Salvation is for the Whole World

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Magenta said:
I do not believe Jesus committed blasphemy as you claimed. That makes it
a false accusation, regardless of what whoever else believed 2,000 years ago.

Scripture attests to that fact that Jesus is God, and further says that those
who do not believe the record of Scripture about Jesus, call God a liar.

1-John5-10s.png

1 John 5:10
Click to expand...

The pharisees accused Jesus of blasphemy by him saying he was Gods son. He never claimed to be God as they said. It was the pharisees in error.
 
The_Watchers_2017 said:
I use what Scholars would conclude is the oldest known copy to exist.

Also, I believe anyone living today is only guessing. No One Alive today can factually with all certainty say with absolute knowledge that is undoubtedly the TRUTH.

That is why I Trust the core information we have on record from our very own Church Fathers.

In fact, the personal Disciples to the Apostle John have added many clues to what the Scriptures are saying.

I would NEVER Trust any viewpoint coming from a Lexicon.
Click to expand...

All bibles are translated from the Lexicons for the NT.
 
The_Watchers_2017 said:
Jerome translated the Hebrew and Greek to correct the versions to establish a truer translation of the Old Testament.

He did the same with the Koine Greek and even verified there was an original Gospel of Matthew written in Aramaic/Hebrew.

He knew what he was doing and translated them properly and correctly.
Click to expand...

Did he put Gods personal name into the 7000 spots? Every supposed scholar on earth knows100% Gods name belongs in those spots. They leave it out for a reason.
 
aa31000 said:
The pharisees accused Jesus of blasphemy by him saying he was Gods son. He never claimed to be God as they said. It was the pharisees in error.
Click to expand...

God is the Saviour; Jesus Christ is the Saviour. Jesus Christ is God.

[Tit 3:4 KJV]
4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
[2Pe 3:18 KJV] 18 But grow in grace, and [in] the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him [be] glory both now and for ever. Amen.

[Jde 1:25 KJV] 25 To the only wise God our Saviour, [be] glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

[Heb 1:8 KJV] 8 But unto the Son [he saith], Thy throne, O God, [is] for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness [is] the sceptre of thy kingdom.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2ndTimeIsTheCharm
aa31000 said:
Did he put Gods personal name into the 7000 spots? Every supposed scholar on earth knows100% Gods name belongs in those spots. They leave it out for a reason.
Click to expand...
My troublesome Friend,

I use only the Tanakh, the true Old Testament written by the actual Prophets and Kings and Scribes of Ancient Israel.

For the New Testament I use the most truest and reliable Greek.

So I am not reading someone who put the Bible together Old and New Testament, I go to the most secure source where viewpoint of the LITERAL portion of the Bible ((was)) being Viewed from.
 
rogerg said:
God is the Saviour; Jesus Christ is the Saviour. Jesus Christ is God.

[Tit 3:4 KJV]
4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
[2Pe 3:18 KJV] 18 But grow in grace, and [in] the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him [be] glory both now and for ever. Amen.

[Jde 1:25 KJV] 25 To the only wise God our Saviour, [be] glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

[Heb 1:8 KJV] 8 But unto the Son [he saith], Thy throne, O God, [is] for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness [is] the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Click to expand...

Jesus is Gods image-- An image is never the real thing.
 
The_Watchers_2017 said:
My troublesome Friend,

I use only the Tanakh, the true Old Testament written by the actual Prophets and Kings and Scribes of Ancient Israel.

For the New Testament I use the most truest and reliable Greek.

So I am not reading someone who put the Bible together Old and New Testament, I go to the most secure source where viewpoint of the LITERAL portion of the Bible ((was)) being Viewed from.
Click to expand...

Catholicism works is all that remained after the originals were gone for the NT.
 
aa31000 said:
Jesus is Gods image-- An image is never the real thing.
Click to expand...

Only God is in the image of God. He emptied Himself of His glory and took upon Himself, the form of a servant, nevertheless,
He never ceased to be God.

[Phl 2:6 KJV] 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

[Heb 1:8 KJV] 8 But unto the Son [he saith], Thy throne, O God, [is] for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness [is] the sceptre of thy kingdom.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2ndTimeIsTheCharm
aa31000 said:
Jesus is Gods image-- An image is never the real thing.
Click to expand...

