Evangelicals the most unfavorable religion

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cv5

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Yes, plead with sinners, not criticise them.
Warn them of the wrath to come. That is the clear intention of the passage.
Limp-wristed mewling does no justice to the Word that is bequeathed to us.
 

Underwhosewings

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Warn them of the wrath to come. That is the clear intention of the passage.
Limp-wristed mewling does no justice to the Word that is bequeathed to us.
Jude 1:22-23 KJV
And of some have compassion, making a difference:
[23] And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
 

cv5

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Do what Noah did, keep building the saving vessel, the House of God
Right. For 120 years more or less. Then "the flood came, and destroyed them all".
Preaching bereft of the multitude of warnings given by no less than Jesus Himself is folly IMO.

Gen 6:3
And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Luk 17:27
They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
1Pe 3:20
Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

And what does the future hold? Consider the following:

Mat 24:37
But as G5618 the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

G5618 - hōsper - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv) (blueletterbible.org)
Strong’s Definitions
ὥσπερ hṓsper, hoce'-per; from G5613 and G4007; just as, i.e. exactly like:—(even, like) as.

This would include the Genesis 6 fallen angels crisis. Obviously given the staggering demonic activity delineated in the book of Revelation.
 

cv5

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Jude 1:22-23 KJV
And of some have compassion, making a difference:
[23] And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
And there you go. "FEAR"....."PULLING THEM OUT OF THE FIRE".

What more exhortation do you need????
 

Cameron143

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A fellow believer does their shopping the same place that you have to go and shop.
The fellow believer has behaviour problems and is very self righteous, so they “Bible bash” the retail staff.
So you are automatically rejected by some, because they connect you with the other “Christian” that Bible bashes them.
Long suffering patience.
🤭🙄
Gotcha. Thanks for explaining.
 

ZNP

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A testimony about being unfavorably viewed

I went to college at Rice University. My first year there everyone was boasting about how they were atheists and mocking Christians, however, I was saved that year and baptized. My next three years we had a prevailing gospel work on that campus that reached every student.

Once I was eating lunch in one of the large college halls. The tables sat ten people and I was sitting at a table at the center of the hall. I could see people standing and eating, especially by the windows, I saw people going up to their rooms to eat because there was no room at the tables and I saw two students sharing one chair at some tables. However, at my table the other nine seats were empty. At first I felt slighted, but then I realized it was like the old westerns where they see the gunslinger come in to town and everyone clears out. We (there were two other brothers who had not arrived yet) would preach the gospel to everyone who sat at our table and after five minutes pray with them. This had transformed the campus. That year the April 1st issue of the school paper was completely focused on us, and mocking Christians, the gospel, and the Bible. We generally had a column in every paper that we paid for, a 500 word gospel message. This paper they would not allow us to do that and instead put in a column designed to look like ours titled "For God, Gold and Glory". One of our gospel contacts came to us and said he thought the flavor on this particular column was off, I just laughed, he actually thought that was our article. But I can tell you everyone was presented with the gospel, every person on that campus was convicted when they saw us. We saw a whole lot of people pray and receive the Lord and we saw a lot of shrieking and outrage by atheists and the enemy.

For example, one thing we did when the attack became very fierce was to go to each college during lunch and hand out tracts to everyone there. We only started doing this when it became clear they were all terrified to be seen sitting at our table. This particular college was the most intense animosity and so I divided the hall in half and gave the other two brothers the easier half. I then went to the central table on my half and walked up to this football player, the "big man on campus" and said "Hey big man, do you want to know why God made you so big?" He froze and didn't say anything. I put this tract on the table "The purpose of Man". Later we were sitting at the table together and the other brothers were shocked that I had gone up to him and talked to him and wanted to know what I had said. We then watched as he was the last person to leave the cafeteria. He took his tray to dishwashers and then on the way out his hand casually landed on the table he had been at, on top of that tract, and when the hand came up and the tract was no longer there. Even this guy was intimidated and scared to be seen by anyone reading the tract or hearing the gospel.

People need to hear the gospel of salvation and what a shame if we are too cowardly to go outside the camp and bear the Lord's shame to do that.
 

cv5

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A testimony about being unfavorably viewed

I went to college at Rice University. My first year there everyone was boasting about how they were atheists and mocking Christians, however, I was saved that year and baptized. My next three years we had a prevailing gospel work on that campus that reached every student.

