Yes we establish the law because the one who fulfilled the law lives inside us.... without him we cannot fulfill the law
Christ kept the Law of Moses, so....
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Yes we establish the law because the one who fulfilled the law lives inside us.... without him we cannot fulfill the law
Gal 5:4 KJV "Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace."
Rom 3:19 KJV "Now we know that what things soever the law sayeth, it sayeth unto them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before the Lord."
Before Jesus died, we were under the law. After He died, we are now under His grace.
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"Solely to the Jews?" The first converts of Christ were in fact Samaritans! And the first worshipers of Christ were Gentiles from either Persia or Arabia who traveled hundreds of miles to worship Him!
"Primarily to the Jews" would be correct, but Christ was traveling all over Palestine, and only Judea was limited to the Jews. At the same time while Christ was addressing the Jews He was also addressing the whole world. And the greatest faith He found was in a Roman centurion.
Can you show us where it says that they were "converts"? He simply commanded them to follow Him, and they dropped everything and followed Him. Now compare that to what happened in Samaria.
Why don't you show us where it says the Samaritans were converted before anybody else, since that is your claim.
In fact the disciples are said to believe in Jesus right away, and that preceded the Samaritans doing so. Compare to:
14 When the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent Peter and
John to them. 15 On their arrival, they prayed for them to receive the Holy Spirit. 16 For the Holy Spirit had
not yet fallen upon any of them; they had simply been baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus. From Acts 8.
Why don't you show us where it says the Samaritans were converted before anybody else, since that is your claim.
In fact the disciples are said to believe in Jesus right away, and that preceded the Samaritans doing so. Compare to:
14 When the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent Peter and
John to them. 15 On their arrival, they prayed for them to receive the Holy Spirit. 16 For the Holy Spirit had
not yet fallen upon any of them; they had simply been baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus. From Acts 8.
Still waiting...
There must be a differing understanding of converts here. On one hand, Jesus converted fishmen into apostles and on the other, the Samaritans converted to Christianity?
Kindly read chapters 3 & 4 of the Gospel of John. The other Gospels do not mention this. And he must needs go through Samaria.
Christianity did not yet exist.
And I am still waiting for @Nehemiah6 to provide the verse that says Samaritans were the
first converts, as that was his claim, and he wants us to believe it is so based on Scripture.
Or to admit that such a verse does not exist.
Sorry for the late reply to this. Work is picking up and I can't hop on CC as I used to.
The law is not and has never been the issue. This is literally the notion I'm arguing against. It may seem like a small thing but it isn't. If we read Paul's letters this way it pits the law against grace, which doesn't work on any level. And then we need to work backward (logically) to try to extrapolate the Father's reason for giving it as "well He gave the law to us to show we could never obey it."
But such a notion is literally NOWHERE in scripture. Nowhere.
The law doesn't need to be dealt with. We need to be dealt with. The blood was shed to change US from the inside-out.
Why?
Because the law remains and demands either our death or our compliance.
His blood cleans "the inside of the cup". Matthew 23:26
Justified means "to be made clean" or "right".
Did you know that no law ANYWHERE...from ANY government or society...has the power to make you or me "right" in the eyes of the law once we have broken it? It isn't something unique to the kingdom of Heaven. Paul didn't state a fact unique to God's law. He was introducing an immutable fact about "law" and properly applying that fact to God's law. No law can make you "right" in the eyes of the law once broken because a law is created to show us what a crime is. Its created purpose - in any government - is to show us the boundary we're not to cross. Thus the mere existence of a law (any law) doesn't (ergo) make the citizens "right"; it does nothing to affect the internal qualities and character of a person.
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^ This is what Paul was saying. He wasn't making an argument against the law but was clarifying its true scope and purpose. So we must stop reading Paul's words as if he is. When we are found guilty of breaking a law we need to go to the judge either to pay or to be forgiven of the crime. We can't immediately start obeying the law we broke to somehow make us "right" retroactively when we're already found guilty. No law works that way. So likewise with God's law. We must get forgiveness by going to the Heavenly Judge to be made "right" once again.
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With this said, there is another issue that arises that Paul addresses when considering God's law in particular - The corrupt/evil flesh of man.
