Which Church Denomination, System, Program did you attend where it made you afraid of intimacy and women? Is this Wesleyan, Baptist, Catholic?
Angels can procreate
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It doesn’t even mention angels in this verse
the sons of God are mankind adam for instance
“which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.”
Luke 3:38
The Bible is actually very clear there is. I single verse ever saying the equivalent of any angel in fact the scriptire makes that point
“hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, This day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, And he shall be to me a Son?”
Hebrews 1:2, 4-5
arhat has never happened God has never called an angel his son infact the “son “ of God us a higher name than an angel of God the chh he listen of God are those he made in his image only one species of creation thats man
“Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; and deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.”
Hebrews 2:14-16 KJV
The line of the son of God is mankind angels were never created in his image
John is hung up over things he experienced in Calvary Chapel years ago.....
https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...rce-and-remarriage.209513/page-3#post-5010461
https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...-is-to-get-married.210865/page-9#post-5073724
We know Angels are called morning stars. Here, the Hebrew calls the morning stars Sons of God!
7 when the morning stars sang together,
and all the Sons of God shouted for joy?
7 when the morning stars sang together,
and all the Sons of God shouted for joy?
Yes agree with your points, but for me it wore thin after the first thread.
I see the purity movement is still a live in the church today. I hate to see people fall for it.
I have never been afraid of intimacy. The purity movement is and so are many churches.
Will you hearken to Jesus? is He an authority? He when questioned about marriage in heaven He said "women will be as the angels in heaven they neither give nor are they given in marriage"
No sex in heaven
If someone will say that angels fell by taking upon themselves flesh and blood I would ask where they got the creative power from?
the whole issue is that we don’t first read the things we’re explaining
“which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.”
Luke 3:38 KJV
When God created all creation he made one final creation to rule over what he had made he made this particular creature in a distinct way different from any other creature the lord had made
“And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.”
Genesis 1:26-28 KJV
this is the origin and meaning of the terminology “ the sons of God “ they are the single and only creature created in his image and likeness.
God having to sons isnt the same as when a man has a son through pro creation , Gods children are those he created in his image and likeness and gave freedom and dominion on earth and rule over all the other creatures of earth just as God the father rules all of heaven , man his son is meant to rule all the earth in his nature of goodness and truth and peace for life and not death as man has done
angels were never made in Gods image , God never created an earthly physical Body for them because of this
“being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance ( children inherit ) obtained a more excellent name than they.
For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, This day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, And he shall be to me a Son?
And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, And his ministers a flame of fire.”
Hebrews 1:4-7 KJV
Hebrews one alone seperates men from angels in that very thing angels aren’t the children of God but his spiritual heavenly servants who worship Jesus the son of God
christians are born into the body of Christ as the sons of God through true worship of the true God found in the gospel
Hebrews two then Further cements the seperation of the two creatures distinction again being who the children are
“Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; ( why he became flesh )that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; ( Jesus the son didn’t become like an angel but the seed of a particular man ) but he took on him the seed of Abraham.
Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.”
Hebrews 2:14, 16-17 KJV
It’s also why angels aren’t the ones being redeemed and offered salvation from sin .
The sons of God were the line of Seth
rhe daughters of men they married were the children of cain who had already been cast out of Gods people and began his own city.
God wants his people to marry and find his people it’s why he forbade intermarriage between israel and other nations who worshipped other gods It’s still not a good idea for instance for a Christian man to seek out and find a witch to marry it’s always going to lead the good astray and corrupt
excellent
And I saw something I hadn't seen before ... Adam AND Eve the sons of God.
What exactly do you mean by "purity movement"... that was an idea from the late 1800's. I understand that it lingered well into the 1900's and probably still today... but what do you mean by it?
I did not use those Verses to claim Angels had Sex.
But I will show you a Verse that explains it much better:
6 And the angels—who did not keep their own position of authority but deserted their proper place—He has kept in everlasting shackles under gloomy darkness until the judgment of the great Day.
7 In the same way as these angels, Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them—having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after a different sort of flesh—are displayed as an example, suffering the punishment of eternal fire
These Angels in Genesis 6 [[DID NOT HAVE SEX]]...they given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after a different sort of flesh.
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Whether you agree or not, the Holy Spirit, instructed for this to be Written as Reason these Angels are in Chains and Eternal Darkness waiting Judgement Day ... they given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after a different sort of flesh.
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