Prophecy warfare

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Fundaamental

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I have shared my understanding: this refers to regular people, not to prophets.


The text doesn't support that idea at all, which is why I reject it.


The text tells us that she was not a prophet. That she shared the name is irrelevant.


Children: 1. biological progeny; 2. inheritors of traits, habits, characteristics from an influencer. The term can mean literal biological children or people who copied her ways; the text could be interpreted both ways, or mean both together.
seems like your quotes are highly questionable to. 😊
 

Magenta

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1 kings 18:22 Then Elijah said to the people, “I am the only remaining prophet of the LORD, but Baal has four hundred and fifty prophets.

Look all the prophets of the lord had defected to baal.
Elijah was the only one left.

Ok so if you don't see that some of these prophets had defected to God, can you see these prophets where of two opinions.

I'm also through talking about what a Jezebel is, you refuse to accept it.
Are you saying all Baal's prophets had defected from being God's prophets, or only some had?

Where does Scripture identify any of the false prophets as once having been God's prophets?
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Fundaamental

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The purpose of the op was to discuss something else, are we any near to this yet, or should I start another thread or can we start to discuss this. Or must we scrutinize that children also refers to the spiritual in the bible, I know I can find scripture to back this up. But I'm not here to prove myself right.

In here to discuss this. Can we discuss it :unsure:

Signs that Christians have the spirit prophecy.


Signs that Christians do indeed have the spirit prophecy.

Starting with the first 4 claims of the op.


You desire deep intimacy with God. You have a deep prayer life.

(Hebrews 13)
6 So we say with confidence, “The Lord is my helper; I will not be afraid. What can mere mortals do to me?”
7 Remember your leaders, who spoke the word of God to you. Consider the outcome of their way of life and imitate their faith.
8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.
9 Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teachings. It is good for our hearts to be strengthened by grace, not by eating ceremonial foods, which is of no benefit to those who do so.
10 We have an altar from which those who minister at the tabernacle have no right to eat.


You hear God speak to you in many of the ways in which He speaks to the prophets.

4. GOD SPEAKS THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT
“But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you” (John 14:26).

Always seeking to hear the Lord on situations. Prophets always looks for what God has to say

Is not my word like fire, declares the LORD, and like a hammer that breaks the rock in pieces? (Jer. 23:29)
For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart. (Heb. 4:12)

You have premonitions or received information from the Lord on future events that you’ve seen come to pass.

Warnings (such as Pharoah’s dreams in Genesis 41 warning him to store up food to prepare for a coming famine)
Helping people who in need (such as Paul’s dream in Acts 16 urging him to go to Macedonia, where people needed to hear the gospel)
Both the Old Testament and New Testament describe a variety of prophetic dreams. Those dreams sometimes provide information about individual people (like Abimelech’s dream about Sarah in Genesis 20 and Pontius Pilate’s wife’s dream about Jesus in Matthew 27) and sometimes give information about future historical events (such as Nebuchadnezzar’s dream in Daniel 2 and Daniel’s dream in Daniel 7).
 

Fundaamental

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Are you saying all Baal's prophets had defected from being God's prophets, or only some had?

Where does Scripture identify any of the false prophets as once having been God's prophets? .:unsure:
I have already quoted scripture from a different passage in time where prophets of God had gone wicked, it was rejected along with everything else.
Theres no point in me showing it again.
 

Dino246

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I have already quoted scripture from a different passage in time where prophets of God had gone wicked, it was rejected along with everything else.
Theres no point in me showing it again.
You have showed the verses and shared your misreading of them, claiming they say something that they don’t. That’s why your claims are rejected.
 

Magenta

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I have already quoted scripture from a different passage in time where prophets
of God had gone wicked, it was rejected along with everything else.
Theres no point in me showing it again.
I didn't see it. Do you mean this? ~ .:unsure:

1 kings 18:21 Then Elijah approached all the people and said, “How long will you waver
between two opinions? If the LORD is God, follow Him. But if Baal is God, follow him.”
But the people did not answer a word. 22 Then Elijah said to the people, “I am the only
remaining prophet of the LORD, but Baal has four hundred and fifty prophets."


