Omitted verses.

[Raggedcloth]

Hello. I came across some information that said some verses were left out of the Bible in the book of John, by an unknown "they" as in "they" left these verses out. I don't want to quote those supposed verses here, at least right now, but I do want to ask: how would someone go about researching something like that? (I have very inferior internet access except at the local library.)

 

[JaumeJ]

If your library Internet service has the option of a search engine, use it to find missing writings of the Book of John,

 

[Nehemiah6]

Hello. I came across some information that said some verses were left out of the Bible in the book of John, by an unknown "they" as in "they" left these verses out. I don't want to quote those supposed verses here, at least right now, but I do want to ask: how would someone go about researching something like that? (I have very inferior internet access except at the local library.)

Enter "the Johannine Comma" into your search engine and see the results. I believe that is what you are referring to.

Here are some links SUPPORTING this passage as authentic. And the Holy Spirit Himself assures us that it is authentic.

https://av1611.com/kjbp/faq/holland_1jo5_7.html

https://www.kjvtoday.com/johannine-comma-1-john-57/

 

[Komentaja]

The church fathers have quoted these verses before the KJV or the Textus Receptus texts even existed. They are authentic.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Hello. I came across some information that said some verses were left out of the Bible in the book of John, by an unknown "they" as in "they" left these verses out. I don't want to quote those supposed verses here, at least right now, but I do want to ask: how would someone go about researching something like that? (I have very inferior internet access except at the local library.)

Welcome to the forum Raggedcloth.
You know something. You bring up a pet peeve of mine. My favorite Bibles are the ones without the interruptors. Those are the common tators that try to sound intelligent by repeating the mantra like a Hindu guru saying, "These verses were not in the oldest and best manuscripts....oooohhhmmmm."

😄

People are welcome to read and preach from whatever they want.
A retired pastor on here will likely want to debate me on this. There's a reason or three that I have decided to use just one translation now and avoid the study Bibles with notes that interrupt my reading. You mentioned one of those reasons. I think the following link will answer your question in detail.

Why Verses Are Left Out of Some Bibles


Have a blessed day.
☕🙂📖

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

The church fathers have quoted these verses before the KJV or the Textus Receptus texts even existed. They are authentic.

Yes, that's right.
Here's an example Komentaja.

commonly maligned verse

 

[Komentaja]

Yes, that's right.
Here's an example Komentaja.

commonly maligned verse

The people who are cutting up the Bible are gonna be in serious trouble one day. The warning at the end of the book of Revelation to someone who adds or takes away is nothing to play with. I don't know if that warning is for all scripture or just that particular book.

Has any verses in Revelation been tampered with in some translations?

 

[John146]

The people who are cutting up the Bible are gonna be in serious trouble one day. The warning at the end of the book of Revelation to someone who adds or takes away is nothing to play with. I don't know if that warning is for all scripture or just that particular book.

Has any verses in Revelation been tampered with in some translations?

Thus, all the new versions are corrupt.

 

[GRACE_ambassador]

Hello. I came across some information that said some verses were left out of the Bible in the book of John, by an unknown "they" as in "they" left these verses out.

Precious friend, A Very Warm Welcome To Chat.
I will pray that you find the answer for which you are searching.

Please Be Very RICHLY Encouraged And Edified In
The LORD JESUS CHRIST, And His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided (+ I and II).

Grace, Peace, And JOY!… + RICH Blessings

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

The people who are cutting up the Bible are gonna be in serious trouble one day. The warning at the end of the book of Revelation to someone who adds or takes away is nothing to play with. I don't know if that warning is for all scripture or just that particular book.

Has any verses in Revelation been tampered with in some translations?

I don't think a believer would cut up the Bible. Yes, I do think those who do will be in serious trouble.
That was the last written Revelation to mankind upon the Earth. The cults add books all of the time that contradict the Bible, just as Satan did in the garden of Eden. He's the father of lies and has the nerve to call our Lord a liar. There are other Books in Heaven that God has for the purpose of judgement; however we have no new inspired revelations given here.

. "And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."
Revelation 20

Those who choose to obtain salvation by their own works will remain spiritually dead and will be judged according to their works.
They will all come up short. Those who add to the Word or remove from it, will suffer this judgement according to those verses you referenced at the end of John's Revelation.

Only those who trust the Holy One Who was judged already for all sins have no judgement to look forward to.

"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast."
Ephesians 2

There were more classes on various subjects in the colleges than I could ever remember.. Those mean nothing compared to the simple class that these young people took one day.
Heaven or Hell?

 

[soberxp]

But you can still read the Catholic version of the Bible, which seems to have a few more chapters than the one we use.
But it seems that Peter is not called Peter in that version of the Bible.

 

[Dino246]

Hello. I came across some information that said some verses were left out of the Bible in the book of John, by an unknown "they" as in "they" left these verses out. I don't want to quote those supposed verses here, at least right now, but I do want to ask: how would someone go about researching something like that? (I have very inferior internet access except at the local library.)

Some things to consider...

In order to assert rightly that a verse has been "omitted", one must establish that it belonged originally. Otherwise, it has been added, which is just as great an error.

Many people (some who have already commented) are convinced that the KJV is the standard against which all other versions are to be judged. That view is merely an opinion with no objective truth to it.

There has been a massive amount of work done both on discovering manuscripts and on examining/comparing them in the last couple of centuries. This knowledge should not be taken lightly, and should not be characterized on the basis of one or two individuals.

It is challenging to determine which verses actually belong in Scripture. You might, as most people do, defer to the expertise of those who study these things, and focus your attention on living for God rather than fussing over minutiae that does little to affect your daily walk with the Lord or benefit the world.

 

[John146]

In order to assert rightly that a verse has been "omitted", one must establish that it belonged originally. Otherwise, it has been added, which is just as great an error.

According to your view then, either the KJV is in great error or the new versions are in great error. At least we're getting somewhere.

 

[soberxp]

According to your view then, either the KJV is in great error or the new versions are in great error. At least we're getting somewhere.

To be honest,, much of the Kjv does not quite mean the same thing as the Chinese version

Genesis 1:28
God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and rule it; To rule over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the earth."【here is the Chinese Bible version】

KJV 1:28
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

 

[soberxp]

To be honest,, much of the Kjv does not quite mean the same thing as the Chinese version

Genesis 1:28
God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and rule it; To rule over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the earth."【here is the Chinese Bible version】

KJV 1:28
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

management the earth not subdue the earth.

 

[John146]

To be honest,, much of the Kjv does not quite mean the same thing as the Chinese version

Genesis 1:28
God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and rule it; To rule over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the earth."【here is the Chinese Bible version】

KJV 1:28
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

The KJV defines itself. In the same verse we get the meaning of subdue…to have dominion over.

 

[soberxp]

The KJV defines itself. In the same verse we get the meaning of subdue…to have dominion over.

The Earthquakes, volcanoes, tsunamis can never be subdue by man.

But it is okay to manage the earth, not to turn it into as Mars.

 

[soberxp]

The Earthquakes, volcanoes, tsunamis can never be subdue by man.

But it is okay to manage the earth, not to turn it into as Mars.

Have I forgotten faith? Strong faith can conquer these disasters, but human beings do not have strong faith.

The Chinese old saying always say that disasters are caused by man-made disasters.

 

[Edify]

Many people (some who have already commented) are convinced that the KJV is the standard against which all other versions are to be judged. That view is merely an opinion with no objective truth to it.

Aaaamen!

 

[Dino246]

According to your view then, either the KJV is in great error or the new versions are in great error. At least we're getting somewhere.

According to your fallacious reasoning, perhaps. In the real world, I have no need to make such categorizations.