How to love your family, when God hates the nonelects?
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Yes Jesus himself calls himself the rock but that is the thing that confuses me he is THE rock but in this instance he was clearly speaking to peter saying upon THis rock I will build my church not The Rock
Clealry Jesus is the rock of the church there is no denying that so why does it seem he is calling peter a rock I mean didn't church come into existance at once with the baptism of the holy spirit? He didn't build the church
Clealry Jesus is the rock of the church there is no denying that so why does it seem he is calling peter a rock I mean didn't church come into existance at once with the baptism of the holy spirit? He didn't build the church
Not only that, but there is a plethora of Scriptures attesting to God being the only Rock.
I'll go fetch some of them...
Jesus is the Rock of our salvation. God is the only Rock of our salvation.
Psalm 78:35
And they remembered that God was their rock, And the Most High God their Redeemer.
Genesis 49:24
But his bow remained firm, And his arms were agile, From the hands of the
Mighty One of Jacob (From there is the Shepherd, the Stone of Israel),
Deuteronomy 32:15
"But Jeshurun grew fat and kicked-- You are grown fat, thick, and sleek--
Then he forsook God who made him, And scorned the Rock of his salvation.
Psalm 42:9
I will say to God my rock, "Why have You forgotten me? Why do I go mourning because of the oppression of the enemy?"
Isaiah 30:29
You will have songs as in the night when you keep the festival, And gladness of heart as when
one marches to the sound of the flute, To go to the mountain of the LORD, to the Rock of Israel.
Habakkuk 1:12
Are You not from everlasting, O LORD, my God, my Holy One? We will not die You, O LORD,
have appointed them to judge; And You, O Rock, have established them to correct.
2 Samuel 22:32
"For who is God, besides the LORD? And who is a rock, besides our God?
Psalm 18:31
For who is God, but the LORD? And who is a rock, except our God,
1 Samuel 2:2
"There is no one holy like the LORD, Indeed, there is no
one besides You, Nor is there any rock like our God.
Isaiah 44:8
'Do not tremble and do not be afraid; Have I not long since announced it to you and declared it?
And you are My witnesses Is there any God besides Me, Or is there any other Rock? I know of none.'"
Deuteronomy 32:31
"Indeed their rock is not like our Rock, Even our enemies themselves judge this.
Deuteronomy 32:37
"And He will say, 'Where are their gods, The rock in which they sought refuge?
Psalm 144:1
Blessed be the LORD, my rock, Who trains my hands for war, And my fingers for battle;
Deuteronomy 32:4
"The Rock! His work is perfect, For all His ways are just; A God of faithfulness and without injustice, Righteous and upright is He.
Psalm 92:15
To declare that the LORD is upright; He is my rock, and there is no unrighteousness in Him.
Psalm 62:7
On God my salvation and my glory rest; The rock of my strength, my refuge is in God.
Psalm 28:1
To You, O LORD, I call; My rock, do not be deaf to me, For if You are silent to me, I will become like those who go down to the pit.
Psalm 31:1-3
In You, O LORD, I have taken refuge; Let me never be ashamed; In Your righteousness deliver me.
Incline Your ear to me, rescue me quickly; Be to me a rock of strength, A stronghold to save me.
For You are my rock and my fortress; For Your name's sake You will lead me and guide me.
Psalm 61:2
From the end of the earth I call to You when my heart is faint; Lead me to the rock that is higher than I.
Psalm 71:3
Be to me a rock of habitation to which I may continually come; You have
given commandment to save me, For You are my rock and my fortress.
Isaiah 26:4
"Trust in the LORD forever, For in GOD the LORD, we have an everlasting Rock.
Psalm 94:22
But the LORD has been my stronghold, And my God the rock of my refuge.
2 Samuel 22:3
My God, my rock, in whom I take refuge, My shield and the horn of my salvation,
my stronghold and my refuge; My savior, You save me from violence.
Psalm 18:2
The LORD is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer, My God, my rock, in
whom I take refuge; My shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold.
Psalm 95:1
O come, let us sing for joy to the LORD, Let us shout joyfully to the rock of our salvation.
2 Samuel 22:47
"The LORD lives, and blessed be my rock; And exalted be God, the rock of my salvation,
Psalm 18:46
The LORD lives, and blessed be my rock; And exalted be the God of my salvation,
Psalm 19:14
Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart Be acceptable in Your sight, O LORD, my rock and my Redeemer.