Once I was eating lunch in one of the large college halls. The tables sat ten people and I was sitting at a table at the center of the hall. I could see people standing and eating, especially by the windows, I saw people going up to their rooms to eat because there was no room at the tables and I saw two students sharing one chair at some tables. However, at my table the other nine seats were empty. At first I felt slighted, but then I realized it was like the old westerns where they see the gunslinger come in to town and everyone clears out. We (there were two other brothers who had not arrived yet) would preach the gospel to everyone who sat at our table and after five minutes pray with them. This had transformed the campus. That year the April 1st issue of the school paper was completely focused on us, and mocking Christians, the gospel, and the Bible. We generally had a column in every paper that we paid for, a 500 word gospel message. This paper they would not allow us to do that and instead put in a column designed to look like ours titled "For God, Gold and Glory". One of our gospel contacts came to us and said he thought the flavor on this particular column was off, I just laughed, he actually thought that was our article. But I can tell you everyone was presented with the gospel, every person on that campus was convicted when they saw us. We saw a whole lot of people pray and receive the Lord and we saw a lot of shrieking and outrage by atheists and the enemy.

For example, one thing we did when the attack became very fierce was to go to each college during lunch and hand out tracts to everyone there. We only started doing this when it became clear they were all terrified to be seen sitting at our table. This particular college was the most intense animosity and so I divided the hall in half and gave the other two brothers the easier half. I then went to the central table on my half and walked up to this football player, the "big man on campus" and said "Hey big man, do you want to know why God made you so big?" He froze and didn't say anything. I put this tract on the table "The purpose of Man". Later we were sitting at the table together and the other brothers were shocked that I had gone up to him and talked to him and wanted to know what I had said. We then watched as he was the last person to leave the cafeteria. He took his tray to dishwashers and then on the way out his hand casually landed on the table he had been at, on top of that tract, and when the hand came up and the tract was no longer there. Even this guy was intimidated and scared to be seen by anyone reading the tract or hearing the gospel.

People need to hear the gospel of salvation and what a shame if we are too cowardly to go outside the camp and bear the Lord's shame to do that.
Great encouraging story bro. We could all use more of that kind of starch in our testimony.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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The scripture shows 1 way.
John 14:6 KJV
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Jesus said….
Matthew 7:14 KJV
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

So you're simply anti-church.
 

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I just got done reading my Bible before bed. John 15 reminded me of this thread, so I'll leave what Jesus says to us on the subject.

"These things I command you, that ye love one another.18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.21 But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me.22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloak for their sin.23 He that hateth me hateth my Father also."
 

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I believe there is a balance. Jesus called people on their sin, then told them to go and sin no more.
Isn’t Jesus our LORD wonderful.

Mark 16:9 KJV
Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.

John 9:2-3 KJV
And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? [3] Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.
 

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Sure enough. The anti-christians are rampant, and rabid.
My gripe is with the cuckoos and charlatans like Greg Locke, Kenneth Copeland... That dude is legit bat poop crazy
I'm not saying all preachers are like this but I literally witnessed a preacher get up behind the pulpit and brag about how much his church pays him.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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My gripe is with the cuckoos and charlatans like Greg Locke, Kenneth Copeland... That dude is legit bat poop crazy
I'm not saying all preachers are like this but I literally witnessed a preacher get up behind the pulpit and brag about how much his church pays him.
I agree, these guys are not christian. They are scoundrels and a hindrance to the gospel.
 

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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My gripe is with the cuckoos and charlatans like Greg Locke, Kenneth Copeland... That dude is legit bat poop crazy
I'm not saying all preachers are like this but I literally witnessed a preacher get up behind the pulpit and brag about how much his church pays him.

And the types you've just talked about are the ones that always want to be prominent. 🤦

 

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Is this in line with Jesus saying the world would hate his disciples as well as they did him?
Hello! I would say so, yes. Some brothers and sisters on the thread have posted and asked if it is something American Evangelicals are doing to generate hatred, politics or nationalism, speaking out on abortion or homosexuality. But this cannot be the underlying reason. Evangelical Christians are hated in all nations, here in Scotland too. Regarding abortion and homosexuality, Evangelicals are hated in nations where abortion and homosexuality are outlawed. They are hated in countries where they seem to speak out on political issues and where they don't.

I would reiterate this scripture:

John 15: 18 “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. 19 If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you"

John 3:20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed.

This ^ is the underlying reason why evangelical Christians are hated. God Bless :)
 

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My gripe is with the cuckoos and charlatans like Greg Locke, Kenneth Copeland... That dude is legit bat poop crazy
I'm not saying all preachers are like this but I literally witnessed a preacher get up behind the pulpit and brag about how much his church pays him.
Hello Dude! Many of the questionable preachers seem to be genuinely popular with the world. For example I saw an interview between Oprah Winfrey and a preacher called 'Joel Olsteen', who is controversial among many Christians but whom I believe has one of the largest congregations in the USA. They got along very well and were in agreement on many issues but the points they were in agreement on seemed to contradict clear teachings of scripture. God Bless :)
 

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#78
The cuckoos and charlatans aren't the ones you have to watch out for.
 

ZNP

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"Lucis Trust" Mid-week Bible Study 3/22/23 Pastor Sandy Armstrong