Angels can procreate

[Ted01]

Is premarital sex ok? Not the best but many people do it. Having premarital sex may or may not affect your marriage.

Here is a case of premarital sex. "Suppose a man has intercourse with a young woman who is a virgin but is not engaged to be married. If they are discovered, he must pay her father fifty pieces of silver.c Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he may never divorce her as long as he lives. " Deut 22:28 Just tell the couple to get married.

"Not the best but many do it" & "premarital sex may or may not affect your marriage". Interesting John.

John, why do you suppose God put "restrictions" on sex? I'd really like to know your opinion. To be honest, I truly don't fully understand why He did, however I do believe that He did it because it's not the best thing & it will definitely a/effect marriage.

 

[seoulsearch]

I'm sure they will welcome you into the Eunuchs club in heaven

That seems to be your default insult -- anyone who disagrees with you gets told they'll go to the Eunuch's Club in heaven.

Even if it's true, why would that be a bad thing?

It's heaven. No sin and only God's perfect will.

Why do you talk of it as if it's more of a Leprosy Club?

 

[oyster67]

"Not the best but many do it" & "premarital sex may or may not affect your marriage". Interesting John.

John, why do you suppose God put "restrictions" on sex? I'd really like to know your opinion. To be honest, I truly don't fully understand why He did, however I do believe that He did it because it's not the best thing & it will definitely a/effect marriage.

It is a beautiful picture of Christ's deep and committed faithfulness to His Bride, the Church. God likewise requires that her eye be single towards Him. We are currently betrothed to Him and the Marriage shall soon be consummated in Heaven once we have been raptured and glorified together with the saints of the past.

John 14:

1Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

 

[JohnB]

"Not the best but many do it" & "premarital sex may or may not affect your marriage". Interesting John.

John, why do you suppose God put "restrictions" on sex? I'd really like to know your opinion. To be honest, I truly don't fully understand why He did, however I do believe that He did it because it's not the best thing & it will definitely a/effect marriage.

To try and put controls on men's sexual desires. This is clear from Paul saying, "It is better to marry than to burn with lust"

 

[Ted01]

To try and put controls on men's sexual desires. This is clear from Paul saying, "It is better to marry than to burn with lust"

How would getting married control carnal desires? I don't get that...
I mean, yeah it might be good to have a female "handy"... but if you're driven by lust and the secretary at work is willing?

There's got to be more to it than that.
Why did Paul say this:

1 Cor. 6 (ESV)

13 ...The body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. 14 And God raised the Lord and will also raise us up by his power. 15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a prostitute? Never! 16 Or do you not know that he who is joined to a prostitute becomes one body with her?

 

[oyster67]

To try and put controls on men's sexual desires. This is clear from Paul saying, "It is better to marry than to burn with lust"

This is just one example among many of why people need the Lord.

 

[oyster67]

Why people need to humbly concede that Father knows best.

 

[Mem]

Does say about these Angels that:
18 Then Adonai appeared to him at Mamre’s large trees while he was sitting in the entrance of his tent during the heat of the day. 2 When he lifted up his eyes to see, suddenly, three men were standing right by him. When he saw them, he ran from the entrance of his tent to meet them and bowed down to the ground.

Notice what Abraham saw : three men were standing right by him

So God and 2 Angels looked exactly like 3 Human Men to Abraham.

Clearly, Angels do have all of the attributes that humans do.

Besides, human Women BORING FOR THEM is not because of the process of intercourse but invitro, like the Holy Spirit did with Mary.

Scripture does not say God and two angels, that's just an assumption you've adopted. There's no mention of angels in this passage, as a matter of fact, and I'm pretty sure that neither are any these men referred to as angels in the account of Lot's rescue and the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. They are Adonai, Himself, since they are referred to in the plural but answer in the singular.

 

[ButterflyJones]

I'm sure they will welcome you into the Eunuchs club in heaven

Maybe you should troll Catholic forums.

 

[Mem]

Your current Bible, the Old Testament, is the literal Greek Hellenized Septuagint, and 7 times Your Bible lists UNICORNS, the Mythical Greek Creature, is listed 7 times in God's Holy Word.