Psalm 62:2
He only is my rock and my salvation, My stronghold; I shall not be greatly shaken.
Psalm 89:26
"He will cry to Me, 'You are my Father, My God, and the rock of my salvation.'
Isaiah 17:10
For you have forgotten the God of your salvation And have not remembered the rock of your
refuge. Therefore you plant delightful plants And set them with vine slips of a strange god.
Isaiah 8:14
"Then He shall become a sanctuary; But to both the houses of Israel, a stone to strike
and a rock to stumble over, And a snare and a trap for the inhabitants of Jerusalem.
Isaiah 28:16
Therefore thus says the Lord GOD, "Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone, a tested stone, A costly
cornerstone for the foundation, firmly placed. He who believes in it will not be disturbed.
Psalm 118:22
The stone which the builders rejected Has become the chief corner stone.
Matthew 21:42
Jesus said to them, "Did you never read in the Scriptures, 'THE STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS REJECTED, THIS
BECAME THE CHIEF CORNER stone; THIS CAME ABOUT FROM THE LORD, AND IT IS MARVELOUS IN OUR EYES'?
Mark 12:10
"Have you not even read this Scripture: 'THE STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS REJECTED, THIS BECAME THE CHIEF CORNER stone;
Luke 20:17
But Jesus looked at them and said, "What then is this that is written: 'THE STONE
WHICH THE BUILDERS REJECTED, THIS BECAME THE CHIEF CORNER stone'?
Acts 4:11
"He is the STONE WHICH WAS REJECTED by you, THE BUILDERS, but WHICH BECAME THE CHIEF CORNER stone.
1 Peter 2:6-7
For this is contained in Scripture: "BEHOLD, I LAY IN ZION A CHOICE STONE, A PRECIOUS CORNER stone, AND HE
WHO BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED." This precious value, then, is for you who believe; but for
those who disbelieve, "THE STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS REJECTED, THIS BECAME THE VERY CORNER stone,"
Matthew 21:44
"And he who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; but on whomever it falls, it will scatter him like dust."
Luke 20:18
"Everyone who falls on that stone will be broken to pieces;
but on whomever it falls, it will scatter him like dust."
Romans 9:32-33
Why? Because they did not pursue it by faith, but as though it were by works. They stumbled
over the stumbling stone, just as it is written, "BEHOLD, I LAY IN ZION A STONE OF STUMBLING
AND A ROCK OF OFFENSE, AND HE WHO BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED."
1 Peter 2:4-8
And coming to Him as to a living stone which has been rejected by men, but is choice and precious in the
sight of God, you also, as living stones, are being built up as a spiritual house for a holy priesthood, to offer
up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. For this is contained in Scripture: "BEHOLD,
I LAY IN ZION A CHOICE STONE, A PRECIOUS CORNER stone, AND HE WHO BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED."
Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name
under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.
I'll go fetch some of them...
Jesus is the Rock of our salvation. God is the only Rock of our salvation.
Psalm 78:35
And they remembered that God was their rock, And the Most High God their Redeemer.
Genesis 49:24
But his bow remained firm, And his arms were agile, From the hands of the
Mighty One of Jacob (From there is the Shepherd, the Stone of Israel),
Deuteronomy 32:15
"But Jeshurun grew fat and kicked-- You are grown fat, thick, and sleek--
Then he forsook God who made him, And scorned the Rock of his salvation.
Psalm 42:9
I will say to God my rock, "Why have You forgotten me? Why do I go mourning because of the oppression of the enemy?"
Isaiah 30:29
You will have songs as in the night when you keep the festival, And gladness of heart as when
one marches to the sound of the flute, To go to the mountain of the LORD, to the Rock of Israel.
Habakkuk 1:12
Are You not from everlasting, O LORD, my God, my Holy One? We will not die You, O LORD,
have appointed them to judge; And You, O Rock, have established them to correct.
2 Samuel 22:32
"For who is God, besides the LORD? And who is a rock, besides our God?
Psalm 18:31
For who is God, but the LORD? And who is a rock, except our God,
1 Samuel 2:2
"There is no one holy like the LORD, Indeed, there is no
one besides You, Nor is there any rock like our God.
Isaiah 44:8
'Do not tremble and do not be afraid; Have I not long since announced it to you and declared it?
