Do you think transgenders go to heaven?

[Blain]

Thanks brother!!

No worries I may not understand it but I have helped plenty of people who came here with this kind of issue some were gay some were attracted to things that I won't mention and they all were pretty used to the Christian treatment and a lot of them struggled with this side of them and their faith in God one of them sadly struggled with severe depression he was struggling hard with his desires and he feared he would lose his salvation back then things here were actually a lot worse attacks were more frequent and unrelenting he was being barraded by a certain user here being show scripture after scripture showing his sin.

I recieved one last pm from him thanking me for all my help and support but that he was going to take his life he didn't see any point in waiting for hell.

I begged him and begged him to not do it to please respond and I never heard from him again.

People don't just struggle with their faith or their gender or sexuality they struggle with depression anxiety suicidal tendencies ect.

But instead of considering this I have seen Christians actually condemning them with scripture when if we as followers of Christ should instead help them not tear them down they don't need to be reminded of their flaws they need to be reminded who they are to God

 

[Jeanette]

No worries I may not understand it but I have helped plenty of people who came here with this kind of issue some were gay some were attracted to things that I won't mention and they all were pretty used to the Christian treatment and a lot of them struggled with this side of them and their faith in God one of them sadly struggled with severe depression he was struggling hard with his desires and he feared he would lose his salvation back then things here were actually a lot worse attacks were more frequent and unrelenting he was being barraded by a certain user here being show scripture after scripture showing his sin.

I recieved one last pm from him thanking me for all my help and support but that he was going to take his life he didn't see any point in waiting for hell.

I begged him and begged him to not do it to please respond and I never heard from him again.

People don't just struggle with their faith or their gender or sexuality they struggle with depression anxiety suicidal tendencies ect.

But instead of considering this I have seen Christians actually condemning them with scripture when if we as followers of Christ should instead help them not tear them down they don't need to be reminded of their flaws they need to be reminded who they are to God

That made me tearful..

Myself Im just a scared person, scared of being condemned to Hell.

Thank you so much for those words!

 

[Snacker]

It seems to me you are happy with a version of God that befits your views of hate towards others and not a version that has love for everyone.

It didn’t take you long to figure him out. Now shake the dust off your feet and ignore him.

 

[Jeanette]

If you don't read the Bible for yourself how could you possible know that? Having grown up in the Methodist church, I know firsthand that the God they teach and preach is not the true God of the Bible. The Baptist church is getting where it's not much better.

I don't really know what the point of continuing with this would be. You see yourself as transgender and believe scientific studies have given you a legitimate out. Sounds to me like you already have all the answers you need so I won't waste any more of my time or yours.

Bye Alien you are ignored

 

[heartwashed]

1Co 15:1, Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
1Co 15:2, By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
1Co 15:3, For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1Co 15:4, And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

1Jo 1:9, If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

If you are transgender because of a perverted sexual desire to experience sex as someone of an opposite gender from someone who is of the same gender, then you need to confess that as sin...it is in effect homosexuality.

But the scripture is clear that Jesus died for all sins and that you are saved if you keep in memory the gospel of 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.

1 John 1:9 is clear that in order to be forgiven we need to acknowledge our sin as being sin.

 

[ResidentAlien]

1Co 15:1, Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
1Co 15:2, By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
1Co 15:3, For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1Co 15:4, And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

1Jo 1:9, If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

If you are transgender because of a perverted sexual desire to experience sex as someone of an opposite gender from someone who is of the same gender, then you need to confess that as sin...it is in effect homosexuality.

But the scripture is clear that Jesus died for all sins and that you are saved if you keep in memory the gospel of 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.

1 John 1:9 is clear that in order to be forgiven we need to acknowledge our sin as being sin.

Watch out, you fearfully close to be labeled a hater.

 

[heartwashed]

Watch out, you fearfully close to be labeled a hater.

I have nothing but love for transgender people.

The reason why we are labeled as haters by these people of the world is because they feel hatred towards us...and they project their hatred onto us, psychologically.

 

[ResidentAlien]

I have nothing but love for transgender people.

The reason why we are labeled as haters by these people of the world is because they feel hatred towards us...and they project their hatred onto us, psychologically.

Amen, good point. I believe you're probably right.

 

[Jeanette]

1Co 15:1, Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
1Co 15:2, By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
1Co 15:3, For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1Co 15:4, And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

1Jo 1:9, If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

If you are transgender because of a perverted sexual desire to experience sex as someone of an opposite gender from someone who is of the same gender, then you need to confess that as sin...it is in effect homosexuality.

But the scripture is clear that Jesus died for all sins and that you are saved if you keep in memory the gospel of 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.

1 John 1:9 is clear that in order to be forgiven we need to acknowledge our sin as being sin.

I have been transgender since age 3, where I did not even know sex existed.

The rest, I believe.

 

[hornetguy]

Its actually not, when the accusation is true.

It could even be seen as an act of compassion because the person spilling the hate needs to know how it affects others and may change their ways and not commit that sin, which is much worse than transgenderism as some of might be born with transgenderism, which is something some here who say Im justifying it, do not understand. Hate on the other hand, is an evil thing. Christians who act with hate, forget in 15 minutes they could die in a car crash. And God does not tolerate haters when He himself loves everyone and forgives those who seek Him. I seek Him every night.