I found that repeated in your post stream, but it does not say what you claim.

Got anything else? Something... definitive?
 

Fundaamental

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I didn't see it. Do you mean this? ~ .:unsure:

1 kings 18:21 Then Elijah approached all the people and said, “How long will you waver
between two opinions? If the LORD is God, follow Him. But if Baal is God, follow him.”
But the people did not answer a word. 22 Then Elijah said to the people, “I am the only
remaining prophet of the LORD, but Baal has four hundred and fifty prophets."


I found that repeated in your post stream, but it does not say what you claim.

Got anything else? Something... definitive?
like I said no point in me sharing scripture anymore.

No this was not the scripture i provided, sorry magenta the lord has told me not to provide anymore scripture here,. Bye keep ya chin up. 😊
 

Dino246

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like I said no point in me sharing scripture anymore.

No this was not the scripture i provided, sorry magenta the lord has told me not to provide anymore scripture here,. Bye keep ya chin up. 😊
More avoidance of accountability. Not surprising, sadly.
 

Magenta

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like I said no point in me sharing scripture anymore.

No this was not the scripture i provided, sorry magenta the lord has told me not to provide anymore scripture here,. Bye keep ya chin up. 😊
I have given you no reason for you to have that attitude with me.
 

Fundaamental

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I have given you no reason for you to have that attitude with me.
I was being nice to you. The lord doesn't want me to post any more scripture at this time, which has nothing to do with you.
I have been told by the lord to share something with you personally befor I go,

Time stands still for the God the father in his his kingdom.
All his scripture spoken to us may represent different time zones to us, but not to him.

Now I have to go the lord has called me to leave you with this thought and to not look back untill he tells me otherwise.

Which means I don't know how long I would be gone befor I return. Bye again.😊
 

ResidentAlien

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"Your leaders are like wolves who tear apart their victims. They actually destroy people’s lives for money! And your prophets cover up for them by announcing false visions and making lying predictions. They say, ‘My message is from the Sovereign LORD,’ when the LORD hasn’t spoken a single word to them." Ezekiel 22:27-28
 

wolfwint

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look Jezebels are fallen angels, choose to accept it or not.

Makes no difference, fallen angels where at work with the prophets of baal.

Im prohesying against fallen angels that my gift.
Where in the bible followers of Christ have the task to prophecy against fallen angels? Or have the task to hunt them?
I dont know which Spirit guide you in this. It is not the Holy Spirit.
 

hornetguy

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I was being nice to you. The lord doesn't want me to post any more scripture at this time, which has nothing to do with you.
I have been told by the lord to share something with you personally befor I go,

Time stands still for the God the father in his his kingdom.
All his scripture spoken to us may represent different time zones to us, but not to him.

Now I have to go the lord has called me to leave you with this thought and to not look back untill he tells me otherwise.

Which means I don't know how long I would be gone befor I return. Bye again.😊
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Angela53510

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exactly 9 minutes 40 seconds of the song is when she sings about prohesying into every situation. Listen to drums and heart beat man, the king of my heart is Jesus, who will prohesize into every situation for a Christian who seeks through the heart of passion in the believer.

Here is a taste.
Prophecy number 1
Ask the lord it shall be given.
2 knock seek the door will be opened.
3 believe in Jesus ye shall be saved
4 my sheep hear my voice.
5 there is more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who turns from his or her way than 99 righteous people who don't repent.
6 The lord will direct my steps.
7 the lord answers my prayers
8 The lord tends to all my needs
9 the lord is the king of my heart.
10 The lord gives me the words to say.

The lord will open the eyes of the blind.

Now you know my belief is sincere.
Jesus is the prophet of a Christian.
Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
Jesus lives in the heart of a Christian.
Now put your head phones on and blast this song into your head and heart and sing it to your children 😊

I went back to 9:40 and listened till around 11 minutes. All she sang over and over was "you're never gonna let, never let me down... it's not in your nature!" Over and over.

