Do you observe the Sabbath?

[TMS]

You don't need an excuse to sin, your sin never stops.

I believe in the grace of Jesus, i believe the grace of Jesus is more powerful then sin. And By grace i can be freed from the bondage of sin.

Rom 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Rom 6:22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.


God freed Israel from the bondage of Egypt, Can He free you from the bondage of sin?

I have faith that He can.

Rom 6: 1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

 

[ketura]

Oh, @ItsAdventageous .....

Get over your denominal crutches and live by God's word.

Ellen G White was buried and is STILL buried.

Jesus Christ has been resurrected and sits @ the right hand of the Father!

 

[Inquisitor]

Yes the saved pass from judgement because of Christ, the saved are judged as perfect. But how are we judged as saved or not saved?

As per the quotations Christian are not judged. Unbelievers are already judged, because they did not believe in Jesus.

You say Christians are not judged?

Incorrect, John said Christians are not judged.

It is easy to say your a christian. It is easy to believe in Jesus, it is easy to go to church and say your saved by grace.

No, it is not easy to confess your faith in Jesus. As in Paul's day, it is a stupid thing to do, to believe in Jesus.

1 Corinthian 1:18
For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

The 10 vergins all believed Jesus was coming, but only 5 were saved.

Those five that fell asleep had lost their faith, that is what that parable means. The five that were saved continued to believe in Jesus.

The next quotation is one of my quotations.

Mat 7: 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

That is the outcome of faith plus works. The will of the Father is to believe in the Son.

Would you display your works before the Father and say look at my works?

By their fruits...he that doeth the will of my father, not doing iniquity.

You cannot bear the fruit without receiving the Holy Spirit. The only way to receive the Holy Spirit is by believing in Jesus. We are back at square one.

You say it is an easy one, but you miss the verses around it.

I have not missed any verses in the context.

The justified and saved can't be judged because Jesus has covered them with his righteousness..

Correct.

But how does God determine who is saved? Faith without works is dead, even the devil believes, and we are told....

As the scripture declares, anyone who calls on the name of Jesus will be saved.

Rom 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

Do not judge others and you will not be judged.

Luke 6:37
Do not judge, and you will not be judged; and do not condemn, and you will not be condemned; pardon, and you will be pardoned.

2Co 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

Jas 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

Judged by the law of liberty, freedom, the law of Christ, the royal law, etc.

The law of unconditional love of others, that's the judgement, God is love.

 

[Inquisitor]

I believe in the grace of Jesus, i believe the grace of Jesus is more powerful then sin. And By grace i can be freed from the bondage of sin.

Rom 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Rom 6:22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.


God freed Israel from the bondage of Egypt, Can He free you from the bondage of sin?

I have faith that He can.

Rom 6: 1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

I agree, we are dead to sin, crucified with Christ.

Jesus took care of the law of sin and death. Fear no more.

 

[ItsAdventageous]

Oh, @ItsAdventageous .....

Get over your denominal crutches and live by God's word.

Ellen G White was buried and is STILL buried.

Jesus Christ has been resurrected and sits @ the right hand of the Father!

I do live by God's word, the KJB, which is the preserved words of God in English.

Why do people keep mentioning sister White, as though I cited her, or even cited her in front of (before) scripture? It is my experience that others, who cannot refute the scripture I have cited, that have to bring up a non-sequitur, or red-herring, such as sister White, as if she is somehow my Saviour? (hint, she isn't, and all that which she wrote, is subject to the Bible (KJB), as it is written in the Bible and in her own written materials).

I became a Seventh-day Adventist because of what is written in the Bible. I didn't start there. Neither did I start with the KJB either. My first Bible was a St. Joseph's NAB from my catholic upbringing.

Yes, sister White is buried (this is not news to me). She will remain buried until her respective special resurrection just before Jesus returns, along with others.

Yes, Jesus Christ is indeed, resurrected and not merely seated at the right hand of God the Father in the heavenlies, but is about to complete the final work of the great high priest in the Heavenly Most holy, and return without sin unto salvation.

So, I stand upon God's "law and testimony" (Isaiah 8:20), not crutches.

 

[ItsAdventageous]

The law of unconditional love of others, that's the judgement, God is love.

It's the details that matter, of course.

Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.​

Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:​

Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:​

Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.​

So, is it love to God to honour my Heavenly Father in that which He gave for rest?

So, is it love to my fellow neighbour (near brother of mankind) to allow them to also rest in the same, or should I keep working them at all times?

 

[ItsAdventageous]

The law of unconditional love of others, that's the judgement, God is love.

