But I believe Christ was always the promise to Abraham.
John 8:56-59.
Zionism among the Evangelicals is contradicted by Scripture
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John 8:56-59.
We differ on when the tribulation takes place so what that all means will be different for us.
You mean with Abraham's Seed, right. As in singular? Which is Christ. That's what Paul taught:
"For the promise that he would be the heir of the world was not to Abraham or to his seed through the law, but through the righteousness of faith."
"Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as of many, but as of one, “And to your Seed,” who is Christ."
"You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise."
Paul taught us how to regard the promises given to Abraham.
Whether or not the Rapture happens 7 years before Armageddon, the Gentile Reign Ends and Tribulation takes place.
Sure. But I believe most of the prophesy in Revelation has already transpired.
You mean except from Wrath?
You surely believe this is Laodecia?
What is left in Laodecia to be fulfilled?
I believe the 7 churches represent the church throughout history. All weren't necessarily present throughout every period in history , but combinations of them can certainly be found today.
I personally think the church is still in its infancy and the end isn't anywhere near.
I see the church already in the Laodicean age, lukewarm at best.
I understand. You believe each church represents a period of time. I believe they are examples of churches in every time.
2 Corinthians 3:13-15~ We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to keep the Israelites from gazing at the end of what was fading away. But their minds were closed. For to this day the same veil remains at the reading of the old covenant. It has not been lifted, because only in Christ can it be removed. And even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts. But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away
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I love this blue panel!
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Romans 9:6b-8 Not all who are descended from Israel are Israel... It is the children of promise who are regarded as offspring.
If we believe the Jews will come to Christ later, and that now is the time of the Gentiles, should we not then pray more earnestly for the Arabs? For the record, I am certainly not against praying for Jews, but it seems to me that the reconciliation of the Arab people is more at hand.
Romans 9:6b-8 Not all who are descended from Israel are Israel... It is the children of promise who are regarded as offspring.
Sister, your ministry on this board blesses me.
The world is such a mess and getting worse, that I'm praying for everyone honestly. But yes, praying for Arabs for sure. Not just them though.
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We should be praying for the salvation of all people...of very kindred, tribe, nation, and tongue.
Thank you Aaron, that is very kind of you to say. I had meant to quote you for that panel, but after entering my info, the quote portion had disappeared (I obviously overwrote it without knowing) and then I could not see the post I had quoted on this page! .Sister, your ministry on this board blesses me.
That is the nicest way of saying "up your game a little and I'll think about it " I have ever seen.Thank you Aaron, that is very kind of you to say. I had meant to quote you for that panel, but after entering my info, the quote portion had disappeared (I obviously overwrote it without knowing) and then I could not see the post I had quoted on this page! .
Eh? No, what happened is exactly as I said with no hidden agenda or ulterior motive... .
I'm just teasing Aaron56. I know you to be one of the most gracious and amenable people on the site.Eh? No, what happened is exactly as I said with no hidden agenda or ulterior motive... .
None of the promises are fulfilled apart from the "SEED [singular]" (Christ); but one should distinguish, when reading the OT passages, between "SEED [singular]" and "SEED [plural]," to grasp what Paul's point is in Galatians. = )
[the one matter does not rule out the other]