[Mat 1:23 KJV] 23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
 
rogerg said:
Only God is in the image of God. He emptied Himself of His glory and took upon Himself, the form of a servant, nevertheless,
He never ceased to be God.

[Phl 2:6 KJV] 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

[Heb 1:8 KJV] 8 But unto the Son [he saith], Thy throne, O God, [is] for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness [is] the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Click to expand...

Your Phi 2:6 is erred. Heb 1:8 as well-1:4 proves that--If God didnt give Jesus a name above the angels its saying he is equal to them. Psalm 45:7-Jesus has a God-partners= Angels. Your translations teach 2 different Gods, 2 different truths because of errors like i pointed out. Errors translated in by the religion that came out of Rome to fit false council teachings.

If you stand in front of a mirror with a gun-you see an image-If you shoot that image in the mirror, it proves an image is never the real thing.
 
rogerg said:
[Mat 1:23 KJV] 23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Click to expand...

When was Jesus named Emmanuel? If Jesus were God then why did God have to do all the powerful works through him? Acts 2:22-1Cor 8:5-6
 
aa31000 said:
When was Jesus named Emmanuel? If Jesus were God then why did God have to do all the powerful works through him? Acts 2:22-1Cor 8:5-6
Click to expand...


Emmanuel was fulfillment of the book of Isiah where He was prophesized as Immanuel who was to be born the son of a virgin.
The son of a virgin? Sounds like Jesus to me.

Because Jesus gave up His glory to take on the form of a servant, that's why. Nevertheless, He remained God.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2ndTimeIsTheCharm
aa31000 said:
When was Jesus named Emmanuel? If Jesus were God then why did God have to do all the powerful works through him? Acts 2:22-1Cor 8:5-6
Click to expand...
It's a fair question. Would you mind answering a few questions of mine? I think they will help you understand.
 
aa31000 said:
Jesus is Gods image-- An image is never the real thing.
Click to expand...
Are you willfully blind or willfully ignorant? Christ is BOTH the express image of God the Father (Hebrews 1:3) and also God Himself -- God the Son (Hebrews 1:8,9). So that is "the real thing". However, if you have deliberately chosen to be blind to the truth, you will remained blinded. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by Him; and without Him was not any thing made that was made. (John 1:1-3)
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2ndTimeIsTheCharm, The_Watchers_2017 and rogerg
Nehemiah6 said:
Are you willfully blind or willfully ignorant? Christ is BOTH the express image of God the Father (Hebrews 1:3) and also God Himself -- God the Son (Hebrews 1:8,9). So that is "the real thing". However, if you have deliberately chosen to be blind to the truth, you will remained blinded. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by Him; and without Him was not any thing made that was made. (John 1:1-3)
Click to expand...

The word is not called-God in the Greek Lexicons. He is called-god.
 
aa31000 said:
The word is not called-God in the Greek Lexicons. He is called-god.
Click to expand...
This is what a Jehovah's Witness would claim. But it is a FALSE CLAIM. The whole Christian world believes that the Word was GOD (THEOS). So there you have it folks. Another cultist to promote the Watchtower nonsense.
 
Cameron143 said:
Awesome. I have a few but would like to go through them one at a time.
What is the final estate of an unrepentant man?
Click to expand...

So far repentant or unrepentant- all not here anymore paid the wages of sin= death. One is aquitted of all sin at death- Romans 6:7-- God would not hold those past sins against them at the resurrection.
 
Nehemiah6 said:
This is what a Jehovah's Witness would claim. But it is a FALSE CLAIM. The whole Christian world believes that the Word was GOD (THEOS). So there you have it folks. Another cultist to promote the Watchtower nonsense.
Click to expand...

A.Kneeland a Greek scholar used the Greek Lexicons in 1822 to translate the NT. He compared the Greek to English side by side to prove to the world a god was correct. 19 other translations in history had a god, 1 had was godlike, 3 had was divine--all rejected by trinity clergys because that 1 fact proves they are false religion.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top Bottom
Back