Where have I hard that before? Oh... yeah!

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Deu 6:5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.​

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Lev 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.​

Lev 19:18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.​

One would almost think that was 'only for the "Israelites"' ... but they would be wrong there too.

 

[ketura]

Yes, sister White is buried (this is not news to me). She will remain buried until her respective SPECIAL RESURRECTION just before Jesus returns, along with others.

@ItsAdventageous .......WHAT DOES THE BOLDED MEAN PLEASE?

 

[ItsAdventageous]

Yes, sister White is buried (this is not news to me). She will remain buried until her respective SPECIAL RESURRECTION just before Jesus returns, along with others.

@ItsAdventageous .......WHAT DOES THE BOLDED MEAN PLEASE?

There are 3 Resurrections coming:

[13.] Special Harvest - Daniel 12:2,12; Matthew 26:64; Mark 14:62; Revelation 1:7, 14:13, &c; to see Jesus coming in the clouds of Glory, some righteous who died after the specific time prophecy under the specific message it brought, and some unrighteous, whom Jesus identified in scripture. Sister White will be in this resurrection, with many others who died faithfully under the third Angel's message post 1844. Texts provided.​

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[14.] The Righteous (Resurrection unto Eternal Life at the start of the 1,000 Years of Revelation 20:1-7; Isaiah 24:22) - 1 Samuel 2:6; Job 14:12-14, 19:26; Hosea 13:14; Matthew 22:31; Mark 12:18,23,25; Luke 14:14, 20:35,36; John 5:29a, 6:25,28,29,39,40,44,54, 11:24,25; Acts 4:2, 17:31,32, 23:6, 24:15a,21; Romans 6:5,8, 8:11; 1 Corinthians 15:12,13,16,20,21,23,29,32,35,42,43,52-55; Philippians 3:10,11; Colossians 3:3; 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17; 2 Timothy 2:18, 4:1; Hebrews 6:2, 11:35; Revelation 20:5b,6; -- All the Holy "Clouds" of Angels, the "reapers", with Him -- Psalms 68:17, 104:3; Isaiah 66:15; Matthew 13:39,49, 16:27, 24:30, 25:31,51, 26:64; Mark 8:38, 13:27; Luke 9:26, 21:27; Acts 1:9-11; 1 Thessalonians 3:13, 4:16-17; Hebrews 1:7; Revelation 1:7, 12:7​

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[15.] The Wicked (finally impenitent; Resurrection unto Damnation, 2nd Death at the close of the 1,000 Years of Revelation 20:1-7; Isaiah 24:22) - John 5:29b; Acts 17:31, 24:15b; Revelation 20:5a; (2nd Death; Genesis 2:17; Job 20:26,29, 31:2-3; Psalms 7:9, 9:17, 11:6, 21:9, 37:10, 37:20, 37:28,38, 68:2, 69:28, 75:8,10, 92:7,9, 104:35, 106:18, 112:10, 145:20; Proverbs 2:22, 10:25,28,30, 12:7, 13:9, 14:11, 24:20; Ezekiel 18:4, 18:20; Isaiah 13:9, 25:8, 66:17,24; Nahum 1:10; Obadiah 1:16; Zephaniah 1:2-3; Malachi 4:1; Matthew 10:28; John 3:16; Romans 6:23; Hebrews 6:8; James 1:15; 2 Peter 3:10; Jude 1:12; Revelation 2:1; 7:17, 20:6,9,14, 21:4,8)​

Good question. Thank you for asking.

 

[ketura]

There are 3 Resurrections coming:

[13.] Special Harvest - Daniel 12:2,12; Matthew 26:64; Mark 14:62; Revelation 1:7, 14:13, &c; to see Jesus coming in the clouds of Glory, some righteous who died after the specific time prophecy under the specific message it brought, and some unrighteous, whom Jesus identified in scripture. Sister White will be in this resurrection, with many others who died faithfully under the third Angel's message post 1844. Texts provided.​

