Calvin did not invent the doctrines of grace
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Thats works and dishonoring to the saving death of Christ, saying His death wont work unless man pitches in with his act of exercising faith.
Thats works and dishonoring to the saving death of Christ, saying His death wont work unless man pitches in with his act of exercising faith.
Why was Nineveh spared? Because they believed God and repented. This was not God believing for them. They heard the word preached and they believed.
5 So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them.
5 So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them.
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[[To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David, the servant of the LORD, who spake unto the LORD the words of this song in the day that the LORD delivered him from the hand of all his enemies, and from the hand of Saul: And he said,]] I will love thee, O LORD, my strength. The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer;my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler,and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower. I will call upon the LORD, who is worthy to be praised: so shall I be saved from mine enemies.
From The Enduring Word Bible Commentary by David Guzik:
In these nine titles, we see what God was for David:
© 2020 The Enduring Word Bible Commentary by David Guzik
https://www.blueletterbible.org/comm/guzik_david/study-guide/psalm/psalm-18.cfm?a=496001
[[To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David, the servant of the LORD, who spake unto the LORD the words of this song in the day that the LORD delivered him from the hand of all his enemies, and from the hand of Saul: And he said,]] I will love thee, O LORD, my strength. The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer;my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler,and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower. I will call upon the LORD, who is worthy to be praised: so shall I be saved from mine enemies.
From The Enduring Word Bible Commentary by David Guzik:
In these nine titles, we see what God was for David:
- His strength, the One who empowered him to survive against and defeat his enemies.
- His rock, which indicates a place of shelter, safety, and a secure standing.
- His fortress, a place of strength and safety.
- His deliverer, the One who made a way of escape for him.
- His God, “my strong God, not only the object of my adoration, but he who puts strength in my soul.” (Clarke)
- His strength, but this uses a different Hebrew word than in Psalm 18:1. According to Clarke, the idea behind this word is fountain, source, origin.
- His shield, who defends both his head and his heart.
- His horn, meaning his strength and defense.
- His stronghold, his high tower of refuge where he could see an enemy from a great distance and be protected from the adversary.
© 2020 The Enduring Word Bible Commentary by David Guzik
https://www.blueletterbible.org/comm/guzik_david/study-guide/psalm/psalm-18.cfm?a=496001
Sorry for the delay. I went on vacation, and just got back.
2 Tim 2:13 - It is my understanding of this verse that when we are born again, Eph 2:5, we are quickened together with Christ, and because we are in Christ, and Christ is in us, even if we believe not, he cannot deny the fact that he is in us, and cannot deny himself.
This would seem to prove that belief is not a requirement to be saved eternally. Please give me your thoughts on this subject.
2 Tim 2:13 - It is my understanding of this verse that when we are born again, Eph 2:5, we are quickened together with Christ, and because we are in Christ, and Christ is in us, even if we believe not, he cannot deny the fact that he is in us, and cannot deny himself.
This would seem to prove that belief is not a requirement to be saved eternally. Please give me your thoughts on this subject.
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reneweddaybyday, I have been following your conversation with grightfame52, and rogerg, om the subject of the born again losing their fellowship with God when they are drawn away by the lust of their flesh, and I agree with you on that subject.
Where I disagree with you is how the natural man, before he has been born again, (Eph 2:1-5), cannot, when he hears the gospel, respond positively because the gospel is about spiritual things that he cannot discern (1 Cor 2:14).
The only way that the natural man can respond positively to spiritual things is after God, by his grace, quickens him to the new spiritual life, by exchanging his heart of stone with a fleshy heart, (2 Cor 3:3) (Ezl 11:9), that can be pricked to feel spiritual guilt (Eph 2:1-5) (Acts 2:37) (psalms 73:21) (acts 26:14).
reneweddaybyday, I have been following your conversation with grightfame52, and rogerg, om the subject of the born again losing their fellowship with God when they are drawn away by the lust of their flesh, and I agree with you on that subject.
Where I disagree with you is how the natural man, before he has been born again, (Eph 2:1-5), cannot, when he hears the gospel, respond positively because the gospel is about spiritual things that he cannot discern (1 Cor 2:14).
The only way that the natural man can respond positively to spiritual things is after God, by his grace, quickens him to the new spiritual life, by exchanging his heart of stone with a fleshy heart, (2 Cor 3:3) (Ezl 11:9), that can be pricked to feel spiritual guilt (Eph 2:1-5) (Acts 2:37) (psalms 73:21) (acts 26:14).
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Faith is not a work but only if it is given to someone by God as a gift, which, as a gift, is the only way that true faith can be obtained so as to not be a work, otherwise, it is a work. For Christ, however, His works were central to His righteousness and His faith, thereby making Him, faithful. It is His faith which is given to those whom He has chosen, from and by which, and only from and by which, do they have true faith and righteousness.
[Jhn 6:29 KJV] 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
[Gal 2:16 KJV] 16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
[Rom 3:22 KJV] 22 Even the righteousness of God [which is] by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
[Phl 3:9 KJV] 9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
[Jhn 6:29 KJV] 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
[Gal 2:16 KJV] 16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
[Rom 3:22 KJV] 22 Even the righteousness of God [which is] by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
[Phl 3:9 KJV] 9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
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Christ was not even made flesh on this earth when Abrahams faith was accounted to him as righteousness so how do you see Jesus being the recipient of righteousness?
When was He ever unrighteous?
Boggles the mind it does
Christ was not even made flesh on this earth when Abrahams faith was accounted to him as righteousness so how do you see Jesus being the recipient of righteousness?
When was He ever unrighteous?
Boggles the mind it does
Christ was the ordained Saviour before the foundation of the world, even before He became flesh.
[1Pe 1:20 KJV] 20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,
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Christ was not even made flesh on this earth when Abrahams faith was accounted to him as righteousness so how do you see Jesus being the recipient of righteousness?
When was He ever unrighteous?
Boggles the mind it does
Christ was not even made flesh on this earth when Abrahams faith was accounted to him as righteousness so how do you see Jesus being the recipient of righteousness?
When was He ever unrighteous?
Boggles the mind it does
because Christ gave to him his belief ("who by him do believe").
[Rom 4:9 KJV] 9 [Cometh] this blessedness then upon the circumcision [only], or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness.
[1Pe 1:19-21 KJV]
19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,
21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.