peter 2:21
For to this you have been called, because Christ also suffered for
you, leaving you an example, so that you might follow in his steps.


Hebrews 7:26
For it was indeed fitting that we should have such a high priest, holy, innocent,
unstained, separated from sinners, and exalted above the heavens.


Luke 23:41
And we indeed justly, for we are receiving the due reward of our deeds; but this man has done nothing wrong.
You are side stepping the question. I will ask it again. If Paul meant the return of Jesus Christ as the "perfect" why not just say so?

Jesus will not come, He will return. It is the "perfect" that will come.

Jesus is never named as the "perfect". The Father is described as being perfect but not as the "perfect".

The word "perfect" in this verse is written as a term for something that is unknown.

What it is and when it is coming is not precisely told but the ceasing of prophecy is a hallmark of its arrival.
 
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You are side stepping the question. I will ask it again. If Paul meant the return of Jesus Christ as the "perfect" why not just say so?
Because, Paul, expects people, to read his words on an individual basis, not the viewpoint, from a conglomerate group of tripe, creating false doctrines.

And listen here, this goes to ALL false doctrines. Every Denomination, has at least TWO of them!
 

Lamar

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I get alone for hours and days. I have 2 ways of reading the Bible.
While beginning at Genesis 1:1 and going until Revelation, I also will jump around the Prophets and New Testament.
By time I read the Bible through, I might have read the New Testament several times. And many times as I read, God will cause me to reread a few Verses over and I see what I did not before. That becomes my Message.

What kind of stupid just exactly is this idiotic esoteric knowledge?

I only live, by Discerning the Holy Spirit!
Since you admit you don't know what esoteric knowledge is, why would you label it "stupid" and "idiotic"?
It may be that your esoteric knowledge is telling you this.

How very very ironic.
 

Fundaamental

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You eventually admitted you did not write it, after the fact of
being called out on it, but certainly at first you definitely did not.



I implied no such thing. In fact I made quite clear I knew you
had not written it, and I gave the source for it right away.
You deflect a lot. Bad habit. Get over it.
you are verry rude

this was my post mentioning the sons of jacob hours befor i posted the source about jacobs sons the one I was thinking of was a son of Jacob who was thrown in a well who was able to interpret dreams with his colourful raincoat



this was your first post to me you knew allready it was not something i had wrote.



expand...Are you Seventh Day Adventist?

https://adventistreview.org/magazine-article/jacobs-gift-of-prophecy/

That is where I found the source of your post.


this is your first post to me above which you knew allready it was not something i had wrote.
so i could i have known you where going to assume what you did assume after my next responce
this is my responce

What's an SDa and my source of information is a 12 months study at least.

i knew already knew that it was not something you where assuming i had wrote I thought you knew I had not wrote it.
i simply called it my source of infomation and not something i had wrote.

this is your reply
Are you saying you wrote that article?

this is my reply

have no idea what this is, is it a religion
And no I did not write the source why would you ask me theese things.


so as you can see i had no idea you where implying i had wrote it at first because you said this is where you got your source.

so if you call it your source of infomation meaning me, then your also saying this is my source of information.

That is why I called it my source of information

so once again you have chosen to insult me for this and really there was no need.
 

Magenta

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You are side stepping the question. I will ask it again. If Paul meant the return of Jesus Christ as the "perfect" why not just say so?

Jesus will not come, He will return. It is the "perfect" that will come.

Jesus is never named as the "perfect". The Father is described as being perfect but not as the "perfect".

The word "perfect" in this verse is written as a term for something that is unknown.

What it is and when it is coming is not precisely told but the ceasing of prophecy is a hallmark of its arrival.
So when Jesus returns, He will not come? You make so little sense here on top
of it being quite frankly almost shocking that you dispute Jesus being perfect.


Besides which, you did not ask me the question in the first place.
 

Lamar

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WILL YOU SERIOUSLY SET THE GLASS PIPE DOWN?

It's called Discerning of the Holy Spirit. You really are too far gone!
Is it possible that your "discerning of the Holy Spirit" is wrong?
Just maybe?
 
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Since you admit you don't know what esoteric knowledge is, why would you label it "stupid" and "idiotic"?
It may be that your esoteric knowledge is telling you this.

How very very ironic.
I looked it up and then quickly researched the connection to why you would have access to such a term, from your church teaching.
And to Label that to those who are Continuist is Stupid!

How I explained God opens my eyes while reading His Holy Word, is same way as ALL Pastors I know and associate with do.

So, to think other Denominations use this towards Continuist as explanation, shows just a level of ignorance one can become.