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Adonai:
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
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Beloved, HaTorah (the Law of Life) is this:
Thou shalt not see thy brother's ox or his sheep go astray, and hide thyself from them: thou shalt in any case bring them again unto thy brother.
Therefore, how much more important is it to rescue with correction your brethren and sistren - even those of us who go astray in going about our beloved Father's business.
I adjure that you hold nothing back of the discourse that the Lord our God hath granted thee, unto my correction. Such IS lawful and just.
Please.
But if I do not err, why do you kick against the pricks?
Thou shalt not see thy brother's ox or his sheep go astray, and hide thyself from them: thou shalt in any case bring them again unto thy brother.
Therefore, how much more important is it to rescue with correction your brethren and sistren - even those of us who go astray in going about our beloved Father's business.
I adjure that you hold nothing back of the discourse that the Lord our God hath granted thee, unto my correction. Such IS lawful and just.
Please.
But if I do not err, why do you kick against the pricks?
Beloved -
know ye not that ye scoff?
Is it not written:
Do not correct a scoffer, lest he hate you; Rebuke a wise man, and he will love you.
Therefore, know ye not what thou sayest of thyself - in speaking in such a manner?
Do your words reflect the fruits of the Spirit, beloved?
But wisdom is justified of all her children.
Please, if I err, admonish with wisdom, knowledge, and understanding; for in doing so, the Light granted thee by the Father of Lights doth shine brightly - unto the salvation of all who lack.
know ye not that ye scoff?
Is it not written:
Do not correct a scoffer, lest he hate you; Rebuke a wise man, and he will love you.
Therefore, know ye not what thou sayest of thyself - in speaking in such a manner?
Do your words reflect the fruits of the Spirit, beloved?
But wisdom is justified of all her children.
Please, if I err, admonish with wisdom, knowledge, and understanding; for in doing so, the Light granted thee by the Father of Lights doth shine brightly - unto the salvation of all who lack.
It's not your words, but their tone. Speaking truth is not enough. It must be accompanied by love in order for it to be received.
If you lower yourself to where we are, your words will be received. If you lower yourself beneath us, your words will not only be received, but will be received with gladness.
If you lower yourself to where we are, your words will be received. If you lower yourself beneath us, your words will not only be received, but will be received with gladness.
Beloved,
It is true - these words are not my own. And we are in accord, regarding what you say: speaking The Truth is not enough. But you have not understood the nature of all that has transpired until now, the very spirit of the engagement. With your own words, ye do multiply courtesies; but a number of our beloved friends - who did speak before you - did speak with insolence.
Is is not written:
Open rebuke is better Than love carefully concealed.
again:
Faithful are the wounds of a friend, But the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.
Therefore, please consider - if any brother or sister would approach with isolence, such bears witness of the treasures of their own heart.
Insolence without just cause is wickedness.
is it not written:
A righteous man falling down before the wicked is as a troubled fountain, and a corrupt spring.
And therefore, when beloved Peter - the rock of the church, established by His Majesty - did deal with Adonai with insolence:
(Open rebuke is better Than love carefully concealed.)
From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
But He turned and said to Peter, “Get behind Me, Satan! You are an offense to Me, for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men.”
If i am in err, HaTorah (the Law of Life) is "by witness of two or three" and diligent search is to be accomplish, evidence is to be examined and the thing is to be proven - made certain.
But I have been accused without due process. Such IS unjust
If I do not rebuke, I fall under any and all who practice lawlessness - and all who proceed in such manner suffer the same,
Why should I be devoured, beloved.
What I hear, I share in goodly faith,.
It is true - these words are not my own. And we are in accord, regarding what you say: speaking The Truth is not enough. But you have not understood the nature of all that has transpired until now, the very spirit of the engagement. With your own words, ye do multiply courtesies; but a number of our beloved friends - who did speak before you - did speak with insolence.
Is is not written:
Open rebuke is better Than love carefully concealed.
again:
Faithful are the wounds of a friend, But the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.
Therefore, please consider - if any brother or sister would approach with isolence, such bears witness of the treasures of their own heart.
Insolence without just cause is wickedness.
is it not written:
A righteous man falling down before the wicked is as a troubled fountain, and a corrupt spring.
And therefore, when beloved Peter - the rock of the church, established by His Majesty - did deal with Adonai with insolence:
(Open rebuke is better Than love carefully concealed.)
From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
But He turned and said to Peter, “Get behind Me, Satan! You are an offense to Me, for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men.”
If i am in err, HaTorah (the Law of Life) is "by witness of two or three" and diligent search is to be accomplish, evidence is to be examined and the thing is to be proven - made certain.
But I have been accused without due process. Such IS unjust
If I do not rebuke, I fall under any and all who practice lawlessness - and all who proceed in such manner suffer the same,
Why should I be devoured, beloved.
What I hear, I share in goodly faith,.
Actually, Under Grace, Paul states that very thing - "a new law":
Rom_3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded.
By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
Rom_9:32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but
as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;
Gal_2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of
the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed
in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ,
and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law
shall no flesh be justified.
Gal_3:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit
by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
Gal_3:5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and
worketh miracles among you, doeth He it by the works of
the law, or by the hearing of faith?