When GOD'S LAW is necessarily introduced (i.e. necessary because every kingdom or government has a law its citizens must abide by), we IMMEDIATELY want to disobey it. Why? Because God is good and we are not (our flesh). He tells us "do not" and immediately our flesh says "then I want to more".
Thus, something ELSE was needed...apart from the NECESSARY LAW (i.e. "apart from" simply means "outside of" and does NOT mean "in replacement of")...to affect this change of internal qualities and character, otherwise people would continue to break God's law, deserve to die, break His law, deserve to die, break the law, die, sin, die, sin, die...and on and on.
And that "something else" is the glorified Spirit (Holy Spirit) and personal strength of the Son to be obedient (Grace), which we must tap into and "listen to" in order to fulfill/satisfy the immutable, necessary law of God. And when we do, we will have the power to uphold the law as righteous citizens of heaven.
God forgives us of our sins (making us "right") and then gives us the tools and strength to obey (fulfilling the law).
^The New Covenant. The Gospel.
The law is not and has never been the issue. This is literally the notion I'm arguing against. It may seem like a small thing but it isn't. If we read Paul's letters this way it pits the law against grace, which doesn't work on any level. And then we need to work backward (logically) to try to extrapolate the Father's reason for giving it as "well He gave the law to us to show we could never obey it."
But such a notion is literally NOWHERE in scripture. Nowhere.
The law doesn't need to be dealt with. We need to be dealt with. The blood was shed to change US from the inside-out.
Why?
Because the law remains and demands either our death or our compliance.
His blood cleans "the inside of the cup". Matthew 23:26
Justified means "to be made clean" or "right".
Did you know that no law ANYWHERE...from ANY government or society...has the power to make you or me "right" in the eyes of the law once we have broken it? It isn't something unique to the kingdom of Heaven. Paul didn't state a fact unique to God's law. He was introducing an immutable fact about "law" and properly applying that fact to God's law. No law can make you "right" in the eyes of the law once broken because a law is created to show us what a crime is. Its created purpose - in any government - is to show us the boundary we're not to cross. Thus the mere existence of a law (any law) doesn't (ergo) make the citizens "right"; it does nothing to affect the internal qualities and character of a person.
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^ This is what Paul was saying. He wasn't making an argument against the law but was clarifying its true scope and purpose. So we must stop reading Paul's words as if he is. When we are found guilty of breaking a law we need to go to the judge either to pay or to be forgiven of the crime. We can't immediately start obeying the law we broke to somehow make us "right" retroactively when we're already found guilty. No law works that way. So likewise with God's law. We must get forgiveness by going to the Heavenly Judge to be made "right" once again.
----
With this said, there is another issue that arises that Paul addresses when considering God's law in particular - The corrupt/evil flesh of man.
When GOD'S LAW is necessarily introduced (i.e. necessary because every kingdom or government has a law its citizens must abide by), we IMMEDIATELY want to disobey it. Why? Because God is good and we are not (our flesh). He tells us "do not" and immediately our flesh says "then I want to more".
Thus, something ELSE was needed...apart from the NECESSARY LAW (i.e. "apart from" simply means "outside of" and does NOT mean "in replacement of")...to affect this change of internal qualities and character, otherwise people would continue to break God's law, deserve to die, break His law, deserve to die, break the law, die, sin, die, sin, die...and on and on.
And that "something else" is the glorified Spirit (Holy Spirit) and personal strength of the Son to be obedient (Grace), which we must tap into and "listen to" in order to fulfill/satisfy the immutable, necessary law of God. And when we do, we will have the power to uphold the law as righteous citizens of heaven.
God forgives us of our sins (making us "right") and then gives us the tools and strength to obey (fulfilling the law).
^The New Covenant. The Gospel.
First you have to know what grace is lol! according to the Bible:
Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Titus 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; let’s let the Bible speak!
Romans 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. So Apostle Paul said he would not have known lust had it not been for the law. can you you explain this it’s pretty clear. He also said this:
Let’s see if you will believe the Lord! John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
Please explain
Please explain
Ecclesiastes 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. This is the Whole duty of man
Matthew 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
Matthew 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
It funny how people say things with no scripture to back it up, Roman centurion, let’s see what the Lord really said: Matthew 11:11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.