Talk to someone else, I'm done. I don't waste my time with people who are just here to preach; especially when they don't know what they're talking about.
Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked
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Talk to someone else, I'm done. I don't waste my time with people who are just here to preach; especially when they don't know what they're talking about.
Then there is no salvation that can be lost
it does not matter if i am right or wrong what matters is what God says
You certainty do need the knowledge of the truth of the gospel message this much is true. What you ALSO need is to agree to it from the heart, and make a commitment to WALK in this newly found truth.
We've already been through all of this. Knowledge doesn't save anyone but the verse says that it was by their knowledge that they escaped. If it was by their knowledge, then it wasn't by salvation - otherwise salvation isn't salvation.
Many people have knowledge of salvation and of Christ and may even have superficial, intellectual faith for a while but
that doesn't mean they were ever saved.
Go back and look at the word eternal again.
My friend I know what you have been through that wounded and broken damaged enotional and spiritual state is absolute worst state to be in you just cant shrug it off and it is a a poison you cant seem to get a cure for. In the past three years I dealt with this I had no one in my life to help or lift me up and life just did not hold back I have been through so much clinging to God just barely able to connect to him I tried to kill myself three times im the last three years each time he would not let me die it was just recently I attempted to take 70 units of insulin this is fast acting stuff and my diebetes was due to radiation from chemo therapy and it all destroying my body so it works differently than normal diebetes it is more unpredictable and it gets low or high much easier than normal diebetes.
Ten units alone should have done something but 70? I am not supposed to be alive but God by his grace held my life in his hands. I was in need of help I couldn't strive on my own had I had a true brother or sister in my kife I could have not just recovered but flourished
This is the sad truth many fall in faith because they don't have someone to lift them up when they fall often times it's not the person who is falling in faith fault it's Christians who know such people exist yet do nothing about it.
This isn't something we can do alone stregnth is in numbers and in this war we battle especially as believers it is a war only one with each other.
Serving Christ as I have come to find in all my turmoil is my saving grace my eyes were fixed on him once I attempted death for the third time this was when he took me to the other side and showed me the kingdom he showed me who we are in him and how we are to be with him I mean ii'm talking about looking hell in the face and saying your under my feet and excuse my language but a total bad ass in Christ like hell trembles when they see because you may be the one standing before the demons of hell but they see Jesus staring them down and crap themselves.
When you see who you are in Christ and understand the position you hold it changes you you no longer just going to sit by as the average believer your for the kingdom now it quickens you to move the joy of serving Christ and the mission of the kingdom brings you to hieghts with him that seem like fantasy you dare to reach levels with him that seem insane you look at the imposible and are like Jesus is going to stomp that down in minus three two one...
I was dead bow im alive I was blind now I can see I was deaf now I can hear and now I live for the kingdom to bring the kingdom here if I can plant even one seed for the kingdom everyday then that day was worth living
Salvation cannot be lost but a person can walk away.
No one forces us to keep Gifts.
God isn't forcing anyone to keep His Gift.
They could not have knowledge until they were saved.
You don't even practice what you preach.
Never said it wasn't a gift bro. I also never said that it was a work of the flesh. You can easily infer from my post that it was a positive response begotten of faith. This faith being a gift from God, along with salvation.
Yes. Just like Esau and as all of the unsaved are.
[Rom 9:11 KJV] 11 (For [the children] being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth
[Rom 9:13 KJV] 13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
[Psa 58:3 KJV] 3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.
Here is my confusion
You said
You say we can return through repentance but then say we cannot.
"I am saying that God has a limit. When someone reaches that limit, there's no more hope."
When God in Micah said Jacob I loved bu esau he hated. He spoke of the nations. Israel he loved, but EDOM he hated
He did not hate a kid who was not even born yet.. Don;t get all calvinistic on me
Jacob and Esau were born Same Time but God hated Esau and Loved Jacob even though both were SINNERS equally at birth?Yes. Just like Esau and as all of the unsaved are.
[Rom 9:11 KJV] 11 (For [the children] being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth
[Rom 9:13 KJV] 13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
[Psa 58:3 KJV] 3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.