How does this new law, Under Grace, now function?:
With Christ Living In us, To Fulfil:
All Of His (old) Law, In "One Word: Love thy neighbor as thyself!"
(Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10)
"For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor
uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love." (Galatians 5:6)
"Simplicity In Christ," Amen?
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Please Be Very RICHLY Encouraged And Edified In
The LORD JESUS CHRIST, And His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided (+ I and II).
Grace, Peace, And JOY!… + RICH Blessings
Rom_3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded.
By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
Rom_9:32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but
as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;
Gal_2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of
the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed
in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ,
and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law
shall no flesh be justified.
Gal_3:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit
by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
Gal_3:5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and
worketh miracles among you, doeth He it by the works of
the law, or by the hearing of faith?
How does this new law, Under Grace, now function?:
With Christ Living In us, To Fulfil:
All Of His (old) Law, In "One Word: Love thy neighbor as thyself!"
(Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10)
"For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor
uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love." (Galatians 5:6)
"Simplicity In Christ," Amen?
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Please Be Very RICHLY Encouraged And Edified In
The LORD JESUS CHRIST, And His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided (+ I and II).
Grace, Peace, And JOY!… + RICH Blessings
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beloved, why do you speak of Paul - when there is One greater than he before us continually?
There is no greater authority than His Majesty, the Lord Jesus of Nazareth, the only begotten Son of the true and living God.
And His majesty has shown us with great authority and power - that no other report is to be exaulted above His:
Adonai:
The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here.
The words He spoke to us, that we extol His Presence above all others. Who is Paul, that I should hear him above my King?
Simplicity, beloved? Behold the words of Mother Wisdom:
"Come, eat of my bread, and drink of the wine which I have mingled.
Forsake the simple and live, | And be blessed in the way of understanding.”
All who have ears to hear, let then hear:
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
What manner of life - specifically - did Adonai live? Synagogue, under beloved Moses; and it is by the 'Law of life' - HaTorah - that His members were brought into submission, And how did He defeat Hasatan in the wilderness, after fasting 40 days and 40 nights?
He pronounced boldly HaTorah - which are the statutes of His government.
If we know not what is pleasing to the Most High God, then we will lack the ability to discern what is displeasing; and hence, in the last day:
When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
The Lord be magnified - above all others. Amen.
There is no greater authority than His Majesty, the Lord Jesus of Nazareth, the only begotten Son of the true and living God.
And His majesty has shown us with great authority and power - that no other report is to be exaulted above His:
Adonai:
The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here.
The words He spoke to us, that we extol His Presence above all others. Who is Paul, that I should hear him above my King?
Simplicity, beloved? Behold the words of Mother Wisdom:
"Come, eat of my bread, and drink of the wine which I have mingled.
Forsake the simple and live, | And be blessed in the way of understanding.”
All who have ears to hear, let then hear:
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
What manner of life - specifically - did Adonai live? Synagogue, under beloved Moses; and it is by the 'Law of life' - HaTorah - that His members were brought into submission, And how did He defeat Hasatan in the wilderness, after fasting 40 days and 40 nights?
He pronounced boldly HaTorah - which are the statutes of His government.
If we know not what is pleasing to the Most High God, then we will lack the ability to discern what is displeasing; and hence, in the last day:
When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
The Lord be magnified - above all others. Amen.
Hi - If I understand what you say - its back to 'faith' only not by works - that contradicts the passages Yaacov mentions and - Acts 15:29 - That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well. & again Acts 21:25-26 25 As for the Gentile believers, we have written to them our decision that they should abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality.” 26 The next day Paul took the men and purified himself along with them. Then he went to the temple to give notice of the date when the days of purification would end and the offering would be made for each of them.
= they clearly state 'law' (what is allowed and not allowed) - 'wattie' mentions the 10 commandments (but not Moses!)- so there appears to be some contradiction - are we meant to keep some law or none? Bearing in mind you quote what Paul has said not what was said by Jesus - albeit Paul appears to follow the law in Acts and did not object.
That there be no doubt, ye beloved ones:
Adonai: (after our Beloved Everlasting Father had risen)
And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass; I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first. Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.
Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden. But that which ye have already hold fast till I come. And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
And I will give him the morning star.
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
May ye be blessed by His Majesty, our Most Beloved - the Wonderful Counselor - rejoicing in His blessings above the blessings of all others.
The Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth, the only begotten Son of the true and living God be magnified above all others.
Adonai: (after our Beloved Everlasting Father had risen)
And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass; I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first. Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.
Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden. But that which ye have already hold fast till I come. And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
And I will give him the morning star.
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
May ye be blessed by His Majesty, our Most Beloved - the Wonderful Counselor - rejoicing in His blessings above the blessings of all others.
The Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth, the only begotten Son of the true and living God be magnified above all others.
I give you a new law. That law is, "Love each other." As I have loved you, so you also love each other. (Jesus' words in John 13:34)
Romans 13:10
Romans 13:10
Yes Love agreed - 'new commandment' but Jesus does not say no 'Law' - Romans arguably contradicts other passages - bit of a messy one - but still of the opinion - must have to have some 'right' & 'wrong' otherwise you cannot sin and therefor do what every you want, it doent matter as long as you have faith.