Did you post the wrong video? That one had nothing theologically or musically worth while in it. I have been a professional musician, choir leader & music teacher for many years, still play on a worship team. I'm also working on a PhD in Theology. That video was without merit, and nothing at all like what you posted!
 

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And when I was studying Education at university for my teaching degree, we had a class that taught us how to present lessons. A long lecture lesson was a no no a short pithy lesson was a winner.
Hallo Angelia. I tend to go with the experts.
 

Angela53510

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I was being nice to you. The lord doesn't want me to post any more scripture at this time, which has nothing to do with you.
I have been told by the lord to share something with you personally befor I go,

Time stands still for the God the father in his his kingdom.
All his scripture spoken to us may represent different time zones to us, but not to him.

Now I have to go the lord has called me to leave you with this thought and to not look back untill he tells me otherwise.

Which means I don't know how long I would be gone befor I return. Bye again.😊
God doesn't want you to quote Scripture? Why? Because you don't know the Bible well enough to quote it? Because your reading comprehension is so poor, you don't understand what any sentence says, let alone a verse of Scripture!?

Because you are dyslexic? You kept calling Wolfwint Mr Minty! I couldn't figure out why you would confuse his name so badly. Then something else you wrote made me realize you have quite bad dsylexia. You read the W in WolfWint as an M. You flipped the letter over. You have poor spelling, grammar, fail to capitalize Holy Spirit, which minimizes him as God! But you obviously never got far enough in school to understand and learn that basic concept!

I'm sorry you have no reading comprehension, at least partly because you are dyslexic. We have been trying to show you most of what you are saying is wrong, not in the Bible, or makes any sense. But you can't understand what we are saying, because your reading ability, including being able to take what is actually in the text, and repeat or rephrase it, is not there.

Your arrogance and supposed calling are a sad cover up for your inabilities to read & write. Please humble yourself. God would never call someone as a prophet, who has no understanding of what the Bible says, because of being a poor reader, who probably has never attempted to read the Bible. I'm sorry for your disability, but that doesn't mean I will accept all these false visions and explanations as true. Nor will anyone else!

Please stop making up things, to make up for your reading deficits. It is not your fault you can barely read! But, it is your fault for pretending to be a prophet, when you don't understand the character of God, have never read the Bible, lie about God telling g you not to quote Scripture, and have NO calling!

PS I was a teacher for many years, including working with students with learning disabilities & dyslexia! I'm sorry you never got the help you needed, but it still doesn't excuse lying about so many things!
 

Angela53510

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Hallo Angelia. I tend to go with the experts.
Me, too! Except my experts have explained that communication is important, not brevity. In fact, brevity has led to nothing but confusion & illiteracy in schools. I was a teacher for many years. Writing & speaking clearly, can always be understood, whether short or long. But brevity does fall short when it becomes a main educational tool for teaching!

I've taught English, ESL, French as a second language, and French immersion, plus learning disabilities, after I had to stop teaching music, because the working conditions in my school district were so bad for music teachers. So, I had to retrain a bit, & never found any nonsense about using one liners, as a teacher. But lots about breaking down subjects, organizing skills systematically to build a more complex skill on a simpler skill.

My father was also a teacher. Well, he started as a teacher then became a university professor. He taught me a lot about teaching, too! I also taught 2-3 year olds in Sunday School. Parents were delighted their little toddlers came home, excited to tell a simple Bible story they heard in my class. Age appropriate, of course!

Yet, you are quoting some over glorified educators who have dummied down our curriculum & educational system so badly, you end up with functional illiterates like poor Mr. Fundaamental, who can't begin to read or understand a complex book like the Bible, let alone spell the word fundamental, let alone prophet. Although anyone can understand the gospel, if it is explained clearly to them! And a one liner won't do for that, either!

Oh, I'm working on a PhD in theology now! Stopped teaching when I got severe Rheumatoid Arthritis. How about you? Still teaching? Just curious!