Yep.... troll.
I am what I am. I don't want to be, but I'm not going to try to change, because I must be "true to myself" and not live a lie.
If you disagree with me, you are a HATER, and God hates haters.

Following the playbook right down the line.

 

[hornetguy]

Oh yeah and let me add this: just because you're a scientist, does not mean you are always right. If you say you always are that would be the sin of pride. How many times have scientists been proven wrong? Millions of times.

It could be that you are right,, but bit could be that you are wrong and they are right. Simple as that.

Oh and wow ALMOST ALL THE DOCTORS! So you, because you are a scientist, go against what ALMOST ALL THE DOCTORS SAY..because of your own ideology. Hmnn.......that tells me a lot.

And your responses tell all of us a lot. Troll, no doubt. Been here before under a different name, just recently.

 

[Jeanette]

And your responses tell all of us a lot. Troll, no doubt. Been here before under a different name, just recently.

Excuse me???? Do you know who I am??? Also you just judged me!

Have you read any of my postings? You know what I know what you are you are a hater. The Devil uses people like you to turn people who truly thirst for salvation like me, away from God. Dont you realize this?

Or it could be that you do not believe in science.

Either way congratulations, you made it to my ignore list.

 

[PennEd]

Youre just turning my words against me.

I dont even know who you are. I dont even have a reason to hate or be angry at you.

You on the other hand seem to hate me because you know I am transgender.

A Christian with hate is probably not a real Christian at heart. At least, its one who seriously needs to look himself or herself inside out, like we all are actually because we are all sinners. But hate is far worse than most sins.

The KKK called themselves Christian yet they hated everyone. I dont think that is really Christian.

People like you and Resident are the reason many who are in need of, and searching, get discouraged from attending church. By spilling anger, hate and turning people's own words against them, you kill the desire to get closer to God.

Think about that and ask God to help you, the way I do every night.

The fact is I have shown you zero hatred.

Show me the post where I said something hateful.

Otherwise let’s see if you can swallow your pride and apologize.

You don’t like when I said you were a hater with hateful intent.

But that’s exactly how you tried to paint me, and others that disagree with you, and tell you that repenting, living completely as a man, and rejecting the sin of transgenderism.

You have said you don’t believe transgenderism is sin.

No one denies you have those feelings, but it’s still sin.

 

[hornetguy]

Excuse me???? Do you know who I am??? Also you just judged me!

Have you read any of my postings? You know what I know what you are you are a hater. The Devil uses people like you to turn people who truly thirst for salvation like me, away from God. Dont you realize this?

Or it could be that you do not believe in science.

Either way congratulations, you made it to my ignore list.

Yep.... you just proved it.

 

[ResidentAlien]

"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

The Bible is inspired by God's sayings, but that does not mean that everything in it is what God said. The Bible was written by humans, and humans err.

No, I'm sorry, I have to correct you there. The Bible is God breathed, God speaking through man. King David said "
"The Spirit of the Lord spoke by me,And His word was on my tongue." The Bible is infallible, every word God breathed. Otherwise we have no hope of salvation.

 

[heartwashed]

I have been transgender since age 3, where I did not even know sex existed.

The rest, I believe.

You had an operation at age 3?

If not, how did you know you were transgender, since you had no concept of sex?

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

God hasnt made people who are born without a brain, people with a heart in the right side, people with mental disabilities, people with 6 fingers in one hand, he hasnt made people with two sexual organs, he hasnt made people who were conjoined, or people who were born with AIDS or heart disease or people who were born blind, deaf, mute, etc etc...ah?
.

No, God did not make them born that way. That is because of the fallen world we live in.

We are not mistakes, but we are born like that. We are born the way God wants us to be.

No, you're not born that way. How cruel would God be to call something sin and then create people that way? God has loving limits on sex for a reason. He set the standard of man and woman in the garden and it has not changed.

I know what Deutoromy says but you have to remember, the Bible was written in a way that many of their sayings benefited the people of Israel, such as the saying that says "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly. " and in those times, Israel had a law against cross dressing.

That has nothing to do with sexuality. God made man and woman for a man. There is no other way around it.

I am a Christian, and I believe He loves me. I did commit one of the sins in the ten commandments which was sex before marriage but I repented from that. Transgenderism isnt even among the ten commandments.
Also, I began behaving like this aged 3. Aged five I had a vision one time when I was playing at my house, a man came to me and he had carpenter tools, he bent down and said to me :"I am God, and I will be accompanying you for the rest of your life!" he then disappeared. Halleluyah!

He does love you and He has a better path for your life. You don't need to be in bondage to sex, you can be set free. You just need to trust Him. I get it, sex is a powerful thing and it tempts us all. We all struggle with sin but we cannot let it overcome us, we must be overcomers. Find a good friend that will pray with you and trust God and as you seek Him He will set you free. That is His promise.

He is my friend and He loves me no matter what. And He knows because every night I pray for forgiveness that if I did something that upset Him I am sorry.

Yes, He does love you, He is your friend! Don't stop, keep drawing closer to Him and He will keep His promise. We become more like Him the closer we come to Him. Old loves, friends, ways will pass and we will be the person He meant us to be.

 

[heartwashed]

2Pe 1:3, According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
2Pe 1:4, Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

 

[HeIsHere]

I agree about this.

As I said I go to Him every night and pray for forgiveness. Something many here seem to not read.

Your forgiveness has already been accomplished over 2000 years ago, what you need to do is believe it.