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[14.] The Righteous (Resurrection unto Eternal Life at the start of the 1,000 Years of Revelation 20:1-7; Isaiah 24:22) - 1 Samuel 2:6; Job 14:12-14, 19:26; Hosea 13:14; Matthew 22:31; Mark 12:18,23,25; Luke 14:14, 20:35,36; John 5:29a, 6:25,28,29,39,40,44,54, 11:24,25; Acts 4:2, 17:31,32, 23:6, 24:15a,21; Romans 6:5,8, 8:11; 1 Corinthians 15:12,13,16,20,21,23,29,32,35,42,43,52-55; Philippians 3:10,11; Colossians 3:3; 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17; 2 Timothy 2:18, 4:1; Hebrews 6:2, 11:35; Revelation 20:5b,6; -- All the Holy "Clouds" of Angels, the "reapers", with Him -- Psalms 68:17, 104:3; Isaiah 66:15; Matthew 13:39,49, 16:27, 24:30, 25:31,51, 26:64; Mark 8:38, 13:27; Luke 9:26, 21:27; Acts 1:9-11; 1 Thessalonians 3:13, 4:16-17; Hebrews 1:7; Revelation 1:7, 12:7​

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[15.] The Wicked (finally impenitent; Resurrection unto Damnation, 2nd Death at the close of the 1,000 Years of Revelation 20:1-7; Isaiah 24:22) - John 5:29b; Acts 17:31, 24:15b; Revelation 20:5a; (2nd Death; Genesis 2:17; Job 20:26,29, 31:2-3; Psalms 7:9, 9:17, 11:6, 21:9, 37:10, 37:20, 37:28,38, 68:2, 69:28, 75:8,10, 92:7,9, 104:35, 106:18, 112:10, 145:20; Proverbs 2:22, 10:25,28,30, 12:7, 13:9, 14:11, 24:20; Ezekiel 18:4, 18:20; Isaiah 13:9, 25:8, 66:17,24; Nahum 1:10; Obadiah 1:16; Zephaniah 1:2-3; Malachi 4:1; Matthew 10:28; John 3:16; Romans 6:23; Hebrews 6:8; James 1:15; 2 Peter 3:10; Jude 1:12; Revelation 2:1; 7:17, 20:6,9,14, 21:4,8)​

Good question. Thank you
for asking.

Ywc.

Okkkkkk, I'll leave you to your own then.........

 

[ItsAdventageous]

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PS, be glad to answer any other question you have later, and we can spend some time together as you desire. I am heading to bed for now, it's late, about 12:30 AM here. I am also on facebook, etc if any want to speak with me in person. https://www.facebook.com/ItsAdventageous/

 

[mailmandan]

Oh, @ItsAdventageous .....

Get over your denominal crutches and live by God's word.

Ellen G White was buried and is STILL buried.

Jesus Christ has been resurrected and sits @ the right hand of the Father!

Straight Talk on the Dangers of Seventh-day Adventism

https://nonsda.org/study12.shtml

Seventh-day Adventists have institutionalized deception.

 

[ketura]

Straight Talk on the Dangers of Seventh-day Adventism

https://nonsda.org/study12.shtml









What do you mean here please.

****Seventh-day Adventists have institutionalized deception. *****

Don't ALL , if you will faiths, churches, denominations have some deceptions. The institutionalized is where I'm stuck @.
Thank you.

 

[Dino246]

W
Was there spiritual darkness in anything that God made?
Was there any sin in the creation?
Was there any need for a saviour or the plan of salvation?

NO..

Satan was rebelling in heaven but that our world was perfect and very good.

The sabbath was part of the perfect world. The sabbath was made holy before sin.

How can it be something that was added because of sin?

Did God say “Perfect”? No. Don’t twist the words of God.

 

[Dino246]

Am i a legalist because i believe the 4th commandment is Gods will?
Joh 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

Jesus said the above.

Am i a legalist if i say...."I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge; because I seek not mine own will, but to do the will of the Father."?

Am i a legalist if God is master of my life?
If i say not my will but thy will be done Lord, am i a legalist?

You are a legalist because you claim to follow the law and imply (at least) that others are wrong for not doing so.

 

[mailmandan]

Read the article. It explains it.

 

[ketura]

Read the article. It explains it.

Ok ty

 

[mailmandan]

Ok ty

Let me know what you think of the article. It's very disturbing to me and this article below from that same site is also very disturbing!

Seventh-day Adventists teach that the near the end of time the "mark of the best" of Revelation 14 will be placed upon those who worship on Sunday instead of Saturday.

https://nonsda.org/study8.shtml

Brother Anderson was a member of the SDA church for 33 years before discovering the truth from scripture for himself.

https://nonsda.org/index.html

 

[gb9]

Yes, sister White is buried (this is not news to me). She will remain buried until her respective SPECIAL RESURRECTION just before Jesus returns, along with others.

@ItsAdventageous .......WHAT DOES THE BOLDED MEAN PLEASE?

ellen white is false prophet and will not be going up....

 

[Dino246]

Read the article. It explains it.

Wow. Some eye-opening stuff in there (pun intended).