5 Points of Arminianism

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ForestGreenCook said:
What was your thoughts on Dan 4:35?
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No one can argue with God for either striking Neb with madness or restoring him to sanity or giving Neb space for repentance in the first place.
 
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
Amen!

Yes Indeed, God wants 10000000000000000% of ALL the Glory, but He wants it GIVEN/OFFERED/DESIRED by His Creation to Give Him His Deserved Glory!

He wants to be Praised and Worshipped!

That comes only from those WILLING to Praise and Worship God.
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The natural man (1 Cor 2:14) has no willingness to worship anything of a spiritual nature, that he does not understand, and thinks spiritual things are foolishness.
 
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Mem said:
Many people glorified Hitler as their idea of sovereign , just, and I daresay maybe even holy even though, generally, the effects were considered detrimental. On the other hand, every knee will bow and give glory to God when He judges the wicked, as He sees fit to judge them and not according to any man's counsel in how He should carry it out.
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Hitler isn't God. The more Hitler was revealed, the less like God he seemed.
 
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Cameron143 said:
Hitler isn't God. The more Hitler was revealed, the less like God he seemed.
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Yet, many people had a very wrong idea of what they thought was 'right' about him.
 
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Mem said:
No one can argue with God for either striking Neb with madness or restoring him to sanity or giving Neb space for repentance in the first place.
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That is right, God has power over mankind to accomplish his will, and none can stay his hand. If it was his will to save all mankind, then all of mankind will be in heaven, and the scriptures will not support that.
 
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Happy_hobnob said:
How does Moses make tea?
He brews.
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A little anti-Semitic on your part and that’s not surprising. Now back to basics. We’re told to always be prepared to give an account regarding our faith but you chose to avoid doing so. Strong work.
 
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Hitler used furnaces to dispose of what he judged to be human waste. Did he get the idea from the Lake of fire? Idk, maybe. Yet, he was seriously mistaken to think that he was anything near to righteous.
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Sure. But I'm talking about the glory of God, not men.
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God's righteousness is all encompassing of the definition of righteousness and not just 'because He said so,' as was the only reason for those such as Hitler.

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That is right, God has power over mankind to accomplish his will, and none can stay his hand. If it was his will to save all mankind, then all of mankind will be in heaven, and the scriptures will not support that.
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His will, desire, is that all men come repentance and to the knowledge of the truth, but His judgment, decree, is that those who believe on the Lord Jesus Christ will be saved.
 
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HeIsHere said:
It is not the TRUTH.

That anyone could believe this baffles me beyond measure, it is the complete antithesis of scripture and the character of Jesus, who is God revealed.

I wonder did Jesus love those He did not choose for salvation?
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No, He only loves the world of believers, (John 3:16), and none of us believed him, (Psalms 53:2) until he quickened us to the new spiritual life (Eph 2:1)
 
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Mem said:
Hitler used furnaces to dispose of what he judged to be human waste. Did he get the idea from the Lake of fire? Idk, maybe. Yet, he was seriously mistaken to think that he was anything near to righteous.


God's righteousness is all encompassing of the definition of righteousness and not just 'because He said so,' as was the only reason for those such as Hitler.



His will, desire, is that all men come repentance and to the knowledge of the truth, but His judgment, decree, is that those who believe on the Lord Jesus Christ will be saved.
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I lost your argument 2 posts back. Think of how you would tell a kindergartener and dumb it down just a little more.
 
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Mem said:
If God grants mercy that brings Him glory, but would He be righteous in granting everyone mercy? I figure it must not be since He doesn't do that. What makes Him righteous in granting you mercy and withholding it from another?
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He could have withelt it from all of mankind, and still have been righteous
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
God's mercy is for the repentant. Those who deliberately harden their hearts -- like Pharaoh when dealing with the Israelites -- bring judgment upon themselves. God is both merciful and just, He is both loving and wrathful.

He is also very longsuffering, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. It all depends on whether sinners humble themselves and repent. Study the book of Jonah.
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The only people that humble themselves and repent are those that have been born again (Eph 2:1).
 
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ForestGreenCook said:
That is right, God has power over mankind to accomplish his will, and none can stay his hand. If it was his will to save all mankind, then all of mankind will be in heaven, and the scriptures will not support that.
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1 Tim 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

2 Pet 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Eze 33:11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
 
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