And you are My witnesses Is there any God besides Me, Or is there any other Rock? I know of none.'"
Deuteronomy 32:31
"Indeed their rock is not like our Rock, Even our enemies themselves judge this.
Deuteronomy 32:37
"And He will say, 'Where are their gods, The rock in which they sought refuge?
Psalm 144:1
Blessed be the LORD, my rock, Who trains my hands for war, And my fingers for battle;
Deuteronomy 32:4
"The Rock! His work is perfect, For all His ways are just; A God of faithfulness and without injustice, Righteous and upright is He.
Psalm 92:15
To declare that the LORD is upright; He is my rock, and there is no unrighteousness in Him.
Psalm 62:7
On God my salvation and my glory rest; The rock of my strength, my refuge is in God.
Psalm 28:1
To You, O LORD, I call; My rock, do not be deaf to me, For if You are silent to me, I will become like those who go down to the pit.
Psalm 31:1-3
In You, O LORD, I have taken refuge; Let me never be ashamed; In Your righteousness deliver me.
Incline Your ear to me, rescue me quickly; Be to me a rock of strength, A stronghold to save me.
For You are my rock and my fortress; For Your name's sake You will lead me and guide me.
Psalm 61:2
From the end of the earth I call to You when my heart is faint; Lead me to the rock that is higher than I.
Psalm 71:3
Be to me a rock of habitation to which I may continually come; You have
given commandment to save me, For You are my rock and my fortress.
Isaiah 26:4
"Trust in the LORD forever, For in GOD the LORD, we have an everlasting Rock.
Psalm 94:22
But the LORD has been my stronghold, And my God the rock of my refuge.
2 Samuel 22:3
My God, my rock, in whom I take refuge, My shield and the horn of my salvation,
my stronghold and my refuge; My savior, You save me from violence.
Psalm 18:2
The LORD is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer, My God, my rock, in
whom I take refuge; My shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold.
Psalm 95:1
O come, let us sing for joy to the LORD, Let us shout joyfully to the rock of our salvation.
2 Samuel 22:47
"The LORD lives, and blessed be my rock; And exalted be God, the rock of my salvation,
Psalm 18:46
The LORD lives, and blessed be my rock; And exalted be the God of my salvation,
Psalm 19:14
Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart Be acceptable in Your sight, O LORD, my rock and my Redeemer.
Psalm 62:2
He only is my rock and my salvation, My stronghold; I shall not be greatly shaken.
Psalm 89:26
"He will cry to Me, 'You are my Father, My God, and the rock of my salvation.'
Isaiah 17:10
For you have forgotten the God of your salvation And have not remembered the rock of your
refuge. Therefore you plant delightful plants And set them with vine slips of a strange god.
Isaiah 8:14
"Then He shall become a sanctuary; But to both the houses of Israel, a stone to strike
and a rock to stumble over, And a snare and a trap for the inhabitants of Jerusalem.
Isaiah 28:16
Therefore thus says the Lord GOD, "Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone, a tested stone, A costly
cornerstone for the foundation, firmly placed. He who believes in it will not be disturbed.
Psalm 118:22
The stone which the builders rejected Has become the chief corner stone.
Matthew 21:42
Jesus said to them, "Did you never read in the Scriptures, 'THE STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS REJECTED, THIS
BECAME THE CHIEF CORNER stone; THIS CAME ABOUT FROM THE LORD, AND IT IS MARVELOUS IN OUR EYES'?
Mark 12:10
"Have you not even read this Scripture: 'THE STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS REJECTED, THIS BECAME THE CHIEF CORNER stone;
Luke 20:17
But Jesus looked at them and said, "What then is this that is written: 'THE STONE
WHICH THE BUILDERS REJECTED, THIS BECAME THE CHIEF CORNER stone'?
Acts 4:11
"He is the STONE WHICH WAS REJECTED by you, THE BUILDERS, but WHICH BECAME THE CHIEF CORNER stone.
1 Peter 2:6-7
For this is contained in Scripture: "BEHOLD, I LAY IN ZION A CHOICE STONE, A PRECIOUS CORNER stone, AND HE
WHO BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED." This precious value, then, is for you who believe; but for
those who disbelieve, "THE STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS REJECTED, THIS BECAME THE VERY CORNER stone,"
Matthew 21:44
"And he who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; but on whomever it falls, it will scatter him like dust."
