CJ Lovik with another prophecy backing up his 2030 return of Jesus
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Yes. Watermark and Oyster won't be there to clue them in on the deception. He will initially make a peace treaty (which he will later break).
I agree that the peace treaty happens at the beginning, but I think this verse might refer to more than that. It gets worse as the trib progresses.
1 Thessalonians 5:3
“For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.”
ok, I do not think you understood my question.
there is an event in which the future prince will be revealed. There is an event in which there is no doubt, this is him.
What event is that? I do not see an event in your response that says, Ok, this is him, he is revealed. Because we were told when this happens. That is him..
This is the peace before the great trib.
The event which warns the world of this is the AOD.
It could still be mid trib. Because there is really no event which leads us to know the 70th week has started..
I am still pre-trib. Just stating that it is not set in stone.
Dan 9:27 "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week"
The "confirming the covenant" sounds like a peace treaty or agreement.
And "confirm" sounds like the treaty has already been in place with multiple countries already (which the Abrahamic Accords has). Countries already signed w/ Israel are the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Sudan, Morocco and Qatar.
Just last week, Netanyahu said "I think we can have a quantum leap if the Saudi leadership decides that it wants to be formally part of this. Informally, they're part of this." That sounds like the talks of signing the peace treaty have already been underway. Uniting against Iran will be a huge motivator for both countries.
And I am just speculating right now that Mohammed bin Salman could be the AC...we don't know yet and he won't be revealed until after we are raptured (if the pre-trib rapture theory is correct). If we get raptured mid or post trib, we'll defintiely know who he is.
I understand when you say it SOUNDS LIKE. I always believed that also
But I do not see the word “peace” so it is just that. A thought or Idea that MAY be true
As for what you are saying. The prince is from the Roman empire. He is of the people who destroyed the city and sanctuary, which was Titus and his armies..
so again, when I look at prophecy. I think we should look at minute details.. Many people have made peace treaties with Israel since 1948,
remember, he will confirm a covenant
who is he?
the prince who is to come. From the people who destroyed jerusalem and the temple. Ie rome, or what is modern day europe. He will come from a 10 king confederation where he assumes control by overcoming three of the ten kings..
Who is the many? We are not told
What is the covenant? We are not told.
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An interesting video to watch (pre trib rapture) is called Before the Wrath. You have to pay to watch it (I think about $20) It is on Vimeo. Once you purchase it you can watch it as many times as you like. It is worth a watch. It compares the rapture to a Jewish wedding.
I have heard of this, I read it somewhere, I can not remember where
Perry Stone, Pastor from Tennessee, does a teaching on it on YT, I wonder if they are similar?
Ive seen it or one similar, it was fascinating!
Absolutely yes, the LXX should always be used for long-span genealogy/chronology purposes (the LXX rightly adds something like 1800 years total from Adam). But it makes no difference to the topic of the time of the SC.
The LXX is critical when dating back to the birth of Abraham (2322BC) and the date of the Exodus (1603BC). The commonly quoted dates given in most bibles are far too early.
Egypt and Exodus (barrysetterfield.org)
Ancient Chronology (barrysetterfield.org)
It is also the correct Biblical analogy. Used with unerring deliberate frequency.
The Bride is harpazo'ed before the tribulation ever begins. She enjoys her intimate 7 year honeymoon with her Husband in the Father's house. THEN after 7 year are finished, the already married Groom and Bride return to the earth for the WEDDING SUPPER/FEAST.
This supper goes on and on for an inseminate period of time. Maybe forever practically.
Yes there is. As TDW has elaborated on in great detail. Over and over again. Stated 3X in 2Thes 2 alone.
1) 2Th 2:3
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come "THE (ho) DEPARTURE (apostasia)" first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2) 2Th 2:6
And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
3) 2Th 2:7
For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
2Th 2:8
And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