So, your Old Testament, is indeed a portion of Greek Myth!

I haven't adopted any Greek myths, even though the most common ones like this where gods mate with humans and create Titan offspring by just swapping angels for gods and titans for Nephilim.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Scripture does not say God and two angels, that's just an assumption you've adopted. There's no mention of angels in this passage, as a matter of fact, and I'm pretty sure that neither are any these men referred to as angels in the account of Lot's rescue and the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. They are Adonai, Himself, since they are referred to in the plural but answer in the singular.

22 Then the men turned from there and went toward Sodom, but Abraham was still standing before Adonai.
1 Now the two angels came to Sodom in the evening, while Lot was sitting at the gate of Sodom.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

I haven't adopted any Greek myths, even though the most common ones like this where gods mate with humans and create Titan offspring by just swapping angels for gods and titans for Nephilim.

Well, God told this Story to Moses in the HEBREW. Moses wrote it in the HEBREW. Less errors occur when we read this Chapter in the HEBREW.

 

[Mem]

22 Then the men turned from there and went toward Sodom, but Abraham was still standing before Adonai.
1 Now the two angels came to Sodom in the evening, while Lot was sitting at the gate of Sodom.

My bad, I was too lazy to go double check, just getting off work . Still, this isn't proof angels had sex with humans, just because the townsfolk wanted to have a go at them. They had no idea they were anything but men.

 

[Clayman]

According to the Old Testament, the Anakim lived in the southern part of the land of Canaan, near Hebron (Gen. 23:2; Josh. 15:13). It had nothing to do with the Hebrews having sex with the Canaanites.

Exactly and this is way God tells us. There was Anakim in Canaan in those days when the Hebrews came into the land of Canaan. Its the same thing as in Gen 6

There were giants on the earth in those days and also afterwards When the Sons of Seth married the descendants of Cain.

The whole reason for the verse is so we can know the Nephilim are not the specific result of these unions for they were already there existing beforehand in those days.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

My bad, I was too lazy to go double check, just getting off work . Still, this isn't proof angels had sex with humans, just because the townsfolk wanted to have a go at them. They had no idea they were anything but men.

They believed they could have sex with them:

5 And they called out to Lot and said to him, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have relations with them!”

וַיִּקְרְא֤וּ אֶל־לוֹט֙ וַיֹּ֣אמְרוּ ל֔וֹ אַיֵּ֧ה הָאֲנָשִׁ֛ים אֲשֶׁר־בָּ֥אוּ אֵלֶ֖יךָ הַלָּ֑יְלָה הוֹצִיאֵ֣ם אֵלֵ֔ינוּ וְנֵדְעָ֖ה אֹתָֽם׃
And they shouted to Lot and said to him, “Where are the ones who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may be intimate with them.”


They want to have Relations or be Intimate with them. They clearly believe these are MEN who can be used for sex.

 

[Clayman]

That was my next question, you asked before I did lol.

Oh snap! You should ask anyway, The question is still not answered so im going to have to ask again, I just hope to get an answer. Maybe he will answer someone else.

 

[Clayman]

To try and put controls on men's sexual desires. This is clear from Paul saying, "It is better to marry than to burn with lust"

Hypothetically from your point of view, If there is no sex in heaven will you still want to go there?

 

[oyster67]

Angels can't procreate


Poor angels.
Must look down upon all those cats and dogs and rats and frogs and just turn green with envy.

 

[HeIsHere]

22 Then the men turned from there and went toward Sodom, but Abraham was still standing before Adonai.
1 Now the two angels came to Sodom in the evening, while Lot was sitting at the gate of Sodom.

19 And two of the messengers come towards Sodom at even, and Lot is sitting at the gate of Sodom, and Lot seeth, and riseth to meet them, and boweth himself -- face to the earth,


They were messengers, people not angels.

 

[Nehemiah6]

They were messengers, people not angels.

That's funny. Since angels are in fact messengers from God, and messengers from God are in fact angels, what a quaint observation. It is because they were angels that they had the power and strength to drag Lot and is family out of Sodom.