Luke 20:18
"Everyone who falls on that stone will be broken to pieces;
but on whomever it falls, it will scatter him like dust."
Romans 9:32-33
Why? Because they did not pursue it by faith, but as though it were by works. They stumbled
over the stumbling stone, just as it is written, "BEHOLD, I LAY IN ZION A STONE OF STUMBLING
AND A ROCK OF OFFENSE, AND HE WHO BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED."
1 Peter 2:4-8
And coming to Him as to a living stone which has been rejected by men, but is choice and precious in the
sight of God, you also, as living stones, are being built up as a spiritual house for a holy priesthood, to offer
up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. For this is contained in Scripture: "BEHOLD,
I LAY IN ZION A CHOICE STONE, A PRECIOUS CORNER stone, AND HE WHO BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED."
Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name
under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.
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We often say such things as, "Christianity is a relationship, not a religion." And that relationship is personal, with each
individual being in relationship with the Person of Jesus Christ. How can any separate the personal element of it?
The personal element takes a drubbing from those who love to talk down modern praise and worship, also.
I am not trying to imply/insinuate anything about you with that observation...
I am not familiar with your music tastes/preferences .
individual being in relationship with the Person of Jesus Christ. How can any separate the personal element of it?
The personal element takes a drubbing from those who love to talk down modern praise and worship, also.
I am not trying to imply/insinuate anything about you with that observation...
I am not familiar with your music tastes/preferences .
Isn't that the essence of total depravity? Many kick against that simply because of the words. They don't like to think
of themselves as having been depraved before coming to believe. And yet Scripture does teach that God draws us.
Paul Simon had a song called, Still Crazy After All These Years. Or maybe
it was an LP title. Anyways, that may apply to some Christians. LOL
of themselves as having been depraved before coming to believe. And yet Scripture does teach that God draws us.
Paul Simon had a song called, Still Crazy After All These Years. Or maybe
it was an LP title. Anyways, that may apply to some Christians. LOL
Agree, it is personal. For certain!
What I am not saying is that it is only for a specific few or that people are unable to believe the Gospel because they are triple blinded.
It is a common tactic to bring up Peter, which was a very unique time in the history and development of Christianity and then assert that people can only believe by some specific act of God and that hearing the Gospel is not sufficient.
What I am not saying is that it is only for a specific few or that people are unable to believe the Gospel because they are triple blinded.
It is a common tactic to bring up Peter, which was a very unique time in the history and development of Christianity and then assert that people can only believe by some specific act of God and that hearing the Gospel is not sufficient.
I wasn't questioning Jesus as the rock of salvation in any way I was just curious as to why when Jesus was speaking to Peter he said on this rock I will build my church but to Peter specifically
He wasn't talking about salvation he was talking about the building of his church so he clearly wasn't referencing himself as the rock of salvation when here he says He then stated, “And I say also unto thee, Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it”
So I apologize my curiosity gets the best of me sometimes I was just curious about this because the belief Peter built the church because Jesus called him the rock he would build it upon well I wondered why Jesus called him a rock and that he would build upon it his church when if I am not mistaken wasn't the baptsim of the holy spirit that made the apostles speak in tongues when the church began or did Peter actually start a church
OOps Im sorry I forgot to un bold the letters I have to look up and down a lot to type because I have to be so close to the keyboard so mistakes like that happen. But anyways I actually think I did a study a long time ago about the churches being started by Peter first if I am not mistaken or am I wrong?
I don't remember where to find it the bible
He wasn't talking about salvation he was talking about the building of his church so he clearly wasn't referencing himself as the rock of salvation when here he says He then stated, “And I say also unto thee, Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it”
So I apologize my curiosity gets the best of me sometimes I was just curious about this because the belief Peter built the church because Jesus called him the rock he would build it upon well I wondered why Jesus called him a rock and that he would build upon it his church when if I am not mistaken wasn't the baptsim of the holy spirit that made the apostles speak in tongues when the church began or did Peter actually start a church
OOps Im sorry I forgot to un bold the letters I have to look up and down a lot to type because I have to be so close to the keyboard so mistakes like that happen. But anyways I actually think I did a study a long time ago about the churches being started by Peter first if I am not mistaken or am I wrong?
I don't remember where to find it the bible
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